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AyuGAME 30th December 2011 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by SKYia (Post 2796311)
Somehow I think that Love Song wasn't meant to be CDL theme, I think she wanted to make it AT12 but having little time to prepare CDL she took the theme, mixed some songs with others, that would explain so little Love Songs songs.

Also, it's going to be 1st year anniversary for her, why Mannie isn't there with her? He's been facebooking about some other concert he's attending these days, I know they aren't typical marriage but it's their anniversary, I just hope he's not the reason for her lack of energy.

AyuGAME^ you should update your banner ;)

maybe..you are right...

LOL..i don't realise that it's said FIVE coming soon!...LOL

i will change it tomorrow...

aura~ 30th December 2011 04:20 PM

Yep... I also feel lucky my first attended show was RnRC 7days.... I never expect a lot from CDL as are often 'less' than the tours... Maybe we all were expecting a huge show as this was supposed to be a tour...??

I also don't understand why he took out 3 songs today and didn't replace them...

I'm watching the UStream tomorrow, I hope I'm not disappointed xD

chibishun 30th December 2011 04:36 PM

I was totally not satisfied with today's live.
1. She made us wait 30 mins and cut out 3 songs. I mean, it's not fair bcuz everyone pays the same for every shows, or more expensive, since CDL ticket is hard to get and ppl usually has to use auction/reseller for it.

2. Setlist seems randomly shuffled from list of her songs. No continuity, theme, etc. And the whole live seems very unenergetic and boring. I kept chatting with Lee_chan the whole live.

3. MC was really short. 3 mins max. She only said that tomorrow is her 13th appearance at Kohaku, and this is her 12th year performing at Yoyogi. Then she said she had a new song and started singing how beautiful you are.
It made this live sounds more like rehearsal than a real live.


And she needs to stop abusing tissue dances and clowns IMO. Those came out at almost every interlude -.-;

Mai82Go 30th December 2011 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Lee^ChaN (Post 2796263)

Overall, It was really a BIG disappointment!!
Feel like being deceived with lesser songs. She didn't really move and interact with the audience, not until Flower Garden. Tissue dancers & clowns.. do it agaaiin... agaiiin... and agaaiinn....
When MY ALL started to play, I was like "HUH?! It's over already?!"

Where did the AWESOMENESS of PoM go???? Seriously I wanna cry...

*end of story*

:no Oh, no. Ayu, Ayu...what happened to you?:(

YUKARI 30th December 2011 04:43 PM

yeaah, I'm glad my trip to Japan was cancelled. I'd die if ayu disappointed me lol.

it seems like she's just tired.. doing all those tours all year, 12 years CDL... may be she was invited to Best Artist and MSSL, but cancelled due to her tiredness? I feel like something's happened behind the scenes.

AyumiAi 30th December 2011 05:01 PM

this worries me :( If audiences are not pleased they could stop attending ayu's shows....

SunshineSlayer 30th December 2011 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by chibishun (Post 2796318)
3. MC was really short. 3 mins max. She only said that tomorrow is her 13th appearance at Kohaku, and this is her 12th year performing at Yoyogi. Then she said she had a new song and started singing how beautiful you are.
It made this live sounds more like rehearsal than a real live.

That is pretty much exactly what she said on the 30th as well.

ayumisrael 30th December 2011 05:41 PM

I just hope that the people who are not satisfied share it with ayu on twitter or Team ayu since she gotta know what people think in order to make things better.

freedreamer 30th December 2011 05:55 PM

^that would be one way. but KINDLY in a constructive manner lol

ayumisrael 30th December 2011 05:59 PM

Yes of course.

I don't mind sending her a TA message with people's thoughts if everything will be summerized nicely in one place/post :)

YUKARI 30th December 2011 06:12 PM

btw why there's no song from FIVE album?

