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erika_ayu 23rd May 2009 06:41 AM

0.0 all this fuss just because of that!!!
no sweat for ayu as long as she doesnt go into jail

Andrenekoi 23rd May 2009 06:45 AM

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Originally Posted by waterballoon (Post 1953232)
Agreed, and agreed. It just seems like the media wants to blow things way out of proportion just because it's Ayu and she's controversial.

The thing I feel the saddest and am the most pissed off at is that... she's not suddenly appearing on the streets singing Sparkle with dry ice and a platform or something...

She's appearing at an event like a really normal person, baring bodyguards, fans and cameras aside. I mean she's just attending an event... waving hands, and walking around the streets, visiting the record stores.

It's like, she's not really doing her 'singer' job at all. She's just being ayumi hamasaki.

And that her being a human doing somewhat-human things and getting blamed and getting into legal problems just because of that makes me feel really sad for Ayu... she doesn't deserve something like this imo. It's just a fan service. Sigh.

I wouldn't be surprised if it was a calculated act... IMO she wanted to be near her fans (she is doing this for a while now, isn't she?) and doing some noise...

Chef+Vanny 23rd May 2009 06:49 AM

whatever may happens i hope its not jail sentence....
all the best ayu
she's really naughty :o

maikaru 23rd May 2009 07:06 AM

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Originally Posted by ArchangelLegend (Post 1953176)
What?! The investigation was an unintended consequence of her actions and Ayu should know better. Yet even after this, she cutely continues acting she can do whatever she wants regardless of what law that can possibly be broken. I would have prefered her to apologize and learn from her actions and simply pay the fine. She should have known that there can very possibly and probably be "chaos" on the streets. Overall, I still don't see this as a big deal.

Regardless, this is just plain stupid news. It's just about some road traffic law, and it gets violated everyday anyway. It's only on the media because it's Ayu, so people will be interested in it. There are probably more serious news out there in Japan that could have been covered, but knowing the audiences' interests, they might as well cover Ayu's petty traffic fine that I might be able to pay off.

Anyway I always wanted to say this that's not out of randomness - Ayu you naughty naughty girl!!! :D

Her sentence is translated in english a bit rudely, but I agree with her 100%.
I do not buy some crap other people are saying in this thread about being famous, etc.
Tell me again when it became illegal to walk into stores?
Tell me again when it became illegal to walk the streets?
Regardless who you are, you have the same rights as anyone else, and it cannot be taken away.

Just because she is a famous celebrity, doesn't mean she must mind her own business, and live in a prison.
Let's impose the same limits upon the people who say that because she is a famous person she must go through this, and see how long you could survive.
How about lets fine you guys for walking through the streets of your own city.

I dont think she should apologize at all for what happened.
I wouldnt want to have the same restrictions on myself, so I dont wish for her to apologize for her freedom.
I would rather her popularity drop thousands of points than apologize for exercising her right to freedom.

ImpactBreaker 23rd May 2009 07:15 AM

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Originally Posted by maikaru (Post 1953280)

How about lets fine you guys for walking through the streets of your own city.

I'm not a famous star that draws crowds of peoples, so this comparison makes no sense to me. However, if i gather together a lot of people and make a riot that blocks the streets with no further permission, I'll actually be recived with smoke bombs and some hard beating from the police. People keep on comparing how would it feel to be on ayu shoes...We aren't celebrities like she is. That's the one and huge difference about it. If you think celebrities get the same treatment and have lives exactly as regular people in this world, maybe it's time for a reality check to really know there's a real life out there, instead of only reading artists pre-produced blogs and thinking life revolves around those.


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Originally Posted by maikaru (Post 1953280)

I wouldnt want to have the same restrictions on myself, so I dont wish for her to apologize for her freedom.

You aren't a celebrity :shrug And the concept of "freedom" is relative. ayu doesn't have the right for having the freedom of taking people's right of passing/driving through the streets like making a crazy appearance causing twisted fans to block the traffic.

jon_the_d 23rd May 2009 07:27 AM

I'm not sure what it's like in your country, but most developed, democratic countries allow freedom of movement. This means you can go wherever you want, whenever you want.

She's still a person, an individual, she is not property of the state and is governed by the same laws and rights as any other individual. If she wants to go to a shop, she does not need to ask permission or get government approval. Are you suggesting she's not allowed to go out IN PUBLIC without approval? that's house arrest, and is so far against human rights it's ridiculous.

The event is one thing, if they didn't seek permission. But as to her being able to freely go where she pleases, they have no right to try to stop her.

If Japan does have some laws to restrict an individual's basic human rights just because they're famous, then I'm sorry but that's just wrong.

ImpactBreaker 23rd May 2009 07:32 AM

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Originally Posted by jon_the_d (Post 1953296)
I'm not sure what it's like in your country, but most developed, democratic countries allow freedom of movement. This means you can go wherever you want, whenever you want.


