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Aditmi Krisnasaki ~II~ 11th February 2010 12:12 PM

I think Ayu just try to rip of Lady GaGa's "Telephone" and Beyonce's "Video Phone". Such a similar "communication item" titles. :D

Keiichi_JPU 11th February 2010 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Aditmi Krisnasaki ~II~ (Post 2240291)
I think Ayu just try to rip of Lady GaGa's "Telephone" and Beyonce's "Video Phone". Such a similar "communication item" titles. :D

I really don't think so. A Microphone is nothing like a phone, it doesn't even look like it.

Lady Gaga: She gets annoyed from being called all the time when she's going out.
Beyoncé: Wants to star in amateur pr0n filmed on her videophone.

A Microphone is the other way around, it's used to get a message out there. To let everyone hear what you have to say. Of course I can't know for sure yet, but I'm sure Ayu's song will bear a message like that.

And besides, the Microphone preview sounds more like weird rock, especially with the kiss o' kill sound going on at the end. Whereas Videophone is sexy R&B and Telephone is pure pop.

Ayu's not ripping of anyone IMHO.

Maxker 11th February 2010 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Aditmi Krisnasaki ~II~ (Post 2240291)
I think Ayu just try to rip of Lady GaGa's "Telephone" and Beyonce's "Video Phone". Such a similar "communication item" titles. :D

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Originally Posted by Keiichi_JPU (Post 2240308)
I really don't think so. A Microphone is nothing like a phone, it doesn't even look like it.

Lady Gaga: She gets annoyed from being called all the time when she's going out.
Beyoncé: Wants to star in amateur pr0n filmed on her videophone.

A Microphone is the other way around, it's used to get a message out there. To let everyone hear what you have to say. Of course I can't know for sure yet, but I'm sure Ayu's song will bear a message like that.

And besides, the Microphone preview sounds more like weird rock, especially with the kiss o' kill sound going on at the end. Whereas Videophone is sexy R&B and Telephone is pure pop.

Ayu's not ripping of anyone IMHO.

I think it was meant as irony.

Haha, it's amusing how seriously some people take things in here xD

Anyway, I really hope she will perform several songs live this year, including Microphone, and not just only focus on a single song (JEWEL, Together When, Days) It's getting a bit annoying that Ayu in a way is "hiding" away good songs from the promotion. :/

freedreamer 11th February 2010 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by GRACE (Post 2239853)
here's my album schedule prediction :yes~!

This week or the beginning of next week we'll get an announcement and album title.
The end of first week of March, we will get the covers and tracklist
The week before release we'll get a PV

The release will either be March 24th or 31st, at the latest April 7th :D

We have less then two months when you think about it, so exciting <3

I would really think it'll go that way. That's very...safe and predictable..AND I hope Avex plays it that way. I see us getting an announcement for sure. Does the title usually come together?

Im hoping TeamAyu is hard at work digging out stuff hahaha. I remember GUILTY's tracklist being uncovered from them first.

Pieces_of_SEVEN 11th February 2010 02:42 PM

Why do so many people think that RED LINE (or, God, even Sunset) will be on the album?

I'll admit that Sunset has a chance, but RED LINE?

Ayumi_lover 11th February 2010 02:49 PM

^^ RED LINE will be there almost for sure, and don't tell me that it won't be there because you don't like that song. As long as it had instrumental on the single, it will be on the album. Like that was with Will(which was on HEAVEN)

Keiichi_JPU 11th February 2010 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Maxker (Post 2240328)
I think it was meant as irony.

Haha, it's amusing how seriously some people take things in here xD

Well.. you can never be sure right, cause it's just text on a forum.. You never know what someone means :)

Well sorry then, I was just trying to explain it (also I read it a couple of times in this thread already).

GRACE 11th February 2010 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by tinka69 (Post 2240088)
even if it isn't completed yet they'll still have a deadline and i'm predicting she'll release another single before announcing the new album.

When? There's no time to announce and release a new single and then release an album. The album has to be out in less then two months because the tour starts in less then two months. Plus, the last time she had more then two singles before an album was 2005.

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Originally Posted by Pieces_of_SEVEN (Post 2240364)
Why do so many people think that RED LINE (or, God, even Sunset) will be on the album?

I'll admit that Sunset has a chance, but RED LINE?

Sunset is going to be on it because she said at one point she couldn't imagine one without the other. RED LINE is essentially 2010's MY ALL, so I can't imagine the album will be without it.

Picaflor 7/4 11th February 2010 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Ayumi_lover (Post 2240366)
^^ RED LINE will be there almost for sure, and don't tell me that it won't be there because you don't like that song. As long as it had instrumental on the single, it will be on the album. Like that was with Will(which was on HEAVEN)

just because a song has an instrumental doesn't mean it's going to be on an album. mirrorcle world, life, love ~since 1999~, love ~destiny~, A Song Is Born all have instrumentals and are on singles but aren't on any of her albums even if it doesn't have an instrumental, being on a single doesn't automatically mean it will be given a spot on an album. ever free wasn't on an album, nor was two of us, theme of a nation 03, or teens. and at the same time kanariya is on an album but there is no instrumental for it on the single, and daybreak is a single but only the remix of it. and who... is on an album and has an official instrumental, but it's not a single.

