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Andrenekoi 1st October 2010 04:57 AM

^I think Emiko is saying that people are talking like she killed a baby seal, while she just did some everyday trolling... Was it against Ayu? So what? Ayu pretty much got it and didn't mind...

ストロボ・EdGE 1st October 2010 04:57 AM

This is why people hate us.

People= general Jpop community
us= Ayu fans

jbrat2219 1st October 2010 05:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Andrenekoi (Post 2506251)
^I think Emiko is saying that people are talking like she killed a baby seal, while she just did some everyday trolling... Was it against Ayu? So what? Ayu pretty much got it and didn't mind...

Yeah I know... I haven't really read all the reactions everyone else had but I'm pretty much over the fact. Ayu just tweeted something about SoftBank! Well sort of. xD;

Quote:

(*^^*)RT @masason: できました。「浜崎さん×お父さん」の夢のコラボCM。見れます。 OAは明日からですが、一足お先に⇒
I'm way too lazy to translate but something about Ayu and Otousan dream collaboration CM and that it's finished. Not really news but I'm trying to change the conversation here, work with me. :laugh

ストロボ・EdGE 1st October 2010 05:08 AM

And LOL at Nemesis for getting so much attention despite being gone from this forum for what, half a year? She was fun and all and I liked her being here most of the time because the least you can say is that she was different, but defend her you may, she is the definition of attention *****, not some oh-so clever person with a unique and cool sense of humor. Still wish she was around though, haha.

And LOL at Ayu for ending her reply to her with "A world is ONE".

emi♡ 1st October 2010 05:16 AM

You guys are not getting the point about Neme at all.

You really think she's attention seeking?

:laugh

You guys are the ones who give her attention.

Nemesisyume does what she wants, when she wants, at whatever whim she has, and it has nothing to do with any of you. She couldn't care less about you, or any consequences to any of her actions.

That's Nemes. Think about it.

In any case, yes, you guys are acting like she killed a baby seal. And she didn't. She was just being herself.

I never said I was going to defend her, nor do I see her disposition as an excuse for her behavior.

I just said, it's not that big a deal.

But don't worry about it. The reaction was expected.

Andrenekoi 1st October 2010 05:18 AM

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Originally Posted by emiko (Post 2506273)
You guys are not getting the point about Neme at all.

You really think she's attention seeking?

:laugh

You guys are the ones who give her attention.

Nemesisyume does what she wants, when she wants, at whatever whim she has, and it has nothing to do with any of you. She couldn't care less about you, or any consequences to any of her actions.

That's Nemes. Think about it.

In any case, yes, you guys are acting like she killed a baby seal. And she didn't. She was just being herself.

I never said I was going to defend her, nor do I see her disposition as an excuse for her behavior.

I just said, it's not that big a deal.

But don't worry about it. The reaction was expected.

It has some time we don't agree on a subject... let's drink to it!
xD
<3

ストロボ・EdGE 1st October 2010 05:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by emiko (Post 2506273)
You guys are not getting the point about Neme at all.

You really think she's attention seeking?

:laugh

You guys are the ones who give her attention.

Nemesisyume does what she wants, when she wants, at whatever whim she has, and it has nothing to do with any of you. She couldn't care less about you, or any consequences to any of her actions.


That's Nemes. Think about it.

In any case, yes, you guys are acting like she killed a baby seal. And she didn't. She was just being herself.

I never said I was going to defend her, nor do I see her disposition as an excuse for her behavior.

I just said, it's not that big a deal.

If that's true she wouldn't be showing it all to the world- she'd be at home alone brewing in her awesome awesomeness. You don't go "Hmm, IDGAF about everyone showering me with negative attention, but let me go do something that would earn it, just for the fun of it, because hey, that's my personality!"

