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terra 14th April 2015 05:53 PM

^I don't expect her to just magically have new ones since it should've been noticed if the CDL is kinda lavish than a usual CDL standard then there's gonna be recycling. And she did recycle CDL to AT in the past like AT04 or HLS, or AT07 in a way. AT09 is not that similar to PCDL imo.

But after seeing what she did last year, at least by changing the songs from CDL ~Feel the love~ to what was presented for Premium Showcase, I had hope that the occurrence will happen again. Granted same stage obviously but different clothing or she only keep under 30~40% of the previous CDL songs. So it's not surprising for me if people complained about why there's still Duty, Microphone, GAME, my name's WOMEN, 1 LOVE, Last minute, forgiveness and progress in the AT.

I just hoped it's because she hasn't had the time to choose new songs for the tour, and then she'll give us the revamp version later. Amen to that.

Gustavopc 14th April 2015 06:57 PM

tbh it's been years since she's recycling some stuff from her CDL for the tours... The thing is that for this one there were like 5 identical performances in a row :tired She could have switched some songs idk

//ABEST 14th April 2015 07:13 PM

yeah of course she is recycling some of the performances but this is too much imo

i'll pass this and CDL14-15 and act like they never happened, lol :D dying to see Anything for You tho

SKYia 14th April 2015 08:04 PM

I think some of us treat Arena Tours and CDL as a release, so CDL is a dvd and AT is a dvd (like one and one, equal things) and since we had seen something (song, dance routine, costume, screen, interlude) already during CDL we don't really need this again in AT, BUT maybe Ayu sees her CDLs and ATs as events and as an event something that was shown during CDL was only shown three times (so not that many) and if Ayu thinks it was great maybe she simply wants more people to see it.

You can rewatch concerts at home but imagine if there was no dvds and you really liked something from CDL, wouldn't you want to see it again during AT?

Maybe that's how Ayu sees it since I don't think she rewatches her dvds like we do. Some of us don't even go to concerts so for those people if they have it on dvd they don't need it again but if you are concert participant you may want to see it again. Just my thought.

Andrenekoi 14th April 2015 08:14 PM

Among 27 songs she re-used 7 songs entirely and 1 performance for another song. Take all of that out and you get 19 new performances... Counting medleys as just one performance and not counting interludes:

PSC - 18 performances
AT13 - 20 performances
AT12 - 21 performances
AT11 - 19 performances
AT10 - 21 performances
AT09 - 21 performances
AT08 - 17 performances
AT07 - 17 performances
AT06 - 19 performances
AT05 - 17 performances
AT03-04 - 17 performances
AT02 - 16 performances

Seriously. Stop crying.

Pieces_of_SEVEN 14th April 2015 08:37 PM

^^thank you

rikku1994 14th April 2015 10:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andrenekoi (Post 3132731)
Among 27 songs she re-used 7 songs entirely and 1 performance for another song. Take all of that out and you get 19 new performances... Counting medleys as just one performance and not counting interludes:

PSC - 18 performances
AT13 - 20 performances
AT12 - 21 performances
AT11 - 19 performances
AT10 - 21 performances
AT09 - 21 performances
AT08 - 17 performances
AT07 - 17 performances
AT06 - 19 performances
AT05 - 17 performances
AT03-04 - 17 performances
AT02 - 16 performances

Seriously. Stop crying.


THIS. Like just enjoy the damn show and stop being so damn serious all the time :shakehead

Andrenekoi 15th April 2015 02:21 AM

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Originally Posted by SKYia (Post 3132730)
I think some of us treat Arena Tours and CDL as a release, so CDL is a dvd and AT is a dvd (like one and one, equal things) and since we had seen something (song, dance routine, costume, screen, interlude) already during CDL we don't really need this again in AT, BUT maybe Ayu sees her CDLs and ATs as events and as an event something that was shown during CDL was only shown three times (so not that many) and if Ayu thinks it was great maybe she simply wants more people to see it.

