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Yumsushi 14th November 2012 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by TeamAyu2004 (Post 2931981)
Interesting... but i would like to point out that groupies and entourage are 2 separate things.


Further down Sunshineslayer clarifies that the intended meaning is entourage. As for the voice issue, I always took it as in regards to her vocal ability which had deteriorated for quite a while before she went deaf. (of course it worsened afterwards)

TeamAyu2004 14th November 2012 10:19 PM

I see it's a translation issue.
and for the voice, don't know what to say...
singing ability is subjective so. But I guess in the long run both are subjective and can be taken either way.

I always wondered why she cut back on CM's and what not..
you think companies would of been more werry of her at her peak because she was so HUGE... not after the well decent that she went through up to 2010.

either that, or they think she is not worth all the trouble for what little she brings in.

tetsuo69 14th November 2012 10:26 PM

if this is real i can only wish her luck and happiness but since mannie she been kinda trolling everyone so i really don't know what to think, in the end its non of our bizz but it does feel fake for the simple reason that shes using him on her pv's like with mannie and yet expect any privacy.

Andrenekoi 14th November 2012 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Yumsushi (Post 2931966)
I thought we were talking about fans' opinions and popularity, not desirability as a spokesperson for a brand. Those two aren't exactly the same thing. Anyhow I remember a corporate survey about popstars favourability as a spokesperson stated the reason many companies not desiring Ayumi as a spokesperson was the size of her entourage not her deafness.

And not being able to back up any of arguments isn't very clever either lol

Guess who brands try to reach when they pick up a spokesperson? It's not the CEOs of the company ;)

And her not being desirable as a spokesperson had something to do with her deafness on the 2008/2009 poll around this subject.


edit: I confused Ayu with the woman they didn't want as a spokesperson because she had cancer... (even more cruel IMO).

And nice to know not being able to back up any of arguments isn't very clever either, considering you are failing at backing up yours besides this one :P

JackieRos 14th November 2012 10:48 PM

idk why alot of people are shocked.

Gustavopc 14th November 2012 10:50 PM

^ I know *looks at the url* *sighs*

Yumsushi 14th November 2012 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Andrenekoi (Post 2931992)
Guess who brands try to reach when they pick up a spokesperson? It's not the CEOs of the company ;)

Yes I agree but it's not an all or none situation all the time as you make it out to be. Because if that was the cae Ayumi would have no endorsements what so ever. Also, how did Iconiq get about those big endorsements before even officially debuting?

I guess we're in agreement that your posts aren't clever if they have to resort to belittling others.

happiholic★ 14th November 2012 10:59 PM

Hurray! So happy for Ayu.

Now, what I really want is a grand, supreme wedding! Didn't get one with Mannie, didn't get one when Kuu married her younger man. I want A Wedding! And cute babies!!

Leaf King 14th November 2012 11:05 PM

I hope they're happy together. That's all that matters to me as a fan.

mizuki-7 14th November 2012 11:14 PM

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I want A Wedding! And cute babies!!
yes it would be so cool and wish for them happiness even if people think it's a fake relation or other things who care it's her life !

happiholic★ 14th November 2012 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by mizuki-7 (Post 2932021)
yes it would be so cool and wish for them happiness even if people think it's a fake relation or other things who care it's her life !

But, it has to be in the exact order of wedding, then babies. Otherwise, it would just get branded a shotgun wedding, like Kuu's.

mizuki-7 14th November 2012 11:26 PM

^
lol I'd like to see Ayu-mama :D

MiiSan 14th November 2012 11:30 PM

I'm happy for them ^_^

I just hope it turns out better than her relationships with Tomoya or Mannie.

Deibel 14th November 2012 11:38 PM

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Originally Posted by OyTony (Post 2931982)
The magazine with the article?
http://p.twipple.jp/Wc4vz

http://p.twpl.jp/show/orig/Wc4vz

Couldn't miss the halloween pic xD (neither a mannie pic)

But what does it sayyyyy?! I want to know T___T

Andrenekoi 14th November 2012 11:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Yumsushi (Post 2931997)
Yes I agree but it's not an all or none situation all the time as you make it out to be. Because if that was the cae Ayumi would have no endorsements what so ever. Also, how did Iconiq get about those big endorsements before even officially debuting?

I guess we're in agreement that your posts aren't clever if they have to resort to belittling others.

You are the one taking it as a "all or none" situation, I just said those actions ruin your image to japanese public, and it does. Does it mean nobody in the world will ever buy her music and she won't be able to get tie-ins? Nops, considering even really flopped acts like Alan or Shimatani can sell some singles, some albums and have some tie-ins, as did Namie during her worst.

There's no such thing as "any promotion is good promotion" to japanese market, and if Ayu wasn't a really big act to begin with, she would be at the very bottom of the music industry right now, not different from what almost happened to L'arc~en~Ciel during the drug scandal, or to Ai Kago and Mari being fired from Morning Musume for smoking being underage and dating someone.

There's just no other way to put it: Anyone who believes Ayu is trying to promote herself by doing everything known to end someones career in Japan is not being very clever... Or Ayu is completely stupid by repeating the same mistake at least once a year for sometime now.

Yumsushi 14th November 2012 11:50 PM

I rest my case, lol~

saigodansu 14th November 2012 11:52 PM

Ayu is completely stupid by repeating the same mistake at least once a year for sometime now.

As is her team of managers for having her do these things.

TeamAyu2004 14th November 2012 11:55 PM

Im glad your so sure that everything she has ever done for her personal life is fake...

thats just no way to live really...
And I think her lyrics beg to differ that she does live her life to the fullest and she has control over most of the things that happen to her.

there is a reason why she wanted to announce the relationship before the press did after all.

owlflight 14th November 2012 11:58 PM

As long as Ayu is happy then I'm happy.

NintendoHTF1242 14th November 2012 11:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Delicious n Bold (Post 2931611)
*waits for saigodansu to come in with moar Lezbian Ayu 'proof' in order to shut this 'rumour' down*

'Ayu be datin' Natsuki yo'

This made me laugh really hard and I don't know why


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