We GIVE her that negative attention because she's BAITING it, though with this logic we're just as much at fault.

emi♡ 1st October 2010 05:23 AM

^why shouldn't she do that? She feels like it lol She thinks it's funny.

meh whatever, this is like so yesterdays news, im tired of talking about it lol I only came back for andrenekoi ;)
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Originally Posted by Andrenekoi (Post 2506279)
It has some time we don't agree on a subject... let's drink to it!
xD
<3

:afro

ストロボ・EdGE 1st October 2010 05:25 AM

I get that you like her and that you're friends (I'm assuming) but it sounds more like you're defending stupid behavior of a person you like than proving your point. :/

xLitax 1st October 2010 05:33 AM

There's another term for that. What was it, what... Oh yeah, *******.

Okay there's a fine line between being sarcastic or funny or being carefree and being an *******. And she crosses that line. Because I've never, I'm not saying she hasn't, but I've never seen her say anything nice to anyone. I don't know though. :shrug

If you're friends, great. Not trying to offend anyone//

emi♡ 1st October 2010 05:37 AM

@Edge: well then go back and read my post, because I said I wasnt defending her.

If you don't believe me, or believe I'm acting contrary to what I said, I'm sorry, but I said everything I needed to say.


In any case, Miss Nemesisyume would like to know if it is any of you who are sending her the death threats she has been receiving, and if so, if you could please stop.

Thanks so much :)

Andrenekoi 1st October 2010 05:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by emiko (Post 2506317)
@Edge: well then go back and read my post, because I said I wasnt defending her.

If you don't believe me, or believe I'm acting contrary to what I said, I'm sorry, but I said everything I needed to say.


In any case, Miss Nemesisyume would like to know if it is any of you who are sending her the death threats she has been receiving, and if so, if you would please stop.

Thanks :)

Quote:

Originally Posted by ストロボ・EdGE (Post 2506252)
This is why people hate us.

People= general Jpop community
us= Ayu fans

The sad thing about Twitter, is that after the retiring thing, even Ayu knows how stupid her fans can be ~~'

jbrat2219 1st October 2010 05:40 AM

MOVING ON!

SoftBank CM Ayu tweeted about is out.

http://mb.softbank.jp/mb/special/ayu/

ストロボ・EdGE 1st October 2010 05:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by emiko (Post 2506317)
@Edge: well then go back and read my post, because I said I wasnt defending her.

If you don't believe me, or believe I'm acting contrary to what I said, I'm sorry, but I said everything I needed to say.

/Goes to re-read.

Mhm, blaming stupid crap on us not understanding that crazy sense of humor she apparently has and "her just being her" sounds a whole lot like defending, but w/e, I'm out.

emi♡ 1st October 2010 05:47 AM

lol then I'm sorry, you didn't get all that was possible out of my post.


Thanks for the link jbrat :)

MemorialAddress 1st October 2010 05:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xLitax (Post 2506309)
There's another term for that. What was it, what... Oh yeah, *******.

Okay there's a fine line between being sarcastic or funny or being carefree and being an *******. And she crosses that line. Because I've never, I'm not saying she hasn't, but I've never seen her say anything nice to anyone. I don't know though. :shrug

If you're friends, great. Not trying to offend anyone//

:yes

asmAyumi1992 1st October 2010 06:25 AM

I like how emiko and ren said. They resembles me a lot.

crea_spain 1st October 2010 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by ren0210989 (Post 2506146)

personally, i was sooo happy for you jorge when Ayu gave you so much attention, all the mentioning, the MC thing and all. you're like the luckiest fan alive, EVER! and not just the ayu thing, i mean, i doubt that any fan in the world was ever been that noticed by his/her idol, EVER!!!!
but when the thing with Ayu not coming to spain a few months ago happened, i wanted to punch and beat the crap out of you man. you whined so damn much, you were lit. hysterical about it! i saw it as disrespect and thought you were ungrateful. i could be wrong here, but i think you and miki spammed the hell out of twitter that time, and whined waaay too much, (i could be wrong, and all but, it was a while ago so i don't remember it all, n i apologize if i didn't mention someone or mentioned the wrong person) if it were not you guys, i'd think it was just some idiot fans trying to get pitiful attention from Ayu. i mean c'mon, you got so much attention from her, Ayu even wore your country's jersey/T-shirt on her tour!!! that's like... WOW! the greatest thing anyone could do to show how much she/he cares for that country and how much respect she has for Spain. and it's all thanks to YOU!!! you should all be honored as hell.

look, I'll always say the same, I chose Ayumi and she chose me, whom was with me in London knows me and know as I am, you're not going to believe me but it was HERSELF who ask to Stan-chan to take our photo together, it was HERSELF who during first day using twitter call for my name asking wtf was I... (thanks aura & gigi for helping with this while I was sleeping xD)... it was HERSELF who call for my name in this MC or remembering me in Yahoo! interview... that's why I'll be eternally grateful to her, she did all this because she wanted to do it so I don't feel guilty or anything, it was her OWN decision and I think all of you should respect her decision.

