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..:Hot:Like:Wow:.. 10th April 2007 10:20 AM

lol with the HK media and celebs especially now there media is doing it, this all just seems like another case in millions of Chinese jealousy towards Japan.

URANUS 10th April 2007 10:24 AM

I would say it's jealousy too. Let's compare the sales of both Ayu and Eason's recent album domestic CD sales.

Eason Chan - Get a Life - sold a total of around 40,000 copies
Ayu - SECRET - sold an astonishing 650,000 copies

And I checked Eason's rranking in Taiwan and none of his albums made the top 20. ROFL. On the other hand, Ayu's had topped the charts with all her albums.

4ever*ayu 10th April 2007 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by URANUS (Post 1064116)
^ These sort of news usually upset the singer. So Ayu's mood is definitely going to change a bit.

i think that comment would not affect ayu so much, because ayu is a profesional
singer, maybe she even doesn't know who the hell eason chan is. and ayu will ends her tour outside japan perfectly.
plus, ayu has us, ayufans who will always support her career.

but i'm still demanding that butthead-eason to apologize to ayu, and he MUST!!
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tinyppl 10th April 2007 10:27 AM

Reading eason's article initially and watching his video has a rather big difference. I realised in the video, he's alot more polite. The article made him out to be much more rude. Yes he stands on his opinion that he thinks ayu lipsynchs because of the massive dancing. But in a way he also tried to defend ayu that lipsyching is not a big problem even Michael Jackson (the King of Pop) does it.

If they are so sure that she lipsynched, all the more I want to the live video myself and judge by myself. That's if they are ever gonna release it or something.

And hmm, I don't think ayu will drop her future asia tours just because of this, she don't have to disappoint all her fans because of one eason guy. So don't worry about that =)

WillofDusk 10th April 2007 10:29 AM

Dude that's excluding her Taiwan and HK sales.
That's just her Japan sales.
Adding Taiwan and HK, it'd be much more dramatic. Eason has no chance to be against this queen.

Ayumiko 10th April 2007 10:33 AM

he only gave her 87 points...who is he to grade her? Are his concerts better in every way? can he even dance? and that goes to all the other artists who accused her.

Only those who seen her concerts and listens to her music would know how great she is. Her sound equipments are high end stuff and if you can get sound cancelling device in mp3 player headphones, its possible to have a good mic and sound equipments with well trained staff controlling them.

4ever*ayu 10th April 2007 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by URANUS (Post 1064124)
I would say it's jealousy too. Let's compare the sales of both Ayu and Eason's recent album domestic CD sales.

Eason Chan - Get a Life - sold a total of around 40,000 copies
Ayu - SECRET - sold an astonishing 650,000 copies

And I checked Eason's rranking in Taiwan and none of his albums made the top 20. ROFL. On the other hand, Ayu's had topped the charts with all her albums.

LOL, we can obviously see why japan is considered as the second biggest music industry, he is nothing compare to ayu and other japanese singer!

URANUS 10th April 2007 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by tinyppl (Post 1064127)
Reading eason's article initially and watching his video has a rather big difference. I realised in the video, he's alot more polite. The article made him out to be much more rude. Yes he stands on his opinion that he thinks ayu lipsynchs because of the massive dancing. But in a way he also tried to defend ayu that lipsyching is not a big problem even Michael Jackson (the King of Pop) does it.

If they are so sure that she lipsynched, all the more I want to the live video myself and judge by myself. That's if they are ever gonna release it or something.

