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njanjayrp 2nd September 2008 08:55 AM

She did sound good in GD but not really lip-sync good ^^

freedreamer 2nd September 2008 08:58 AM

Greatful Days sounds PERFECT!!!!!! omgg...i hope its real...
(bet some people are gonna source it out..)

B&G sounded quite..rough lol...

SunshineSlayer 2nd September 2008 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by se7entheaven (Post 1614182)
^ wow
Greatful days almost sounds like lipsync
silky smooth voice ^^

I don't want to jump to conclusions, but I kind of suspect that. Won't know till I've seen the full performance though. But judging how she is jumping around and waving her arm like that (similar to what she was doing in Mirrorcle World), her voice should not be coming out as smooth as that - you should be able to hear some kind of variation.

MissElin_ 2nd September 2008 09:46 AM

Wow Greatful Days really sounded like perfection!! O.o Im soooo happy to hear that!! :heart Im also hoping it to be real. Its almost too good. But why not? She is good. ^^

Jwiz 2nd September 2008 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by SunshineSlayer (Post 1614301)
I don't want to jump to conclusions, but I kind of suspect that. Won't know till I've seen the full performance though. But judging how she is jumping around and waving her arm like that (similar to what she was doing in Mirrorcle World), her voice should not be coming out as smooth as that - you should be able to hear some kind of variation.

When the tv version is released on wowow all doubts will be cleared ;)

SunshineSlayer 2nd September 2008 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Jwiz (Post 1614323)
When the tv version is released on wowow all doubts will be cleared ;)

or confirmed. haha. :) But it may not even get resolved at all. Last years coverage was actually pretty minimal (only 3 songs)

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Originally Posted by MissElin_ (Post 1614320)
Wow Greatful Days really sounded like perfection!! O.o Im soooo happy to hear that!! :heart Im also hoping it to be real. Its almost too good. But why not? She is good. ^^

If this were 03-05 I would have no doubt that it is real. These days, I don't know. When every song other than this one sounds barely ok and then all of a sudden this one is perfect, people are naturally going to be suspicious.

Faiza 2nd September 2008 09:56 AM

Wow.. she sounded horrible during MW and Boys and Girls but perfect during Greatful Days

prussian blue 2nd September 2008 09:58 AM

^thats what i want to say...

but let us hear the full version first

Meat Pao 2nd September 2008 10:22 AM

Sorry if I'm being mean here, but I noticed that sometimes Ayu lip sync in her concerts taken from other concerts...

SunshineSlayer 2nd September 2008 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by meatpao (Post 1614339)
Sorry if I'm being mean here, but I noticed that sometimes Ayu lip sync in her concerts taken from other concerts...

The concert dvds aren't good things to go by if you are looking for evidence of lip syncing since Avex "doctors" them before release. Although I do think there are some times when she lips syncs.

Melrose 2nd September 2008 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by meatpao (Post 1614339)
Sorry if I'm being mean here, but I noticed that sometimes Ayu lip sync in her concerts taken from other concerts...

Yea, but not a-nation.

She lip synched evolution at CDL06-07, AT07 and CDL07-08. She also lip synched STEP you and Ladies Night half/half for AT06 and CDL07-08. (Though I can't prove the latter.)

until that Day... from AT07 sounds VERY lip synched, but when you watch the documentary you hear that it's actually live when they show the perf at another concert (unedited). That whole concert has just been given "perfected" vocals for some stupid reason.

AT08 btw is 100% live from the news clip.

But Ayu sings like 95% of the time live, so...

Back on topic for A-Nation? :]

I don't really get the whole complaining about her vocals all the time lol. She still sings 50 times better than all the candidates from Idols.

njanjayrp 2nd September 2008 11:03 AM

People! have you ever heard the studio version of Grateful Days (plus the KU in hajimeyuKU does sound different and LIVE)?There is no reason to lip-sync an a-nation performance especially not a song such as this one. And if that's not enough, Ayu screwed up her live perfs. (when it comes to singing) too many times to care about this one, so there is no reason as the performance wasn't that tiring. And after the dumb comments about her lip-syncing Marionette I am pretty sure most of the people don't even listen properly and make false statements.

Linoa62 2nd September 2008 11:38 AM

If you want, I converted these videos into divx :

http://www.mediafire.com/?ey4jsybje6w

http://www.mediafire.com/?keqqqvq4tfx

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Jwiz 2nd September 2008 11:45 AM

^ Thanks alot!

4ever*ayu 2nd September 2008 12:50 PM

wow..thx Luna62 !
i usually convert all my videos to DivX...so appreciate it!

waterballoon 2nd September 2008 01:31 PM

Well, Greatful days sound nice from the clip, but we can't judge if she lip-synched or not just from that few seconds. I mean, with her forgetting lyrics, singing the wrong line sometimes, or going out of tune at times... I doubt she ever lip-synches.

Of course, with every DVD release that she has, it has been edited. I watched the HDTV and DVD versions of CDL 07-08 and I could hear that there was a marked difference in them.

And, if she lip-synched... I mean this short clip barely sounded like the Greatful days on a CD. It's only good because she sounded in-tune and quite stable. But it's definitely different from the CD version... or at least that's how my ears hear it.

MissElin_ 2nd September 2008 01:44 PM

Well actually. In CDL07-08 I smilply think (in the editing) that they took away more of Princess and Pecos voices that kind of overflowed Ayus voice in the tv-version. I mean, I was there and I didnt reflect on bad singing during the whole evening.

waterballoon 2nd September 2008 01:58 PM

^ Yeah. And they removed Peco's ANNOYING moaning of the male dancers' names when they were doing their solo in STEP you/Ladies Night!

heartplace83 2nd September 2008 02:06 PM

omg she looks like a crazy woman when performing mirrorcle world in that video O.o
but greatful days performance looks great~!

jiarongisme 2nd September 2008 02:17 PM

Greatful days sounds awesome! Well about the whole lip-syncing thing, I think that ayu is very good at changing her voice from always sing out of tune in those pop-rock songs (MW is a perfect example xD), to a kinda perfect sounding mellow song (Greatful days in this case). It's kinda normal if you've seen her past performances. It's highly impossible for her to lip-sync in this songs.. So yeah.

Oh yeah, IMO


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