1. I've never spammed her, when I've something to say I'll send her about 1 or 2 tweets by day, you will never see me sending some repeated tweet, I respect people who does so but I don't like spam.

2. I remember that night, you're right, I was upset with avex (not with her) when she said could not come to Spain, I was feeling down because really was waiting to see Ayumi in my country in less than one week... can you understand my frustration? I have never disrespected her, I just sent her ONE tweet trying to know what was the reason why could not come here because she said me that really wanted to come here... now we all know what was the reason (shooting PV's and recording songs in LA) => that was supposed to be done before a-nation but... yes, I went mad blaming avex for changing the plans. Many people was happy when said that would not come to Spain, that made me feel even sadder, but hey, I'll never give up, Spain loves her and she loves our country so I know surely some day will come...

3. day after I apologize her for blaming avex through TA message and also twitter. I know was wrong, everyone makes mistakes and I regret a lot of that reaction.

I know there are people that hates me, that will not change, also know there are many more people loves me, what I call my real friends, I know who they are... everyone of us have our own lives, focus on enjoying Ayumi, enjoy her music, I can't do anything, as all of you I also love her so much and you can be sure I'll be grateful to her ALWAYS for everything she has done for me, she knows it.

kagami 1st October 2010 08:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crea_spain (Post 2506481)
look, I'll always say the same, I chose Ayumi and she chose me, whom was with me in London knows me and know as I am, you're not going to believe me but it was HERSELF who ask to Stan-chan to take our photo together, it was HERSELF who during first day using twitter call for my name asking wtf was I... (thanks aura & gigi for helping with this while I was sleeping xD)... it was HERSELF who call for my name in this MC or remembering me in Yahoo! interview... that's why I'll be eternally grateful to her, she did all this because she wanted to do it so I don't feel guilty or anything, it was her OWN decision and I think all of you should respect her decision.

1. I've never spammed her, when I've something to say I'll send her about 1 or 2 tweets by day, you will never see me sending some repeated tweet, I respect people who does so but I don't like spam.

2. I remember that night, you're right, I was upset with avex (not with her) when she said could not come to Spain, I was feeling down because really was waiting to see Ayumi in my country in less than one week... can you understand my frustration? I have never disrespected her, I just sent her ONE tweet trying to know what was the reason why could not come here because she said me that really wanted to come here... now we all know what was the reason (shooting PV's and recording songs in LA) => that was supposed to be done before a-nation but... yes, I went mad blaming avex for changing the plans. Many people was happy when said that would not come to Spain, that made me feel even sadder, but hey, I'll never give up, Spain loves her and she loves our country so I know surely some day will come...

3. day after I apologize her for blaming avex through TA message and also twitter. I know was wrong, everyone makes mistakes and I regret a lot of that reaction.

I know there are people that hates me, that will not change, also know there are many more people loves me, what I call my real friends, I know who they are... everyone of us have our own lives, focus on enjoying Ayumi, enjoy her music, I can't do anything, as all of you I also love her so much and you can be sure I'll be grateful to her ALWAYS for everything she has done for me, she knows it.

:)
You shouldn't have to explain yourself. Other people are just jealous with the relationship you have with Ayu. I, for one, am really happy for you. It's nice to know that Ayu can treat her fans as friends, rather than just people who like her music.
And I hope one day she'll visit Spain, I've always thought she'd be able to make a lovely photobook or something there.

crea_spain 1st October 2010 09:06 AM

Thank you kagami, I'd wish everyone were like you and I also hope she can go to Australia soon.


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