And what if it ends up not being on the album in the end? will it be a mistake or something? Whether we all love it, or all hate it, having an instrumental does not give it an automatic slot on the tracklist on an album. The fact that Red Line is a b-side also gives it one more reason why it probably won't be on an album.

Also I prefer sunset over sunrise, but even if it has an instrumental and I wish for it to be on an album way more than sunrise (which I'd prefer if neither was on the next album), I have no influence whatsoever on what will and won't be on the next album.
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actually, just read the post below mine, it sums it up in less than half of what I wrote.

noidea 11th February 2010 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Ayumi_lover (Post 2240366)
^^ RED LINE will be there almost for sure, and don't tell me that it won't be there because you don't like that song. As long as it had instrumental on the single, it will be on the album. Like that was with Will(which was on HEAVEN)

I think the chance for RED LINE to be on the album is slim, maybe 10%(or as bonus/hidden track) While Sunrise and Sunset were A-Sides(used to promote the single) RED LINE was a B-Side(not used to promote it). B-Sides usually are not included in any longplay release unless it's a Best-of or a compilation.

Ayumi_lover 11th February 2010 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Picaflor 7/4 (Post 2240421)
just because a song has an instrumental doesn't mean it's going to be on an album. mirrorcle world, life, love ~since 1999~, love ~destiny~, A Song Is Born all have instrumentals and are on singles but aren't on any of her albums even if it doesn't have an instrumental, being on a single doesn't automatically mean it will be given a spot on an album. ever free wasn't on an album, nor was two of us, theme of a nation 03, or teens. and at the same time kanariya is on an album but there is no instrumental for it on the single, and daybreak is a single but only the remix of it. and who... is on an album and has an official instrumental, but it's not a single.

And what if it ends up not being on the album in the end? will it be a mistake or something? Whether we all love it, or all hate it, having an instrumental does not give it an automatic slot on the tracklist on an album. The fact that Red Line is a b-side also gives it one more reason why it probably won't be on an album.

Also I prefer sunset over sunrise, but even if it has an instrumental and I wish for it to be on an album way more than sunrise (which I'd prefer if neither was on the next album), I have no influence whatsoever on what will and won't be on the next album.
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actually, just read the post below mine, it sums it up in less than half of what I wrote.

So mirrorcle world, life doesn't count because it was anniversary single which wasn't at any album(or you can count it as cut-out single but it doesn't belong to NEXT LEVEL album, so... and life doesn't fit A COMPLETE pattern)
Also what about love ~since 1999~, love ~destiny~ - it was included in the album but the other version of it - Love ~Refrain~, maybe she will do some other version of Sun-something-
A Song Is Born is present on I am album, so...
Kanariya and Daybreak was cut-out singles(released after album release)
technically who... doesn't have official instrumental, it was never released on cd, but it was only ripped from concert dvd by fans
ever free, theme of a-nation '03 and teens doesn't have instrumentals on their singles. As for me presence of instrumental version is the definite sign of that it will be included in album.
Songs without instrumental weren't included in the albums in the past
and songs with the instrumantal were
So that's what I think, and I explained songs you've mentioned.

Picaflor 7/4 11th February 2010 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Ayumi_lover (Post 2240454)
So mirrorcle world, life doesn't count because it was anniversary single which wasn't at any album(or you can count it as cut-out single but it doesn't belong to NEXT LEVEL album, so... and life doesn't fit A COMPLETE pattern)
Also what about love ~since 1999~, love ~destiny~ - it was included in the album but the other version of it - Love ~Refrain~, maybe she will do some other version of Sun-something-
A Song Is Born is present on I am album, so...
Kanariya and Daybreak was cut-out singles(released after album release)
technically who... doesn't have official instrumental, it was never released on cd, but it was only ripped from concert dvd by fans
ever free, theme of a-nation '03 and teens doesn't have instrumentals on their singles. As for me presence of instrumental version is the definite sign of that it will be included in album.
Songs without instrumental weren't included in the albums in the past
and songs with the instrumantal were
So that's what I think, and I explained songs you've mentioned.

Who has an instrumental melo. Which is basically the exact same thing as its original instrumental but it was on a remix album. none the less though, it has 2 official instrumentals and isn't a single. same thing with ever free. ayumix 2. released a bunch of instrumental melos. which are the instrumentals to some of the songs on the album, but not all those songs are on the album or singles. Key is another example, not on a single but has an inst. melo version of it. orchestrated or not. it is an instrumental version of key.

A Song Is Born. is not on any album. a song is born, however, is.
love since 1999/destiny are not the same as refrain, that's like saying sunset/sunrise are the same song.
recut singles are exactly the same as standard singles. They're just after an album. so the fact that kanariya has no official released instrumental proves my point further.

And what about the mirrorcle world single? how is the tenth anniversary any different? Being an artist, if she wanted, she could have put them on next level but chose not to.

