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marekcarey 2nd December 2014 06:58 PM

and the previews are bad for me :( i love hikki's experimental style, a this jazz influenced music just doent feel right with them :(

Delirium-Zer0 2nd December 2014 06:58 PM

Honestly if I were ayu I wouldn't touch "Movin' on without you" so soon after Ayaka kicked so much ass at it. Ayaka's cover is REALLY killer, one of the best tracks on her cover album.

Now, I MOSTLY understand the choice - I wanted Ayu to pick a song that she related to, that she'd actually FEEL when she sang. One look at the lyrics to this track in the context of Ayu's discography, and this is clearly a song that she relates to. The princess/glass slipper metaphor is one she's used before. The topic of getting over being neglected/rejected/friendzoned is a topic Ayu has written about. She can sing the song from a personal point of view rather than singing it as a Hikki cover. So those are pluses.

As far as whether the song's SOUND suits Ayu, I find that has little bearing on the way a cover version ever sounds, at least most of the time. You have no idea what an artist is gonna do with it. On this album already, I've heard the few clips available, and the tracks made available bear LITTLE resemblance to the original songs - Yosui Inoue's beach/island pop/rock version of "Sakura Drops" is a very creative take on the song, and Shiina Ringo's jazzy version of "Letters" sounds like it was always her song to begin with. Sometimes the artist doing a cover hears a quality in the song that we never noticed before - a mournful tone, a bit of melody that was amazing but not emphasized enough, an optimistic mood hidden in the depths of a sad ballad. Things like that. A good cover version can really bring those qualities out, you know? Those covers make you hear the original song differently when you listen again later.

Ayu's covers, though... for awhile now they've just been her taking a song & giving it the "ayu sound" when Ayu herself seems to have a somewhat feeble grasp lately on what exactly "ayu sound" means. Back in the day, before Ayu's discography was quite so sprawling, pinpointing "make it sound like Ayu" was probably much easier - She & her producers really did something creative & cool with "Someday My Prince Will Come." Her live version of "haru yo, koi" is absolutely beautiful and IMHO more emotionally effective than Yuming's original. But her covers lately have felt very flat & dated. Rather than bringing older songs into the present, it's more like she tried to awkwardly escort them into the present only for them to fall down spectacularly. Try as she might to drag those songs kicking & screaming into the "ayu sound," they're unsure of which direction to go and the result is a track that makes as much of a contribution to the music world as a fanmade MIDI file with her vocals on top of it.

The SONG is not the problem here - Ayaka's cover of "Movin' on without you" does show that the song can sound fresh while still being the same exact song in every way that matters, I don't see Ayu being able to accomplish that without just sounding really, really dorky.

~Matt~ 2nd December 2014 07:09 PM

Ayu's comment from Barks:

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4. 浜崎あゆみ/「Movin’ on without you」(2ndシングル/1999年2月17日リリース)
今回のこのオファーを頂いた際、素直に『ヒカルちゃんの曲を歌ってみたい!』とワクワクした自分が居たので 快諾させて頂きました。 選曲については、私的にヒカルちゃんとのリリースタイミングが近かったり等の理由で当時よく耳にしていた、 思い出のある「Movin' on without you」をチョイスさせて頂きました。今でもこの曲を聴くと、あの頃の日々が鮮明に蘇ります。
更にアレンジを最近一緒に音を創っているRedOneチームと共にリアレンジして、原曲とはまた違った側面 と魅力がプラスされたテイストになっていると思いますので、ヒカルちゃんはもちろんのこと、多くの人に楽し んでもらえるとうれしいです。
The RedOne production team arranged the cover :D

Irish_Ayu_Fan 2nd December 2014 07:17 PM

it was arranged by RedOne....?

Now I'm excited for it :D

orangeakira 2nd December 2014 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by ~Matt~ (Post 3107034)
The RedOne production team arranged the cover :D

Oh lord, its going to sound like XOXO then probably.

Coelacanth 2nd December 2014 07:24 PM

LOVE what the RedOne team did with XOXO.

just listened to the original version of the song for the first time... the melodies in Utada's songs are SO boring and flat, so I'm really not that excited for this lol

DonkeyKongRemix 2nd December 2014 08:24 PM

Oh man, I could actually totally imagine her singing Movin' on Without You. And Shiina Ringo doing Letters is like the coolest thing I've heard for a while.

mizuki-7 2nd December 2014 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Delirium-Zer0 (Post 3107032)
But her covers lately have felt very flat & dated. Rather than bringing older songs into the present

It's not like she covered tons of songs lately or in her entire career ... lol
If you ask me SEVEN DAYS WAR flows very well with the sound and the ambience she wanted to give to Love songs reminiscent of the 80's and 90's ! Dated maybe but it was done on purpose IMO ^^

ayumisrael 2nd December 2014 08:42 PM

Is there a preview for ayu's Movin' on without you or only the youtube previews?

Kazeyomi 2nd December 2014 08:47 PM

Meh, Movin' on without you isn't among my favorites from Hikki. But it doesn't mean Ayu couldn't make a good cover of it though.
And I listened to the few previews from Youtube so far. Some arrangements are really cool imo.

visionfactory 2nd December 2014 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Coelacanth (Post 3107039)
LOVE what the RedOne team did with XOXO.

just listened to the original version of the song for the first time... the melodies in Utada's songs are SO boring and flat, so I'm really not that excited for this lol


Utada's career is boring and flat XD imo just her english career is worth it

I feel Movin' on + RedOne = not good lol

errikkutrancex 2nd December 2014 08:48 PM

You can all listen to the previews on Hikki's youtube account :
https://www.youtube.com/user/hikki/videos

I'm not very convinced on this album... :( looking forward to listen to the Ayu's version...

tenshi no hane 2nd December 2014 08:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ~Matt~ (Post 3107034)
Ayu's comment from Barks:

The RedOne production team arranged the cover :D

I love that Ayu calls her "Hikaru-chan"

I didn't expect her choice but I'm really looking forward to it.

krtman2002 2nd December 2014 09:17 PM

RedOne? Ummm... this is interesting. XOXO is one of my favourite songs of Colours!

mi|kshake 2nd December 2014 09:31 PM

I love how it's an unexpected song choice and also not a song I dislike (First Love).

primavera♥ 2nd December 2014 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by amorphose (Post 3107021)
Ayu doing Movin' on without you and Shiina doing Letters? This is gonna be so great. :heart

Ikr?

Movin on without you and Letters are both two of my favorite hikki songs. Definitely top 5. And I was certain they wouldn't be included. But not only are they included, but they are being covered by the two ladies who I'm most excited about being on this album.

hayasaki 2nd December 2014 10:19 PM

RedONE??? OMG!!! Me and her must be joking .. ahaa---.

LOL Anyway, i was expecting a different song but anyway, as much as I love movn on without you, i can't wait what ayu has prepared!

I wished it's more A-rock inclinced and then... RedONE :/

ayujarl 2nd December 2014 10:54 PM

Excellent. Can't wait to hear it!!!

kotora 2nd December 2014 11:29 PM

RedOne???! Ayu, why can't you do this to yourself.. RedOne Rearranged your old popular songs and sell that album and rediscovering yourself...

emi♡ 2nd December 2014 11:59 PM

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Originally Posted by visionfactory (Post 3107053)
Utada's career is boring and flat XD imo just her english career is worth it

that is the weirdest thing I've ever heard about hikki.


I'm a little disappointed for this song tbh. I wanted one of hikki's more interesting songs, but of course it would be one of the R&B era ones.


I wonder about Ayu's ability to hit these notes at the tempo and be able to pronounce the words.


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