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Beyond the Sea 28th March 2007 04:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Spark (Post 1052381)
I blame Koda for this. What is it her third best? That's sickening! I bet she can't sell another album without putting a "BEST" on it.

What's next?
Black Cherry ~SPECIAL BEST EDITION~?
Koda Kumi ~BEST Session #030213~
Koda Kumi ~My BEST Assets~?

:eviltongu

Even though her album that wasn't a best that was released just a few months ago reached 900,000+. Thank goodness for smart people like you~!

ayu_fan929 28th March 2007 04:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Peger (Post 1052459)
Kuu doesn't really decide what she's going to release, avex does.

I agree. If avex can force Ayu to release A BEST, then avex can also force Kuu to release ~BOUNCE & LOVERS~.

slowmoth 28th March 2007 04:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Peger (Post 1052459)
Kuu doesn't really decide what she's going to release, avex does. Their over-marketing of Kuu seems to be bringing her career down pretty quickly, i hope she bounces back from Bounce and Lovers.

At least it didn't reached #1 and the sales are like Ayu's 3rd week ones :yes
I think Kuu's 2006 year was like Ayu's 2001 year

truehappiness 28th March 2007 06:06 AM

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Originally Posted by ayu_fan929 (Post 1052469)
I agree. If avex can force Ayu to release A BEST, then avex can also force Kuu to release ~BOUNCE & LOVERS~.

Shouldn't that go for the other two bests too then? lol

..:Hot:Like:Wow:.. 28th March 2007 06:19 AM

So Avex can force Ayu to release A BEST but Ayu can tell the president of Aves to go **** himself... yeah, ok, she was forced.

Spark 28th March 2007 06:52 AM

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..:Hot:Like:Wow:.. 28th March 2007 07:00 AM

Spark: She did release an album with BEST on it and it flopped. So putiing a label on it of BEST did'nt work this time around.

Spark 28th March 2007 07:20 AM

*sigh* You know what? It's not even worth discussing anymore.

I'm just going to edit my post and leave this place.

I'm Out.

SkyDefender! 28th March 2007 07:23 AM

sales is so bad for a best 2, eventho its a greatets hitls

ayu_fan929 28th March 2007 12:35 PM

Dropped to #18/19 today with the 10 new releases.

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Originally Posted by truehappiness (Post 1052513)
Shouldn't that go for the other two bests too then? lol

I guess. It could also be the fact that she didn't release a BEST album in her 1st contract and now they are 'making up' for the lost BEST album now by releasing 3 in a row.

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Originally Posted by Kingofpop (Post 1052519)
So Avex can force Ayu to release A BEST but Ayu can tell the president of Aves to go **** himself... yeah, ok, she was forced.

Weren't these events 2 different time periods?

elepop 28th March 2007 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by ayu_fan929 (Post 1052661)
Dropped to #18/19 today with the 10 new releases.

Oh my...

Oh well, I think it might climb back to 13-14 this week.

Go Ai!

*Petit* 28th March 2007 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by ayu_fan929 (Post 1052661)

Weren't these events 2 different time periods?

pretty much. The "ayu can kick avex" came up when she threatened to leave back in 2004.

..:Hot:Like:Wow:.. 28th March 2007 01:05 PM

Ayu would have got her way about anything from 2000-2007+ so thats why I don't think they can really force her to release A best album if she did'nt want to.

atomicguy 28th March 2007 01:34 PM

selling the most or not Ayu is the queen-bee of the japanese music industry, she's in a "Beatles" level, she can sell 500 copies with her next release she still going to be the queen, even Namie on her top couldn't have as many #1s as ayu has.

Koda is the top-dog. not the queen-bee, it will take at least some sell out arena/stadiums/dome tours, and something like 25 #1 singles.
but with the way she releases she could have that in two weeks, but it seems to me that she can only debut at #2

Peger 28th March 2007 02:54 PM

Ayu only got the power to stick it to the avex execs after the Matsuura incident in 2004, and that was really only because she had made so much money and generated so much publicity for the company by then that they couldn't refuse her anymore. Koda doesn't have nearly that much power, especially since she was a minor artist for such a long time before getting popular in 05. While artist can play a big part in producing their music, they usually don't decide what they release, when, etc. That's their label's prerogative.

voltron 28th March 2007 05:38 PM

^ Besides all that too, she was thinking of quitting after A Best. When everything happened with AVEX and the president, it was more complicated. Her message made clear that she had the support of many other AVEX artists in choosing to leave if MAX were to leave. So they'd be losing money from their biggest artist, and many of their other ones. I mean, Ayu is friends with BoA, Misono, probably Koda Kumi, and many other artists...that's a lot of power.

~*Mabushii*~ 28th March 2007 05:43 PM

03/27 - #19 --- #18

ouch

ayu_fan929 28th March 2007 08:33 PM

If it's written in the artist's contract, they are really forced to release it. It's either you release it or you don't sing for the rest of your life kind of thing.

Impracticable 28th March 2007 08:45 PM

Well, Ayumi was originally going to quit after A BEST if im correct, but 9/11 is what kept her to keep singing.

And Kuu was only popular for a period. Her terms over know. Ayumi is probably going to take 2007 as top-dog i she releases a triple a side in july ...

Oh yeah, even if Ayu is friends with misono, dosentmatter too much. misonos sales are hardly anything ... i think never + land only sold 10,000 if im correct. Although, can't be sure with the validity if wikipedia ...

Ayumi is ALWAYS going to be "queen-bee". I'm hoping [This will NEVERRRR happen] for sales of at LEAST 500,000+ if she realeses a quadruple A side [unlikely]. 400,000 if shes releases a triple a side [still unlikely XD] 300,000 for a double a side [possible] and 200,000 if she realese only an a side [extremely likely]

kinix 28th March 2007 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Impracticable (Post 1052976)
Well, Ayumi was originally going to quit after A BEST if im correct, but 9/11 is what kept her to keep singing. I have read numerous articles stating this, but i dont know how valid they are ...

I don't think she's going to quit. Well @ least not willingly. There's rumors that avex forced ayu to release the best album as her last album and seeing how well the album sold, they kept her and continue to sell 'her'.
A BEST were released during MARCH while 9/11 was during sept of cos =.=" quite a long period so I don't think so...


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