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ALfromHELLSING 2nd March 2014 05:42 PM

She's got Dead or Alive size boobs in that Vivi shot. Hot mama.

Received my copy of the album & JAPONESQUE live. Cardboard sleeve makes packages look so epic. It's also cool that JAPONESQUE Limited Edition Blu-ray comes in the DVD size case.

Loving the album, kinda reminds me of grow into one which I love. And it is different from her previous albums, no SUPERSTAR or Stay or everyday like songs. Let's show tonight is such a waste of a great song, comes right before interlude and only 10 seconds longer. Weird.

happiholic★ 3rd March 2014 03:40 AM

^Where in Toronto do you live? Hopefully close by, so I can break in and steal all your Kuu stuff! (Just kidding :P)

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Originally Posted by SKYia (Post 3064944)
Off the topic, but what's that Pucca game you have there? I like Pucca but all the games I tried so far were not interesting.

The games are Pucca Classic and Pucca Speed. They are cute games where you have to tap things from biggest to smallest, and the biggest one before it goes off screen, respectively.

abestfah 3rd March 2014 01:41 PM

Today she's at No.6 on Oricon but more surprising is no.1 get 14000+ sold, following by 2000+ of Baby Mental at no.2. I'm scared she can't get no.1 ><

Zeke. 3rd March 2014 01:56 PM

Guess it's safe to say she won't be "going to the top" with this album. Say Bon Voyage to #1! Lol.

brener 3rd March 2014 01:56 PM

Oricon Album Top 5 for next week (estimative)

#1 Koda: 40,040 + 3x

#2 SUPER JUNIOR DONGHAE & EUNHYUK (RIDE ME): 35,452 + 3x

#3 BABYMETAL: 29,040 + 3x

#4 Yuzu: 28,036 + 2x

#5 Drama (Uta no Prince-Sama Gekidan Shining JOKER TRAP): 22,210 + x

She might get that #1.

I thought 'Bon Voyage' was going to outsell 'LOVE again' which charted for only 5 days on its first week and sold 53,065 copies. Koda might end up selling around 45~49k.

~StarCatcher~ 3rd March 2014 02:31 PM

I think you don't have to be so into that sale numbers.

The most copies are sold digitally nowadays anyway, especially with Kumi!

brener 3rd March 2014 02:33 PM

What's wrong discussing Oricon numbers? '-' Billboard Japan doesn't reveal their digital+physical copies like USA's does, so I think there's nothing wrong to talk about Oricon numbers.

~StarCatcher~ 3rd March 2014 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by brener (Post 3065172)
What's wrong discussing Oricon numbers? '-' Billboard Japan doesn't reveal their digital+physical copies like USA's does, so I think there's nothing wrong to talk about Oricon numbers.

That should have been no critic:)
Nothing wrong with it, but I think it is not that imprtant like the album itself.

It is really a pitty that there are no releases of the Japanese digital sales:yes

Corvina 3rd March 2014 03:38 PM

It`s close, but with calculating the numbers, she should get No.1.

ILoveGeniuses 3rd March 2014 03:45 PM

IMO, I think how Billboard does it in America makes most sense with including sales of both physical & digital together. Let's face it, no matter what part of the world you're in, people just don't buy physical CDs anywhere near as much as we used to. With the technology we just don't need to either, and even bonuses like post cards, posters etc aren't really enough most of the time for majority of people to invest in the physical copies. I really think Oricon should start including both. It'd also show the real most accurate sales on an album or single.

TBH, overall I really couldn't care who is on top. I just listen to what I like and leave it at that, but it is nice to see accurate numbers if I do take a look. :)

CoriKaru 3rd March 2014 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Zeke. (Post 3065167)
Guess it's safe to say she won't be "going to the top" with this album. Say Bon Voyage to #1! Lol.

*Dead*

Delicious n Bold 3rd March 2014 04:37 PM

It'll be a mess if Bon Voyage sells less than love again.
But regardless, at least kumi brought the goods with the final song. Usually the last song is the worst of the album, but for kumi, it's the best song.

ren'ai 3rd March 2014 07:39 PM

Bon Voyage is #1 on Oricon Weekly with around 46k first week

http://www.oricon.co.jp/news/2034678/full/

Not too bad I guess, was hoping for atleast 50k first week

ILoveGeniuses 3rd March 2014 07:40 PM

^*Goes to order 50,000 copies from CDJAPAN* :P

KuuXAyu-fan 3rd March 2014 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Zeke. (Post 3065167)
Guess it's safe to say she won't be "going to the top" with this album. Say Bon Voyage to #1! Lol.

