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Originally Posted by bluegie (Post 2060040)

Also, a low budget pv doesn't equal to a poorly executed one. For instance, GREEN (and even Mirrorcle World) looks more expensive than Days, but I believe many of us love Days over that damn guy's directed pv. Looking back to her older pvs like evolution, M, appears, etc., I dun think they use high budgets, but the executions are great, make them really nice pvs.

This.

Green and MW pvs indeed looks expensive and a lot going on in the pvs that they don't look boring to watch...but they were poorly executed. Such a waste. I still can't get over the glass breaking part in MW where we only got a fierce look and no glass breaking. It could of been epic.

I actually like this single okay. The only thing I think I don't like is the covers. The PVs are fine to me because it's not like Ayu's never done simple PVs. At least the angles and execution was more stable than say in GREEN. I really disliked how all over the place Kazu's PVs were. =w=

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Originally Posted by Yagami Raito (Post 2059954)

In fact, most of the Japanese doesn't know anything about the sales ! Even the TA members don't check the sales figure..
When I told some of them the sales they were like "Is it a joke ? Come on it's Ayu she will sell more that 150,000 during the first week" So I had to demonstrate them some prooves (thanks oricon !) and show us that even other artists don't sell as much as in the past !
Japanese are not really aware about sales figures aha
So low sales doesn't mean poor quality at all. And here we're not (at least I'm not) saying that's poor quality. 10 nin 10 iro ! (10 persons 10 colors) Everyone has a personal opinion.

Anyway even if the sales all low (personally I think it's okay..!) comparing a some other Ayu's recent single, we can't say that's a flop because she's n°1 !

Yeah. That's why on Ayu's Japanese wikipedia, there are no sales figures (or at least no sales figures organised so nicely like in her English page). It's the same with most other artists. Sometimes they go "This single sold more than -number-" but I find that it's the people who make Ayu's English wiki that are the most concerned with sales figures. :P

So guess what, it's just us! lol.

so we concerned too much ?
lol ~

honestly, i just like Sunrise lol
but i guess that's all i need to like this single :)

Don't know who's watched the full music station yet, but their top 10 ranking was weird. They have B'z at 1., Ayu at 2., and MM at 3. I know Music Station doesn't count the full oricon week, but shouldn't Ayu and MM have sold enough at this point to be ranked 1 and 2? (like usual on Music Station)

erm I read somewhere that their top 10 ranking's different from Oricon & they only count the sales of Fri's ? :shrug

I could be wrong about it

Ayu not at #1? that's ridiculous! Surely she sold more than B'z by now... I wonder what they counted :S

^ Makes me think that maybe if they had done at least a few tv lives, B'z would be #1 for 2 weeks. They were also listed as #1 on Music Stations chaku uta chart.

God knows what they counted, I doubt that they can outsell S/S this week.

B'z's trajecory by far this week is something like this:

10,000 Monday + 12,000 Tuesday (they were #4 just assuming), 9,000 Wednesday (it was around 8,000), 6,957 Tuesday. If the numbers are true and it's not lower it's around 38,000 by far while today ayu will pass the 60,000 (and B'z maybe the 40,000 or 35,000). They might get #2 leaving Momusu #3 but I don't think they will get #1.

Oricon should really start counting digital sales somehow or at least make a separate charts for them. Anyways hopefully today's index won't be lower than 6-7k.

^Amen to that! In these days the physical selling isnt the samt thing at all as for like 10 years ago.

4th day sales: 6,233
Rank: #2
Total: 36,552 (#1) + 12,873 (#1) + 8,104 (#1) + 6,233 (#2) = 63 762

^ that's ok. Hopefully the numbers will jump back to 8k or so the next two days and then prolly drop to like 4k. It's almost safe to say the first week might be a bit better than talkin' 2 myself's ( 70,325 ).

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Originally Posted by Ayumiko (Post 2060497)

is B'z daily #1?

Yep

^oh thanks! Just saw B'z sales (6547)...not that much more than ayu...so its ok =D

oh no...
The last time I seen this is in MW Vs. SCS.
But it doesn't threat her #1 streaks right? :(

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@Nippon
Your siggy creeps me out! :laugh

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Originally Posted by Lanz16 (Post 2060508)

oh no...
The last time I seen this is in MW Vs. SCS.
But it doesn't threat her #1 streaks right? :(

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@Nippon
Your siggy creeps me out! :laugh

Yup, the #1 is as good as hers, Morning Masume fell below Gackt ^_^ You're not the only one :rolleyes

^ Yeah, thanks
I wonder what happened to Momosu atm in charts, aren't they supposed to be great contender in it?