Really? so you mean I can enter every bank's safe room whenever I want? And in such countries I can also break into anybody's house whenever and wherever I want? :eek I'm really curious to get to know these countries. :yes

emi♡ 23rd May 2009 07:34 AM

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Originally Posted by ImpactBreaker (Post 1953284)
You aren't a celebrity :shrug And the concept of "freedom" is relative. ayu doesn't have the right for having the freedom of taking people's right of passing/driving through the streets like making a crazy appearance causing twisted fans to block the traffic.

Exactly. Which she knows and has always understood.

Which makes it most likely that she had her staff check for her first before she went anywhere.

Which means that it's their fault for telling her she had the okay, and now her being in trouble for it.

Of course she recognizes these charges as totally ridiculous...and so I'm hoping perhaps she won't fire anyone...but like I've said...I highly doubt it.


None of the rest of the details even matter because when it comes down to it, Ayu does in fact need permission to go places, which is in the hands of her staff. She asks them "can we do it" they check and say yes or no.

She doesn't know any different. What she does has always been in other peoples hands...now how she acts about it, is another thing...we don't know if she's difficult, or makes a fuss...or if she's passive...or what...

So I mean...if they said no, and she gave them a hard time and stormed out or something marching to the stores...I mean, that's different...then it is on her.

jbrat2219 23rd May 2009 07:36 AM

Yeah she clearly said she thought everything was in order, so can they really blame her for it?

Andrenekoi 23rd May 2009 07:38 AM

Impact Breaker
You who lives in Brazil knows how easy is to meet with A LOT of celebrities living on some places (mainly Rio and Sampa, but you can meet some on Minas and Bahia too)

Hikki is used to keep doing her everyday things in Japan, she is aways comenting this kind of stuff on her blog

I believe that Ayu's act was kind of calculated but that she didn't have any idea of the numer of fans there. Still, I don't think she needs to apologize for taking a walk... she is a normal person (actually, celebrities ARE normal people) and seens to be more and more interested in enjoying the non-celebrite side of her life these days...

She was totally right? Not really, but it's not that serious... if someone really got THAT hurt, this would not take so long to have such a big fuss over this

ArchangelLegend 23rd May 2009 07:59 AM

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Originally Posted by maikaru (Post 1953280)
Regardless who you are, you have the same rights as anyone else, and it cannot be taken away.

This is not about equal rights. This is about her and the effects of what can happen when a popular celebrity starts bringing a lot of attention to herself on the public streets. Any celebrity should have the responsibility to notify what they intend to do so others can prepare especially if there's going to be road blocks. That way the police, medical personal, or firemen can plan accordingly in case of an emergency. This is a smart thing, Ayu will look very bad if someone didn't get to the hospital on time because she wanted to promote her book.

People may have the same rights, but everyone has different responsibilties. Ayu should know better. Most people don't have that responsibilty so they can freely walk whereever they want. Ayu cannot or should not, so I strongly disagree with what she said. I encourage everyone else to disagree with her statement because it's healthy, that shows we are concern for her public image, but more importantly, the safety of others.

truehappiness 23rd May 2009 08:01 AM

I think the 'quote' of what she said is being taken a little too seriously. Christ, peoplez.

emi♡ 23rd May 2009 08:04 AM

^Probably because it's seriously funny :laugh

pUrpLeSn0w 23rd May 2009 08:05 AM

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Originally Posted by ImpactBreaker (Post 1951804)
She wasn't "just walking". :rolleyes She was promoting herself and her product. The police is just doing their job:yes ayu isn't really naive, she knows she's a star and that she might drive the public wild. Her excuse isn't really justifiable as she wasn't just "passing by" like a regular person.

i hate to say this but i kinda agree with you..
i mean..she's isn't a artiste newbie.... D':

let's hope nothing gets out of hand.. :no

asmAyumi1992 23rd May 2009 09:52 AM

Wooh?! What a weird situation. It's okay Ayu, this is not your fault.

tinka69 23rd May 2009 10:52 AM

That is incredibly dehumanizing. She shouldn't have to get permission to walk on the street. Sure she obtained the location illegally and the crowd was terrible but I would blame avex for that not Ayu personally (in which they tend to make out in these articles).

Aditmi Krisnasaki 23rd May 2009 11:36 AM

The Police's suck...

Aditmi Krisnasaki 23rd May 2009 11:39 AM

The Police's suck...
I don't know if Japan is that strict...
But, I think it's ayu's fault too...I watch the video, and there's a stage to promote her photobook and NEXT LEVEL, so i think she must have the permission to do this...

I hope she won't be jailed...
Ayu, you're so naughty...Hahaha

LacusClyne 23rd May 2009 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by truehappiness (Post 1953128)
The thing is that I think she was doing the walking around BEFORE the event started, so the crowd hadn't been formed yet..

that's what i thought too, didn't she walk into those music stores BEFORE the event???? or had the crowd already been form during that short period?

ayumisrael 23rd May 2009 12:15 PM

"Also, shortly before the book lanch event, Hamasaki visited TSUTAYA, HMV, Tower Records and other large CD stores in the area. In a surprise of this event, crazy energized fans were going to chase Hamasaki from shop to shop, which led to wild conditions in the streets."

She went to the stores BEFORE the event, she didn't know or estimate the number of people that were there most likely. I still don't think that anything of it is her fault.


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