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njanjayrp 15th August 2009 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Lanz16 (Post 2060515)
^ Yeah, thanks
I wonder what happened to Momosu atm in charts, aren't they supposed to be great contender in it?

It seems their fan campaign to get them #1 failed and this single seems to be selling the regular way their previous singles did :) And it's nowhere to be seen on Recochoku ^_^

Lanz16 15th August 2009 11:32 AM

^ awww... to bad for them :(

Im happy she get the #1 spot once again! :)
About on sales, im quite satisfied and not that disappointed since they show now the real figures.

aqua_crystal 15th August 2009 11:33 AM

It's gone to #2 already??? :(

ayumisrael 15th August 2009 11:34 AM

Wow, the drop is good!!! (Yeah no drop is good but it's so small!).

talkin' 2 myself

1st Day:15,010 (x1.75) = 26,268
2nd Day: 9,987 (x1.75) = 17,477
3rd Day: 5,113 (x1.75) = 8,948
4th Day: 2,811 (x1.75) = 4,919
=
57,612

S/S 4 days outsells t2m 4 days in 6,150 by far!

TITANIC 15th August 2009 12:30 PM

no hope for this single anymore


TT

ayumisrael 15th August 2009 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by riozz (Post 2060561)
no hope for this single anymore


TT

Why not? XD
The #1 streak will continue and it might outsell talkin' 2 myself. ^^
The songs (mainly Sunrise) also do good on the recochoku charts.

sanzo2011 15th August 2009 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by riozz (Post 2060561)
no hope for this single anymore


TT

totally agree ! sales' re too terrible !

ayumisrael 15th August 2009 12:40 PM

Why won't people get used to the new "good/decent" standarts?

pop909 15th August 2009 12:44 PM

haha ayumisrael we want it to do well but I guess the numbers just arent coming out the same!

SURREAL__RAINBOW 15th August 2009 12:54 PM

gonna be her lowest selling summer single maybe??

thanks for the update btw :)

ayumisrael 15th August 2009 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by pop909 (Post 2060577)
haha ayumisrael we want it to do well but I guess the numbers just arent coming out the same!

I would like ayu to do extremely well too but at this point, that we know that the single isn't a smashing hit single and avex have no special strategies for her, her popularity won't go up and so are the sales.
Looking generally on sales, specially of solo female artists, some of them there were super popular as well that sell the same or lower as her, it still shows that ayu still has a selling power, and the numbers are good.
Nothing amazing or above average, nothing bad, but good. =D
And she does that with just the normal 2 editions and with no first presses!

If you expect way higher sales I can understand how you feel (though I still don't understand why to expect way higher sales while there is no reason( It's ayu! is not a reason XD.)
Between her summer singles since 2004 the sales just went down between each other and from the reasons I said (no smashing hit single as we know and no special helps/strategies from avex) there shouldn't be any go up sales or even consistent sales expectation.

No expectations, no dissapointments. And again it's not like those numbers are bad or anything. =D
There are a lot of artists who used to be really popular and wish to have those sales now.

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Originally Posted by SURREAL__RAINBOW (Post 2060582)
gonna be her lowest selling summer single maybe??

thanks for the update btw :)

I bet that it will be :)

SURREAL__RAINBOW 15th August 2009 01:15 PM

^oh well at least we all know that this single was weak... if it was a good single low sales would really upset me but is not the case this time

bluegie 15th August 2009 01:28 PM

^ agree with you both. If Days sold like that I would be really sad.. But for this one, meh I dun really care. It doesn't have the potential to break 100K on the first week anywayz..



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Originally Posted by KarenPang (Post 2060067)
yeah sorry I do know that NINKI figures doesn't equal to actual sales that a single/album will get in due time

I'm just saying that's all :laugh

but anyway oh wow I didn't realise how much hatred S/S has receive o_O

Yeah I know lol :P. I dun even know why I wrote a paragraph about NINKI when I know that you must know about it lol. Yeah I'm just weird today.

I dun, at least myself, hate the single. I guess I'm indifferent to it, and I dun extremely concern how well/poor it performs on the chart AS LONG AS ayu's getting another no. 1. I hope I would at least like it, but it's just hard to when everything is not up to standard.