You can rewatch concerts at home but imagine if there was no dvds and you really liked something from CDL, wouldn't you want to see it again during AT?

Maybe that's how Ayu sees it since I don't think she rewatches her dvds like we do. Some of us don't even go to concerts so for those people if they have it on dvd they don't need it again but if you are concert participant you may want to see it again. Just my thought.

She seens them as events and not as products because +-20k people, mostly collectors buys her concert dvds while 300K+ people watches her live every year.

hayasaki 15th April 2015 04:14 AM

And not everyone who'll attend the tour had been to the CDL nor watched the TV version or DVD version. So it won't matter anyway. xD

terra 15th April 2015 04:14 AM

^^ofc when seeing it like that, people will see her AT than her CDL, and by repeating unique performances she'll letting everyone see it which is a really nice gesture.

Quote:

Originally Posted by SKYia (Post 3132730)
I think some of us treat Arena Tours and CDL as a release, so CDL is a dvd and AT is a dvd (like one and one, equal things) and since we had seen something (song, dance routine, costume, screen, interlude) already during CDL we don't really need this again in AT, BUT maybe Ayu sees her CDLs and ATs as events and as an event something that was shown during CDL was only shown three times (so not that many) and if Ayu thinks it was great maybe she simply wants more people to see it.

You can rewatch concerts at home but imagine if there was no dvds and you really liked something from CDL, wouldn't you want to see it again during AT?

Maybe that's how Ayu sees it since I don't think she rewatches her dvds like we do. Some of us don't even go to concerts so for those people if they have it on dvd they don't need it again but if you are concert participant you may want to see it again. Just my thought.

Nicely put, I agree with this opinion. As a person who could've only wish to see her live and collects her DVD releases I would've dreamed that the thing that I'll watch live is sth new from what I have seen in my repeat DVD watching days.

And yes, I remember an interview or some sort saying that Ayu wanted some of the PCDL performance to be enjoyed by more people thus why she include In The Corner, HOPE or PAIN, and SIGNAL to AT09 setlist.

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I just looooove the performance on the moon how can anyone be upset because she uses it again? It's soooo lovely and I loved it in CDL :love *well maybe because it was my first Ayu live ;)*

Gustavopc 15th April 2015 10:37 AM

I didn't say there were not new performances, I just said there was a bunch of them in a row, and sorry if you don't get bothered by this but I get. People react differently to things, not everyone will stop and count the number of performances out of things :P

Aderianu 15th April 2015 10:43 AM

I like only Duty and A song for outfits. Wonder how many of them Ayu will keep until last day

AyuGAME 15th April 2015 10:59 AM

^i think by the end of the tour...most of her simple CDL outfit will changed, because it won't look good on dvd...

maybe they will keep duty costume because its extravagant and big, the rest could be change

i wonder what is that green spiral thing in the middle

Aderianu 15th April 2015 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by AyuGAME (Post 3132910)
i wonder what is that green spiral thing in the middle

looks like many hoops

Ryusei 15th April 2015 12:11 PM

tbh I think the least people go to both CDL and AT so I think it doesn't even matter to most people and I think ayu is not very concerned about it

AyUmIXx 15th April 2015 12:33 PM

wow i love the opening outfit.. that's different from CDL.. and also 1 LOVE outfit that s so sexyyyyyyy!

YukiUsagi 15th April 2015 12:36 PM

Ayu looks so beautiful in white :luv2:luv2:luv2

melissalove 15th April 2015 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Aderianu (Post 3132906)
I like only Duty and A song for outfits. Wonder how many of them Ayu will keep until last day

I think the red dress will change and probably the encore short shorts. The red dress could change to black because of the last minute video. And ayu always rotates encore attire. This is all just me guessing.

zellyx 15th April 2015 04:22 PM

damn, this tracklist is amazing.


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