Ayumi_lover 11th February 2010 04:28 PM

^^kanariya was even hidden track, and not at all promoted single(no CMs, almost no promotion, then if you will count noideas point that's not a-side single at all)
and instrumental melo of who on remix album is actually instrumental of an acoustic version, that's not the instrumental of original track so that doesn't count, or you will count all orgel versions?
a song is born is just playing with letters
and about love refrain and love destiny then I would say this single doesn't belong to any album as a whole. And not like 1 song from it belong to an album and the second is not

noidea 11th February 2010 04:38 PM

^ you don't understand what promotion means. If it has a PV or was played on the radio even if only once it's promoting the single, so it's an a-side, however, RED LINE wasn't used to promote the single, the two first tracks were

Ayumi_lover 11th February 2010 04:41 PM

are you sure it wasn't played on radio?
hey, let's really wait and see if that will be on album or not^^
I just bet that it will be coz it fits my pattern

ps. What about will? is that a-side also?

Picaflor 7/4 11th February 2010 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Ayumi_lover (Post 2240460)
^^kanariya was even hidden track, and not at all promoted single(no CMs, almost no promotion, then if you will count noideas point that's not a-side single at all)
and instrumental melo of who on remix album is actually instrumental of an acoustic version, that's not the instrumental of original track so that doesn't count, or you will count all orgel versions?
a song is born is just playing with letters
and about love refrain and love destiny then I would say this single doesn't belong to any album as a whole. And not like 1 song from it belong to an album and the second is not

A Song is born is the 12th track of her I am... album which is a solo version of ayumi. a song is born is only ever seen on the "a song is born" single which is ayu feat. keiko for song+nation.

And the original thing you said is that if a song has an instrumental on a single, it is guaranteed to be on the album. Which means both Love ~since 1999~ and Love ~refrain~ should be on the LOVEppears album, but they are not. Instead is Love ~refrain~ which as I have said before is not the same as the two songs I have mentioned. That single is not recut, it is not something special for an anniversary or anything. There is no excuse such as "it doesnt have the same feel as the album" that is ludicrous.

And to top it off. If what you said is true about every song that is on a single that has an instrumental is definitely on an album. then the counter statement should also be true. Every song that is on an album that is a single has an instrumental. However, it is not true since kanariya has no instrumental nor does Daybreak and they are both singles. (Daybreak is not the same as Daybreak "Hal's mix 2002", and Daybreak "Hal's mix 2002" is on a single and has an instrumental, and even has pv but is not on the I am... album.)

Recut singles, again, are the same as any other single, the fact that they are released after an album has come out does not make it special or void of argument or anything. And then once again, we had Mirrorcle World. Every song on that single has an instrumental but none of those songs are seen on any album whatsoever.

Also, sorry if this is coming out mean. D: not trying to hurt your feelings or anything.

Ayumi_lover 11th February 2010 04:54 PM

that doesn't hurt my feelings at all, though again you didn't mention my argument that when it comes to Love~Destiny~ single then NO song from that single was on the album, Ayu decided to make another song instead. But then no track from that single was on original album. And recut singles are really different thing for me, as they are just for promoting 1 song, while singles which came before album in japanese industry shows the way album will be and people starting to anticipate the album
again, the time will show who was right^^

ps. Then if you're mentioning resung version of a song is born, then maybe you should mention alterna, which also had different version on the album, though it was a-side

jbrat2219 11th February 2010 05:23 PM

RED LINE is debatable. I could see it being a hidden track. But Sunset is DEFINITELY going to be on the album. Whether you guys like the song or not. I'm not extremely fond of it myself but don't be delusional into thinking that just because AHS doesn't like a song, it's not going to be on the album. It was an A-side and it has a PV and everything. Do you really think a song with a promotional video and that she sang on TV to promote a single is not going to be on her upcoming album?

GRACE 11th February 2010 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by jbrat2219 (Post 2240501)
RED LINE is debatable. I could see it being a hidden track. But Sunset is DEFINITELY going to be on the album. Whether you guys like the song or not. I'm not extremely fond of it myself but don't be delusional into thinking that just because AHS doesn't like a song, it's not going to be on the album. It was an A-side and it has a PV and everything. Do you really think a song with a promotional video and that she sang on TV to promote a single is not going to be on her upcoming album?

Plus, again, she said she couldn't imagine one without the other. So really, if Sunset wasn't on it Sunrise couldn't, and there's no way she'll not include Sunrise since it was a digital hit

Kazeyomi 11th February 2010 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by jbrat2219 (Post 2240501)
RED LINE is debatable. I could see it being a hidden track. But Sunset is DEFINITELY going to be on the album. Whether you guys like the song or not. I'm not extremely fond of it myself but don't be delusional into thinking that just because AHS doesn't like a song, it's not going to be on the album. It was an A-side and it has a PV and everything. Do you really think a song with a promotional video and that she sang on TV to promote a single is not going to be on her upcoming album?

that's a good point.
May she include Sunset as a hidden or bonus track like what she does for kanariya. I guess :shrug

Sorry guys but I can't still figured out how similar songs can be regular tracks on an album lol.
Thats kinda ripetitive D: imo


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