And hmm, I don't think ayu will drop her future asia tours just because of this, she don't have to disappoint all her fans because of one eason guy. So don't worry about that =)

Even if he sounded polite, to say that he fell asleep during the concert and that he left in the middle of the concert is outrageous. As a singer himself, he should know very well that it was horrendously rude to fall asleep in a concert. Eason's comments about Ayu has reached almost every part of the chinese entertainment world. It's headline news. I know, it's crazy but the media is so quick to jump on news on Ayu. I wouldn't be surprised if some people who aren't familiar with Ayu are already calling her the lip-synch diva.

ayuflareup! 10th April 2007 10:36 AM

[NEWS]Eason V, AYU case continues (with scans)
 
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步姐fans聲討Eason嗌道歉


陳 奕 迅 ( Eason ) 前 日 公 開 質 疑 濱 崎 步 在 演 唱 會 中 有 三 分 一 時 間 咪 嘴 演 出 , 令 步 姐 的 fans 議 論 紛 紛 。 有 讀 者 電 郵 本 報 , 表 示 不 滿 Eason 言 論 過 火 , 指 摘 他 在 演 唱 會 睡 著 和 提 早 離 場 就 下 判 斷 步 姐 咪 嘴 , 要 求 他 公 開 道 歉 。 讀 者 yamogi 為 證 步 姐 沒 有 咪 嘴 , 更 表 示 : 「 AYU ( 濱 崎 步 ) 在 兩 首 不 一 樣 的 歌 中 , 都 有 一 段 忘 記 歌 詞 。 」


斥 訓 覺 無 禮

各 大 網 上 討 論 區 也 有 步 姐 fans 聲 討 Eason , 更 引 起 罵 戰 , 網 友 ayulove 稱 : 「 太 穩 定 又 唔 得 ? 太 穩 定 就 係 咪 嘴 ? 」 也 有 人 指 Eason 不 懂 何 謂 尊 重 , mabuchi 則 指 「 在 別 的 歌 手 的 concert 內 訓 覺 這 種 行 為 , 他 連 基 本 禮 貌 也 沒 有 。 」 不 過 , 有 網 友 指 Eason 有 自 由 表 達 意 見 , 籲 步 姐 的 fans 冷 靜 。


SUMMARY:

After the EASON V. Ayu case had started, 90% of the AYU HK fans were extremely unsatisified about EASON's act and they urge other fans not to support EASON's ALBUM anymore. What's more is that they demand Eason to offer an immediate apology for AYU else they will continue to denounce Eason.

All of these are TOP NEWS in HK's TOP 4 showbiz newspaper section!
(credits: Ayuflareup!)

Ayumiko 10th April 2007 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by URANUS (Post 1064124)
Eason Chan - Get a Life - sold a total of around 40,000 copies

Yes he really needs to get a life....lol

lip-synch diva
thats great...another name for anti-ayu fans to call.

URANUS 10th April 2007 10:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ayumiko (Post 1064139)
he only gave her 87 points...who is he to grade her? Are his concerts better in every way? can he even dance? and that goes to all the other artists who accused her.

Only those who seen her concerts and listens to her music would know how great she is. Her sound equipments are high end stuff and if you can get sound cancelling device in mp3 player headphones, its possible to have a good mic and sound equipments with well trained staff controlling them.

I'm chinese and I have watched HK awards and such and 99% of the songs that he performs are BALLADS. Boring ballads songs that sound the same might I add? I doubt he has any songs that requires dancing. Never seen him dance before and I don't think I want to.

LacusClyne 10th April 2007 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Ayumiko (Post 1064115)
Fans in HK are taking actions! They are not buying his records and they also demand eason to apologize to ayu in public. They also want avex to sue him.

Well since ayu left HK, hopefully the news will go away. Damn those reporters! they took pics of ayu showing her bra! She was wearing a low cut dress and they photographed her showing her bra and published it. Man....they are making chinese ppl look very bad!

OMG! must be those stupid paparazi again..why do they always like to take those sort of pictures? they had already pissed off their own hongkong artist...why must they do shame to themself......

