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*hearT_Place* 27th December 2014 04:01 AM

Her voice was nowhere near perfect (especially in M. She was flat a lot towards the end), but this was the best live performance I think I've seen from her in a while. And the last line of Last Minute was SUBLIME! I've always thought that Ayu has difficulty with vocal control - especially when it comes to using proper dynamics. There have been so many times she's sung a line loud and expressionless when it needed to be soft and emotional (*cough*last line of I AM...*cough*), but she did such a great job with the dynamics in Last Minute.

adantatu2 27th December 2014 06:02 AM

Any good quality rip, please ?

ava_dreams 27th December 2014 07:38 AM

Woah, the vocals are way better than expected. She lost them for about 20s during M but picked them up quite well. The dress was nice, i don't care if she wears the same thing a lot, as long as it looks stunning.

ayu_ready? 27th December 2014 12:38 PM

I loved her hair and dress. not her vocal

My Rainbow 27th December 2014 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by UHPlus (Post 3111299)
Reminder to ayumi, you're 36, not 16 :yes :yes :yes :rolleyes

ageist comment :no

jiarongisme 27th December 2014 01:28 PM

Just realised she isn't using her own microphone this time.

Tom Punks 27th December 2014 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by My Rainbow (Post 3111365)
ageist comment :no

Plz take yourself back to Tumblr thanks

Toniayu123 27th December 2014 06:16 PM

I just watched the live and she is so awesome this year!! Her voice has improved a lot since last year :yes Last Minute sounds slightly better than M but it is understandable since it is a song made for her current vocals. Too bad it was so short :(

Brownchild 27th December 2014 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Tom Punks (Post 3111386)
Plz take yourself back to Tumblr thanks

It's 2014 people... Hasn't Aaliyah already taught you that age ain't nothing but a number?

End1ess_sorr0w 27th December 2014 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Zeke. (Post 3111220)
Wow, I'm so surprised at the comments! I just watched on facebook and ten came here to comment. The whole time I'm thinking "wow, her voice has REALLY improved. It's soooo good!" The shouting in Last minute wasn't the greatest but the rest was fantastic. Better than recording. M I felt was supreme. Her voice was at least authentic but not harsh. We haven't heard this authenticity from her live in AGES considering they always over process it (as in A BEST LIVE). It was wonderful.

I agree I actually loved her vocals for M she nailed the vibrato in the beginning. I don't even like Last minute but she got those vocals down to the tee. too bad she didnt perform a lot of the song. It says a lot when you dedicate more time to an older winter ballad than the new one you just released. Nothing beats a classic. She knows.:yes

LEOyumi 27th December 2014 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Brownchild (Post 3111412)
It's 2014 people... Hasn't Aaliyah already taught you that age ain't nothing but a number?

Yeah, I agree...
I have no idea why people say things like "please act your age!", when age is just a number, what matters is how you actually feel.

hidekirby 28th December 2014 12:01 AM

Wow her vocals are indeed quite impressive!
Very few off parts, clear and gentle voice when needed, no more shouting...

She didn't seem to struggle with her voice as she used to do, even if it still requires all her attention. She doesn't seem to really feel the performance because of that, it's visually less intertaining, but I'm very glad she is still taking the voice issue seriously.

tsumekaze_ 28th December 2014 09:29 PM

I'm genuinely curious about something though...
Isn't she able to sing songs like "M" in the original pitch anymore? Is it because of the ear loss thing?
for example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mxMRwemx5WQ << this performance of M sounds like an entirely different person singing it.
I don't mind her changing the octave and singing it lower, but I'm curious because her voice has really become something different entirely.

Ayusan 28th December 2014 10:49 PM

^Because of ear loss? I don't think so. Just because her voice evolve and changed for this more natural lower tone. Let's keep in mind that at her beginning she didn't sung 'naturally', high pitch was required for the market. And now, when she tries to sing like in the old good days where she 'could pierce ears or break glass', keep in mind she is forcing her voice!

tsumekaze_ 28th December 2014 10:52 PM

^ I have to disagree in the sense that even though it is said that her high pitch was forced she still looked like she had to put less effort singing back then. She looks more natural and spontaneous than she does now with her supposed "natural" voice. Idk but it seems strange.

Pieces_of_SEVEN 28th December 2014 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by UHPlus (Post 3111299)
Reminder to ayumi, you're 36, not 16 :yes :yes :yes :rolleyes

Fuck your age appropriation lol

hidekirby 28th December 2014 11:44 PM

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Originally Posted by tsumekaze_ (Post 3111569)
I'm genuinely curious about something though...
Isn't she able to sing songs like "M" in the original pitch anymore? Is it because of the ear loss thing?
for example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mxMRwemx5WQ << this performance of M sounds like an entirely different person singing it.
I don't mind her changing the octave and singing it lower, but I'm curious because her voice has really become something different entirely.

God, I miss that voice... :'(
I read several times on this forum that it was due to her vocal technique which changed for something less tiring for her voice, something better, more natural.
Of course her voice is also aging.

But, I really do miss those times...

stepYOU1234 28th December 2014 11:49 PM

I think when she sang when she was younger it was what came naturally, but not what was maybe the best technique or way to use her voice. I thought this was a very vocally sound performance and I'm glad she has made the effort to improve her voice. I'm looking forward to her CDL vocals now

tsumekaze_ 29th December 2014 12:15 AM

^ well in fact the thing about changing technique might be true now that you mention the "less tiring" thing. I remember that she ended up almost with no voice after half of the concert in those earlier shows. Maybe it worked as "more natural" in the short run because as you said it was what came to her naturally but when it came to the long run she had to change her technique. Im sure that the ear loss had something to do with her voice changing so much though, people do change voice when they age but not this dramatically, don't they?

primavera♥ 29th December 2014 12:52 AM

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Originally Posted by tsumekaze_ (Post 3111576)
^ I have to disagree in the sense that even though it is said that her high pitch was forced she still looked like she had to put less effort singing back then. She looks more natural and spontaneous than she does now with her supposed "natural" voice. Idk but it seems strange.

She most likely damaged her voice with improper technique over time and however she was taking (or rather not taking care of ) it. You can sing, play instruments, etc comfortably with it being wrong at the same time. Honestly ayu has never been some beautiful technical singer but it was her signature voice with emotion and she rocked it so I think that's the appeal of her old high voice. I don't really care. I love her current range a lot actually. I thought about that while I was listening to Walk. Her voice sounds so nice. It's interesting how it keeps changing over time though.


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