Earth_maiden 30th December 2011 06:18 PM

I don't think its necessary to send Ayu any criticism at this point, they still have the final show to do tomorrow which will probably be better than today's show. Plus I personally just don't see the point, Ayu has always done what she wants to do, I don't think that will change if she gets a few tweets telling her (respectively) that her show wasn't up to scratch.

I can understand people being disappointed, especially those of you who paid to see her and have been left with a bitter taste. I don't know, I just wouldn't feel right telling Ayu that something she's worked on was unsatisfactory to me. But that's just me. :innocent

I actually prefer CDL concerts to Arena Tours, so hearing all the negative feedback is pretty depressing for me. :(

SURREAL__RAINBOW 30th December 2011 06:31 PM

Gonna say this but whatever lol She better get pregnant soon so she gets forced to take a break

indyplus 30th December 2011 06:33 PM

I'm so surprised to read all these negative comments... I attended both 29th and 30th and I loved the show. *.* I loved her voice, her costumes, the stage, the setlist... everything. I can't wait for the last concert. :)

I also don't think this was the show that was originally AT11. But I think some performances were included. Or maybe it is, who knows. But this was really a great CDL!!!

Oh, and Party queen and how beautiful you are are soooooo AMAZING!! :love

tokyoxjapanxfan 30th December 2011 06:41 PM

I can't believe she cut evolution and AUDIENCE yesterday...

alternarist 30th December 2011 07:11 PM

kinda shocked that she cut evolution. that will most probably be the first concert, without evolution! But u guys got what u want!! to axe evolution!

and i seriously think that this CDL was meant to be disappointing so that we will be pleasantly surprised by AT12! if AT12 is the same as CDL1112, then it will be the biggest disappointment ever.

AyuWorld 30th December 2011 07:12 PM

just bought my ticket! ^^ so going to avoid those comments and reviews until i watch it myself tomorrow xD

ayumisrael 30th December 2011 07:12 PM

Yeah I wonder how is it people aren't celebrating evolution's disappearance :laugh

Chibi-Chan 30th December 2011 07:42 PM

Ah! >_< I'll stop reading in this thread till I watched the show tomorrow, I'm spoiling myself. xD

Lady_Eowyn 30th December 2011 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Coelacanth (Post 2796106)
I've yet to see any concrete evidence that Ayu ever smoked. I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that most of the damage to her voice was done by using improper vocal technique throughout most of her career and also singing under conditions where her throat was already under enormous stress. I know she had bronchitis or something during CDL 02-03 - which I'm sure permanently messed up her voice. But even before that when she was promoting Voyage, her throat sounded like it was in poor shape, probably from general overwork/straining.


Well, yes there is. What you are talking about is a different matter. A bad vocal technique affects the vocal chords, not the lungs (or the breath capabilities, to be more precise)

Actually, i just saw my opera teacher today and asked how smoking affects your vocal capacity. She explained to me that the lung capacity is the same, but (this is a quote from wikipedia because she speaks to me in spanish):

"Narrowing of the airways (caused by constant smoking) reduces the rate at which air can flow to and from the air sacs (alveoli) and limits the effectiveness of the lungs" and ergo your lung capacity is decreased, which is what i meant before when i mentioned i felt her lung capacity is short.

Also, my teacher said that smoking indeed deepens (is that correct? otherwise , i mean it makes deeper) voices, she told me she knows a lot of people (singers) whose voices have changed because of this habit. I mean, that's a common consequence from smoking.

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Originally Posted by Earth_maiden (Post 2796346)

I can understand people being disappointed, especially those of you who paid to see her and have been left with a bitter taste. I don't know, I just wouldn't feel right telling Ayu that something she's worked on was unsatisfactory to me. But that's just me. :innocent

That's the point. From what i've heard, she hasn't worked enough and thus this is the result, a very poor performance and a show that is set just to get out of the way. If it was my money i would complain.

I don't wanna sound mean, but I truly believe there is something really bad happening backwards. Either personally or due to a health issue. Whatever it is, i hope she'll be able to solve that problem because whatever is going on is affecting her performance.


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