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Originally Posted by URANUS (Post 1064141)
Even if he sounded polite, to say that he fell asleep during the concert and that he left in the middle of the concert is outrageous. As a singer himself, he should know very well that it was horrendously rude to fall asleep in a concert. Eason's comments about Ayu has reached almost every part of the chinese entertainment world. It's headline news. I know, it's crazy but the media is so quick to jump on news on Ayu. I wouldn't be surprised if some people who aren't familiar with Ayu are already calling her the lip-synch diva.

well, let's hope the next time during his concert, the people will be polite to sleep through it. :)
but i don't have to worry too much about people thinking ayu not singing live, i'll simply show them ayu's concert and let them see and HEAR ayu's breathless notes.
Even MY MUM who only see SOME clips of ayu, AND she can tell apart when she's singing live.

ic3hir0 10th April 2007 10:52 AM

HK media is so lame. making such small matters into big news.

miniayumi 10th April 2007 10:53 AM

Hmm, sorry to be a bumhole but, can we keep the insults to Eason and not Hong Kong and Chinese?

tinta_chan 10th April 2007 10:59 AM

not that to say! It really does not know what says! A life must be bought! :eviltongu

Ayumiko 10th April 2007 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by URANUS (Post 1064145)
I'm chinese and I have watched HK awards and such and 99% of the songs that he performs are BALLADS. Boring ballads songs that sound the same might I add? I doubt he has any songs that requires dancing. Never seen him dance before and I don't think I want to.

oh yes Im chinese too, born in HK. Ive seen him perform in music shows, award shows, and big events. I also seen some of his concert performances too. His songs are popular especially for ppl to sing at K. From all the songs I heard from him, I cant think of one that is not ballad...and when he sings, he doesnt do much other than sings.

If he starts dancing, hes gonna do more demage than just simply fall off the stage and hurt his testicles like he did last time. Wait a sec...is that why he fell? coz he was moving?

njanjayrp 10th April 2007 11:04 AM

LOL, I am just hoping this won't get to her much, as it's obvious he's a plain moron^^.And she isn't the only one who can dance and sing well (most of the time), I mean BoA doesn't lyp-sinc her performances in Japan, nor Ku does, and we all know that they can sing and dance at the same time without making mistakes, it's all about practice, and if anyone has watched BoA's Documentary, remember the part when she first came to Japan and was told that she has to dance and sing live in a TV show XD, what I am trying to say is that after 10 years, Ayu surely knows how to handle it.

ic3hir0 10th April 2007 11:12 AM

^yes i agree!!! all these requires training and after like 9 years of performing, ayu is a professional now. she has the stamina to sing and dance.

Jeanette 10th April 2007 11:12 AM

Well, we really shouldn't be so mean to this dude or the other artists. We really don't know if she did Lip-synced or not because most of us were not there. To some of those people it is just what they probable heard, but we really won't know till we see some TV footage.



I do know that Ayu has Lip-synced once before. It was for a live performance of SEASONS. I guess she was sick or something on this day. Lip-synching isn't a big deal really. A lot of singer do it. It helps a lot during fast/upbeat dance songs.

tinyppl 10th April 2007 11:18 AM

Okay for people who did not understand chinese, here's what eason said in the video ayu_fan929 posted.

"To me, lipsynching is actually part of a performance. But Hong Kong has this perception that if you lipsyc, it tends to portray that you can't sing. But seriously, even Michael Jackson does it. Yesterday, I saw this part. She was dancing vigorously yet the voice quality standard heard at that moment of time does not seem possible to reach. It applies to everyone else. No matter how great you're singing, when you're dancing, it's not possible that you can mantain such flawless voice quality. But I do not think it's a problem (or rather, a big deal) to me. I just thought, eh? Ayumi does it too."

I think this is more accurate than the article (reporters rephrased it) since it's directly translated from what he said in the video though I do not guarantee you my translation is that good, I tried to make it close to what he had mentioned in chinese and hope you understand what I translated.

About the sleeping part, the video ayu_desu posted is in cantonese which I do not understand. But she kindly translated that he dozed off at certain parts due to couple of sleepless nights, and that it's his own fault, not ayu's fault.

Initially, I was really mad at him >_< But now, I kinda don't think he meant it in a harsh and bashful manner but was just stating what he thinks (which might not be right). I guess I really wanna watch the live myself to convince and confirm myself that ayu did not lip-sych. =)


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