Ayumi Hamasaki Sekai - [Charts & Rankings] The Official Oricon Thread ~Party Queen~

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Originally Posted by Tony G (Post 2839523)

^ But FIVE was exactly the same (no singles, no promotion) and had a stronger 3-day total AND was a mini-album. Half a year is not a long time and definitely not long enough to see a fall this sharp and contribute it to the falling sales of CDs or a lack of promotion. This is definitely not it this time.

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This time, it might have to do with the product itself. The artwork is one. The PVs are another. The songs (besides for the middle section and HBYA) and not tracks where people would turn to Ayu to hear. And I daresay Timmy's face being plastered in everything is probably turning away Japanese fans as well.

Definitely agree that all of those were probably reasons for the decline in sales. FIVE had more promotion though, especially with progress being in a popular game and performed on TV (even Kouhaku). But also like you said, the quality has to have come into play as well. Every song on FIVE had a PV that was infinitely better in production quality than any of PQ's except Return Road. FIVE was also quite a bit cheaper because it was a mini-album yet still had just as long a DVD (one more PV and making-of than PQ's actually), which could have also factored into it.

#2 weekly is REAL!!!

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Originally Posted by ren'ai (Post 2839503)

Woahhhhhh so much drama.. She's still like, 7k ahead of kuu's JAPONESQUE 1st & 2nd day sells and Kuu dropped really fast that week and still managed 98k. If Party Queen keeps it up, 100k 1st week is in the bag. What more do you guys want?

It managed 98k? Nice! Longevity is better, I think.

Something i just noticed, one guy of the gay couple who fought then made up in how beautiful you are PV is actually a gay porn star, i seen him somewhere before. Ooops, secrets out, hahahhahaha

Ｉ　ｔｈｉｎｋ　ｔｈａｔ　ｗａｓ　ｍｅｎｔｉｏｎｅｄ　ｓｏｍｅｗｈｅｒｅ　ｅｌｓｅ　ａｓ　ｗｅｌｌ．．．　

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Originally Posted by Foyuki (Post 2839481)

2 18,115 Ｐａｒｔｙ　Ｑｕｅｅｎ AVT 12/3/21
浜崎あゆみ:thud

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Originally Posted by truehappiness (Post 2839482)

*83,816　Acid Black Cherry
*65,490　浜崎あゆみ
*23,358　AAA

Totals so far?

For comparison:
　　NEXT LE　Rock'n'　Love so　FIVE　　Party
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月　***,***　***,***　***,***　***,***　*27,338
火　*99,200　*85,142　*70,669　*56,258　*20,037
水　*48,318　*42,288　*36,911　*27,004　*18,115
木　*24,935　*19,693　*21,854　*13,008　***,***
金　*17,208　*15,297　*14,303　**9,235　***,***
土　*18,089　*16,737　*12,729　**8,161　***,***
日　*20,167　*14,841　*10,981　**9,078　***,***
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計　227,917　193,998　167,387　122,744　(65,490)

初　240,810　205,058　180,048　127,024　***,***
累　379,989　318,454　272,653　213,495　***,***

I wonder if she might sell 15k+ all week? Since this week started a day early, should think of the first two days as a "first day"? If that's the case, we can expect Ayu to be around 10-15k tomorrow. Today is what would normally be the second day for most releases.

This is getting a little bit too scary here, but...

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Originally Posted by mecury2511 (Post 2839534)

#2 weekly is REAL!!!

Yeah, I agree. :yes

I don't think Party Queen now deserve the #1. But the NINKI ratings...

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2012年03月16日付
期待度ポイント 171.30
アーティスト浜崎あゆみ
タイトルＰａｒｔｙ　Ｑｕｅｅｎ
発売日 2012年03月21日発売

期待度ポイントアーティストタイトル発売日
87.40 Ａｃｉｄ　Ｂｌａｃｋ　Ｃｈｅｒｒｙ『２０１２』 03/21
55.60 ＡＡＡＡｎｏｔｈｅｒ　ｓｉｄｅ　ｏｆ　＃ＡＡＡＢＥＳＴ 03/21
55.20 清水翔太Ｎａｔｕｒａｌｌｙ 03/21
29.40 东京スカパラダイスオーケストラＷａｌｋｉｎ’ 03/21

28.40 Ｍａｙ’ｎＨＥＡＴ 03/21
24.20 ＢＥＮＩＣＯＶＥＲＳ 03/21
22.60 ＴＥＡＭ　ＨＬｏｕｎｇｅＨ　ザ・ファースト・インプレッション 03/21
22.30 ＪＡＭＯＳＡＴＲＹ 03/21
18.80 小泉今日子Ｋｙｏｎ３０　～なんてったって３０年！～（初回生产限定盘） 03/21

She had higher NINKI ratings (almost double of Acid Black Cherry), yet ABC is trying to do some "March Madness upset" here...