You spoke too soon. ;)

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Originally Posted by brener (Post 3065168)
I thought 'Bon Voyage' was going to outsell 'LOVE again' which charted for only 5 days on its first week and sold 53,065 copies. Koda might end up selling around 45~49k.

It's not really fair to compare Love Again to Bon Voyage since LA was last year and we know how much of a difference a year makes for Ayu and Kuu. It'll be completely fair to compare Ayu's new studio album this year to Bon Voyage though. Still I'm glad to see both go #1 regardless of sales. :)

adantatu2 3rd March 2014 09:20 PM

It's nice to see Kuu on the top, congratz Kucchiee !!

ayumisrael 3rd March 2014 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by KuuXAyu-fan (Post 3065231)
You spoke too soon. ;)



It's not really fair to compare Love Again to Bon Voyage since LA was last year and we know how much of a difference a year makes for Ayu and Kuu. It'll be completely fair to compare Ayu's new studio album this year to Bon Voyage though. Still I'm glad to see both go #1 regardless of sales. :)

But people always overlook that it was ayu's 14th album (+after 2 minis) and 12 years after her peak, while it's kuu's 11th album and 6 years after her peak.

They are pretty much on the same boat, the general public in japan don't care for them anymore and they are sustained mainly by fans. As much as it hurts to say or even think so about ayu and kuu. It's not like it changes our love to them anyway.

Congrats on the #1 =D.

KuuXAyu-fan 3rd March 2014 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by ayumisrael (Post 3065239)
But people always overlook that it was ayu's 14th album (+after 2 minis) and 12 years after her peak, while it's kuu's 11th album and 6 years after her peak.

They are pretty much on the same boat, the general public in japan don't care for them anymore and they are sustained mainly by fans. As much as it hurts to say or even think so about ayu and kuu. It's not like it changes our love to them anyway.

Congrats on the #1 =D.

Kuu's best seller was in 2005 which was 9 years ago. And you are right it doesn't change our love from them at all. :) I still think Ayu and Kuu can both do well with their next best albums so they could still have one big seller left in them but lets see.

happiholic★ 3rd March 2014 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by ILoveGeniuses (Post 3065186)
IMO, I think how Billboard does it in America makes most sense with including sales of both physical & digital together. Let's face it, no matter what part of the world you're in, people just don't buy physical CDs anywhere near as much as we used to. With the technology we just don't need to either, and even bonuses like post cards, posters etc aren't really enough most of the time for majority of people to invest in the physical copies. I really think Oricon should start including both. It'd also show the real most accurate sales on an album or single.

TBH, overall I really couldn't care who is on top. I just listen to what I like and leave it at that, but it is nice to see accurate numbers if I do take a look. :)

People don't buy music these days, period :laugh

But, seriously, you make a very valid point. Considering that digital music is one of the few places where you DO get a discount for going digital (*cough* unlike video games *cough*), its a strong incentive for people who do like to buy music to choose that method. Coupled with the fact that its sooooo easy to back up music (*cough* again like video games, with their limited number of re-downloads *cough*), there is very little risk. Its no different then buying an album. You can even get digital versions of the album art, which you can put on various devices. At some point, I honestly don't think that physical copies will even be relevant anymore.

ayumisrael 3rd March 2014 11:40 PM

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Originally Posted by KuuXAyu-fan (Post 3065241)
Kuu's best seller was in 2005 which was 9 years ago. And you are right it doesn't change our love from them at all. :) I still think Ayu and Kuu can both do well with their next best albums so they could still have one big seller left in them but lets see.

Just for the record it was on September which is still not 9 years (I forgot it's 2014), ayu's A BEST was 13 years ago this month, but it really doesn't matter at this point talking about present populaity.

Namie is the only of the past divas that can still sell and the public is interested in, but she is pretty much going slowly on the same path as the other two. Besides general sales declining (and appartely digital too), tours are the most profitting thing they can do, and Japan has no top solo female (at least a new one), that is like the past ones or at ARASHI/AKB interest of the japanese public. kyaripamyupamyu is to an extent but isn't, kana went down already as well unfortunately (I love her).

I'm glad that kuu still releases the Driving Hit's.


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