Lately whenever I drive my old car, I put the old ayu cds and listen to all the tracks. I just finished LOVEppears and right now listening Duty. When I heard Far away, I was thinking how good it will be if ayu's releasing something like that.. And to tell you the truth when I didn't really like this song back in 2000. It's a normal song, but it has concept. The pv is plain, but it has a theme behind it... Anywayz, the thing I wanna say is.. I'm not wishing ayu to make old stuff.. I do wish her to invent something new with concepts (from the song, to the cover, and to the pv). Right now she's just doing something over and over, which is quite sad. We all know that she can make something great, it's just she choose to soften her music (ahh... yeah... her past work at emo and dark). It's either keep following her and praying for a good song as the next single, or just walk away. I kinda walked away in 2002, and came back to her music around mid 2003. I guess right now I'm not walking away, but just walking slowly... hoping that something she produced will make me running towards her asap :).

ayumisrael 15th August 2009 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by bluegie (Post 2060600)
Yeah I know lol :P. I dun even know why I wrote a paragraph about NINKI when I know that you must know about it lol. Yeah I'm just weird today.

I dun, at least myself, hate the single. I guess I'm indifferent to it, and I dun extremely concern how well/poor it performs on the chart AS LONG AS ayu's getting another no. 1. I hope I would at least like it, but it's just hard to when everything is not up to standard.

Lately whenever I drive my old car, I put the old ayu cds and listen to all the tracks. I just finished LOVEppears and right now listening Duty. When I heard Far away, I was thinking how good it will be if ayu's releasing something like that.. And to tell you the truth when I didn't really like this song back in 2000. It's a normal song, but it has concept. The pv is plain, but it has a theme behind it... Anywayz, the thing I wanna say is.. I'm not wishing ayu to make old stuff.. I do wish her to invent something new with concepts (from the song, to the cover, and to the pv). Right now she's just doing something over and over, which is quite sad. We all know that she can make something great, it's just she choose to soften her music (ahh... yeah... her past work at emo and dark).

I agree with everything you said.
Sparkle though was something new to ayu (at least in the electro style) and it's one of her best up-beat songs imo though that's really the only something new she did putting an a full album that is electro influenced and it had a theme but I think that it's potential went down the toilet since it wasn't hit-ted with album hits and 3 hit single songs aren't enough (Sparkle, Days, Rule). NEXT LEVEL got lost in translation, mainly arrangements, PVs and maybe lyrics wise too even though deep lyrics aren't a neccesaty for me unless if they are pure crap and all rubbish. It's easy for me to relate to all kinds of lyrics.
Even though NEXT LEVEL had some random deeps and concepts behind it but yeah.
Execution.

Without getting in too much details I hope ayu will make some grandiose stuff again. I like what she does, but it wouldn't hurt to get smashing hits from her from time to time =D.
She does that once a year with one song but it's not enough and it's not getting special recongnisions always for some different and other reasons.
(I still think that Sparkle is one of the most under-rated single songs she has at least general public-wise).

KarenPang 15th August 2009 02:10 PM

some people are not realistic period . They expect that singles & albums are able to sell just as well as what happened 10 years ago :rolleyes

for me & to me , as long as she continues her #1 streak , who cares about sales ? she has enough $ to feed herself for the rest of her life

& with that , I rest my case

hopefully in the next 2 days to come , sales will go up slightly since it's usually known that after an artiste performed on MUSIC STATION , sales tend to improve to a certain extent

TITANIC 15th August 2009 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by ayumisrael (Post 2060568)
Why not? XD
The #1 streak will continue and it might outsell talkin' 2 myself. ^^
The songs (mainly Sunrise) also do good on the recochoku charts.

yEAH.. Thats not what i'm disapointing....
I mean the sales 1st week horrible. If Rule/Sparkle could hit 95K in 1st week, S/S must be higher or at least same because we all know R/S release excatly only 1 month before NL release...

ayumisrael 15th August 2009 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by riozz (Post 2060657)
yEAH.. Thats not what i'm disapointing....
I mean the sales 1st week horrible. If Rule/Sparkle could hit 95K in 1st week, S/S must be higher or at least same because we all know R/S release excatly only 1 month before NL release...

Yes but still, it's been half a year since the single was released and as time passes (and nothing special is being created or doesn't happen) the sales go down... It's the normal drop between summer singles since 2004..
It's sad that sales can't be like few years ago at the moment but oh well. =\
We will have to be satisfied with the decent sales it gets.

freedreamer 15th August 2009 03:26 PM

garhh whoa...first time seeing her under the #1 since HEAVEN...but im really glad the fall isnt big...hopefully tmr it'll be better...

njanjayrp 15th August 2009 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by freedreamer (Post 2060679)
garhh whoa...first time seeing her under the #1 since HEAVEN...but im really glad the fall isnt big...hopefully tmr it'll be better...

you mean Mirrorcle World.

SunshineSlayer 15th August 2009 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by ayumisrael (Post 2060573)
Why won't people get used to the new "good/decent" standarts?

Because this at the very least should sell more than Rule.


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