Honestly, the only reason Ayu's been having #1 spots for a while now is because avex releases her stuff when there is no competition. Has anything Ayu related ever been released during a week when AKB48 released something? This is the first time Ayu's gone up against "competition" during a release, and its just showing her true sales. Its not a diss to Ayu or anything, its just the current state of the music market. She doesn't sell like she used to. Neither do many female artists who are not part of an idol group, save for like Namie or Kana because they are "cool" right now. I wish some of my favorite unknown artists sold like Ayu is doing now. It would be a miracle from Heaven, lol.

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Originally Posted by happiholic★ (Post 2839592)

Yeah, I have a feeling that Ayu's doing her best and pushing hard to her limits. But Acid Black Cherry...man, the Janne De Arc soloist has the upper hand this time. And as you may have heard before, anything can happen...

Maybe the album will pull a Mirrorcle World...

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Originally Posted by happiholic★ (Post 2839592)

you know I've been an ABC fan for the past 2 years but to see 2012 performing even better than I've expected , I'm really in awe

I really thought ayumi would hampen ABC easily & the fact that they're label mates , I thought that's that but looks like things are not as simple as it looks

but it's always really heartening to see whenever a dark horse would just swoop in & left everyone in shock which I should be included in

anyway I always dread it everytime my fandoms clash with each other & even if Party Queen has to settle for #2 , sure , I take it , it's not the end of the world for me . GUILTY didn't get #1 but it didn't stopped me from enjoying the album despite it being really dark

Yea even #1 for a day would be nice...lol..this is kinda saddening :(

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Originally Posted by happiholic★ (Post 2839592)

Neither do many female artists who are not part of an idol group, save for like Namie or Kana because they are "cool" right now.

Even Kana Nishino's sales are dropping a lot again. Her latest album sold only a bit more total(340k) than her one before did in one week(290k, total 700k) and her single sales seem to be dropping, too.
The only female pop singers with consistently high sales that aren't having extreme drops are YUI and Namie(hard to say for her since she doesn't have the usual release pattern and her latest album was like a mix between compilation and new album lol) I think. And even YUI's latest album had a 20-30% sales drop. :thud

Just...really bad for female solo artists right now

She really might not get #1 this time. I'm not gonna lie, this predicament makes me want to try out the #1 album :laugh

It's diffrent Namie has change her style to make a music more actual ! when ayu was in her peak where was Namie ? her singles were sold 40k and album 200 k and the situation of solo artists was not the same as today lol it's not since a long time that she has returned to popular again !

#2 weekly isn't bad. It could be even worse than that if there was more competition with many, many idol groups. That would be even worse, meaning she might not even reach Top 5. o_O;;

I think I've heard some Acid Black Cherry songs few years ago... in 2008 actually. I just don't remember if they were good or not but I've acknowledged this music act for a while now. *think think*

Kana Nishino isn't a good comparison for Ayu. Kana Nishino is primarily a digitial artist. Doesn't she sell like... twice as much digitally than she does on physical sales?

this is so sad.
But I guess number 2 is still good.
I hope it gets number one in the longer run... but i still notice that Ayumi's drops are less than ABC's.

#2 isn't a bad thing :P

Her #1 album streak has already been broken so whatever.

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Originally Posted by relmy (Post 2839669)

Kana Nishino isn't a good comparison for Ayu. Kana Nishino is primarily a digitial artist. Doesn't she sell like... twice as much digitally than she does on physical sales?

Going from 700k album sales to 350k in one year is still a pretty huge drop, and her digital sales are dropping from what I can tell, too. But yeah, she's still really big just seemingly past her peak now. Unless she achieves a second peak a la Namie which...I doubt.

In the end I'm not worrying about PQ though, 150k are already perfectly fine sales most artists can only dream of and I'm convinced she can reach that, this album was a gigantic risk in more than just one way AND not promoted much.

Wow we're gonna be lucky if this album sells 150k at this rate :thud

Times really have changed for Ayu...