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TeamAyu2004 22nd March 2012 05:32 AM

i think she is selling rather well for the lack of promotion that avex did for this...
I mean I have been told that most people didn't even know she had an album coming out!

jewelbox 22nd March 2012 07:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jyujiw (Post 2839350)
And AHS, why such a drama? People who are hating ayu since 2009 as it seems, please, log off. It's pretty simple ;)

I don't see any haters or bashers, I see people with opinions about this album.

AyuBlackwind 22nd March 2012 08:10 AM

I have thought seriously that Five and Party Queen are under-promoted. They weren't promoted as much as her other albums. Five had no singles. Party Queen has only HBYA and four PV's. Maybe she's in an idgaf kinda mood lately?

ccsharumun 22nd March 2012 08:11 AM

I'll say I'm surprised I was right in my personal guesstimate for the numbers thus far. I expected her name to sell more from the first day. But the analysis of some other users is starting to make sense: between the poor art/videos (compared to her previous works--I don't care how much some people said they enjoyed it) and poor last minute marketing, it's not as surprising.

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Originally Posted by Cardboard box (Post 2839430)
I don't see any haters or bashers, I see people with opinions about this album.

Agreed.

greggerz189 22nd March 2012 08:27 AM

Hm. The fact that she can still debut in the top two slots after all these years is a feat in and of itself. She doesn't exactly have the selling power she did ten years ago, so I'm impressed with the fact that she can still shake up the charts with a new release. I was pleasantly surprised to hear that she took more stylistic risks with this new album. I really hope she continues to push herself sonically and lyrically.

YUKARI 22nd March 2012 09:12 AM

if there were some promotion on tv like live performances and etc. I'm sure she'd definitely had 1st place.

ayu, avex, if you are still interested in this business, you need to understand that time has changed and now you guys need to fight for the 1st place and good sales ;)

toniayu 22nd March 2012 09:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jyujiw (Post 2839350)
And AHS, why such a drama? People who are hating ayu since 2009 as it seems, please, log off. It's pretty simple ;)

agree

Onton 22nd March 2012 10:50 AM

the figure today is gonna out soon...

Aditmi Krisnasaki ~II~ 22nd March 2012 10:57 AM

is it because of its early release at iTunes Japan? o.O

this album deserves better... :(

Foyuki 22nd March 2012 10:58 AM

2 18,115 Party Queen AVT 12/3/21
浜崎あゆみ:thud

truehappiness 22nd March 2012 11:00 AM

*83,816 Acid Black Cherry
*65,490 浜崎あゆみ
*23,358 AAA

Totals so far?

For comparison:
  NEXT LE Rock'n' Love so FIVE  Party
--------------------------------------------
月 ***,*** ***,*** ***,*** ***,*** *27,338
火 *99,200 *85,142 *70,669 *56,258 *20,037
水 *48,318 *42,288 *36,911 *27,004 *18,115
木 *24,935 *19,693 *21,854 *13,008 ***,***
金 *17,208 *15,297 *14,303 **9,235 ***,***
土 *18,089 *16,737 *12,729 **8,161 ***,***
日 *20,167 *14,841 *10,981 **9,078 ***,***
------------------------------------------------
計 227,917 193,998 167,387 122,744 (65,490)

初 240,810 205,058 180,048 127,024 ***,***
累 379,989 318,454 272,653 213,495 ***,***

I wonder if she might sell 15k+ all week? Since this week started a day early, should think of the first two days as a "first day"? If that's the case, we can expect Ayu to be around 10-15k tomorrow. Today is what would normally be the second day for most releases.

shuyalove 22nd March 2012 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by SunshineSlayer (Post 2839281)
I don't think that's really fair. Fan or not, if you don't like something, then you are under no obligation to buy it. The artist is selling their product to us and its up to us, the consumer, to judge whether it is worth buying or not. Even for me, I don't buy blindly from my various favorite artists; I just buy the products that I like the most and feel are worth the price tag - its up to the artist/record company to make me believe that they are. Record companies don't make PVs and covers just for the hell of it, they do it in the hopes that it will appeal to the consumers and they can make their money back + extra; that's why they need to make sure that what they are expecting people to pay for is actually something appealing to the audience. Sometimes they hit and sometimes they miss.
Albums and especially albums + dvd + 2dvds are expensive. I don't think only 4 pvs is necessarily the problem, but more so the quality of the pvs. Had they been 4 high quality pvs, I think more people would shell out their money.

I'm totally agree with you! I think NaNaNa PV and Shake It PV are very similar and not worked...:( I think japanese people were waiting a QUEEN (like ayu is) not a sad queen...

LONJJONG 22nd March 2012 11:29 AM

OMG seriously? O_O

SURREAL__RAINBOW 22nd March 2012 11:39 AM

I remember a couple of years ago when people used to say, "omfg I'm gonna die the day when she sells 100k of her albums and not 1m like before..."

Well, the day is here LOL

ren'ai 22nd March 2012 11:41 AM

Woahhhhhh so much drama.. She's still like, 7k ahead of kuu's JAPONESQUE 1st & 2nd day sells and Kuu dropped really fast that week and still managed 98k. If Party Queen keeps it up, 100k 1st week is in the bag. What more do you guys want?

emi♡ 22nd March 2012 11:48 AM

She's much closer to kuukuu's sales though than I had predicted...


Well, she's still doing okay.

toniayu 22nd March 2012 11:57 AM

well,i hope it reach 200,000 copies at the end

bondingo 22nd March 2012 12:23 PM

The sales are pretty good considering the current landscape of the Japanese music industry. AKB manages to sell like crazy, but there are a million reasons why they do that Ayu doesn't satisfy any of (it's also their singles that sell so well, not albums), which is good for her that she can still sell 100k in the first week (I'm sure she will at this rate) with ZERO promotion and singles leading up to it. I'm happy with the sales. I was actually expecting worse.

Tony G 22nd March 2012 12:35 PM

^ But FIVE was exactly the same (no singles, no promotion) and had a stronger 3-day total AND was a mini-album. Half a year is not a long time and definitely not long enough to see a fall this sharp and contribute it to the falling sales of CDs or a lack of promotion. This is definitely not it this time.

There should also be interest in this release given her divorce not so long ago. I was expecting that to show in the sales.

This time, it might have to do with the product itself. The artwork is one. The PVs are another. The songs (besides for the middle section and HBYA) and not tracks where people would turn to Ayu to hear. And I daresay Timmy's face being plastered in everything is probably turning away Japanese fans as well.

AyuGAME 22nd March 2012 12:42 PM

Hope for miracle from today season finale of saigo kara nibanme no koi!

I want to see Ayu get number one, even just for one day!


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