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TheRainbow 2nd January 2017 05:05 PM
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Originally Posted by snowo (Post 3227711)

cry. like I'm doing now.

I mean... is she trying to keep the attention off of her? what does this even means?

http://imgur.com/HpDufUP.png

they're just climbing into each other and then flailing around spinning and doing nothing meaningful. so annoying. I've had a period when I didn't watch her concerts from PoM to PREMIUM SHOWCASE and I feel like I'm going into another phase like that. so tired of seeing her surrounded with lots of unnecessary dancers.
No clue. If it helps, I don't recall it being as obnoxious in the new CDL haha (I rather liked it actually!).

My favorite of her performances are very toned down--especially kanariya and this performance of Sorrows:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=doYvRXwFPiI

hud 2nd January 2017 05:16 PM
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Originally Posted by TheRainbow (Post 3227715)
No clue. If it helps, I don't recall it being as obnoxious in the new CDL haha (I rather liked it actually!).

My favorite of her performances are very toned down--especially kanariya and this performance of Sorrows:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=doYvRXwFPiI

I didn't watch this years' CDL yet, just kanariya. the file is too big for me, but I'm sure I'll cringe a lot when I watch it.

yep, those performances are top notch. that TA TOUR opening with Sorrows really surprised me.

Uknow! 2nd January 2017 05:23 PM
^^ This performance is epic. I love the end, when she approaches to the audience.

RealLight 2nd January 2017 05:55 PM
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Originally Posted by pedronekoi (Post 3227714)
Most of the times I feel like the choreographies have no meaning and sometimes it's embarassing to watch :P But during this CDL the dancers were really nice to have on stage. And thank god there's no monkey anymore.
I agree.

Andrenekoi 2nd January 2017 06:51 PM
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Originally Posted by snowo (Post 3227701)

just watched both concerts and ugh, she needs to fire some dancers/performers. there's TOO MUCH going on while she sings. I want to see HER and they keep changing the camera to show dancers or a performer dressed like a fucking monkey, like??? enough already. that is not cute in any way, it's cringey.

edit: and this... omg... the worst thing I've seen in a while.
http://i.imgur.com/0Upt5xm.png

the cringy dancers' acting, her outfit, the cute voice... it just couldn't get any
worse

edit 2: WHY IS THIS FUCKING MONKEY BEHIND HER ON MARIONETTE? I JUST... WHAT DOES IT HAVE TO DO WITH THE PERFORMANCE?
http://imgur.com/HxavFJT.png

I've had it. OFICIALLY
It was the year of the monkey on a concert set around japanese culture.... Not that hard to get.

TheRainbow 2nd January 2017 07:19 PM
^Didn't know that, thanks! Though again, he was pretty good in my book.

pedronekoi 2nd January 2017 07:28 PM
^ I really like him and the troupe that do the aerial performances! I feel like this year dancers was a really good team! Ayu seems to really love and connect with them :)

Uknow! 2nd January 2017 07:36 PM
I think the monkey represents Wukong (and he did the role pretty well). In MADE IN TOKYO the monkey was like a guide.

Before the performance monkey meets the man with a violet cloak and he tricks him into entering a house (door sound).

The monkey find several people spellbound like puppets and tries to help them. Then Ayu appears and he is the only one who is aware of the "spell" along with her.

When Ayu enters into the "cage" she tries to escape and at the end of the performance he is trying to save Ayumi but he can't and it ends with Ayu converted to a Marionette.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C1MIMwsXEAATXsC.jpg

In MADE IN JAPAN, Ayu represents Amateratsu (I think) and the monkey has a more secondary paper.

_dandy_ 2nd January 2017 08:58 PM
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Originally Posted by melissalove (Post 3227589)
At this point I would rather her disappear and never come back.
What a horrible thing to say, just as we've finished off a year where a significant number of huge artists have unexpectedly *died*.

I'm sure the word you were looking for is "retire".

melissalove 2nd January 2017 09:59 PM
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Originally Posted by _dandy_ (Post 3227759)
What a horrible thing to say, just as we've finished off a year where a significant number of huge artists have unexpectedly *died*.

I'm sure the word you were looking for is "retire".
oh relax :rolleyes i dont want ayu or any other artist to die. Yes retire is what i meant. You can stop having a heart attack now.

ayu-michan 3rd January 2017 06:37 AM
Thank you Uknow! for the explanation of the monkey!

And I personally find the bunny costume funny and cute as hell

hud 3rd January 2017 04:33 PM

well sometimes one doesn't have the time to check on another culture to know some things "not that hard to get", but thanks guys for explaining.

the dancers are still annoying af though.

AyuCanada 3rd January 2017 04:46 PM
I started to be a fan in the (miss)understood era and even back then people were saying she was over and should retire.

maxikot 3rd January 2017 05:56 PM
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Originally Posted by AyuCanada (Post 3227825)
I started to be a fan in the (miss)understood era and even back then people were saying she was over and should retire.
Same here xD I'm a fan since the same period and got used to those comments so much they don't impress me any more at all :D

EndOfTheWorld 3rd January 2017 10:06 PM
I'd agree that the whole monkey thing isn't completely obvious. It was explained nicely though.:thumbsup
When I was watching I felt like he was playing a kind of character that kind of guides the story along.
But I think people are getting annoyed because of the dramatic negative attitude that the criticism was presented with. Can't bring negative energy into a conversation and expect people not to react in that same way.:no
But yes, don't make it a bigger deal than it is. There will always be fans in here that strangely have nothing positive to say.:confused

Andrenekoi 3rd January 2017 10:49 PM
^There's a lot of stuff that isn't completely obvious due to cultural differences and it's completely ok not getting everything... Actually I do learn a lot from discussions over here because my knowlegment of the japanese culture is pretty limited. But one thing is not getting it all, other is just regarding that as nonsense without even trying. It's disrespectful for Ayu as an artist and at some levels even to the Japanese culture.

melissalove 3rd January 2017 10:57 PM
Please relax everybody, and please no more name calling is childish. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. Let's all agree to disagree. Ps: I DONT WANT AYU TO RETIRE AT THIS POINT, BUT WHEN THE TIME COMES I HOPE SHE BOWS GRACEFULLY.
*please feel free to over analyze what I just said. :roflmao :roflmao

maxikot 4th January 2017 12:50 AM
Just an interesting thing. Ivy moment from Made in Tokyo Countdown is not from the 31 December - her dress is not stuck in the machinery :> I know it happened in the past but - just little sth ;-) And the red kimono is simply beautiful :o

kinix 4th January 2017 01:26 AM
additional info to the monkey, it's the zodiac year of the Monkey for 2016

Evan Odinson 4th January 2017 02:06 AM
I apologize if I offended someone with my post, I get tired of unjustified criticism towards ayu so my words may have sounded really harsh, sorry, honestly wasn't my inttention to be rude and/or a jerk, and as some of you have said let's relax and move on.

About the "monkey" topic, yes probably because it was the monkey year but also I think he clearly was a representation of Son Goku (japanese name for Sun Wu-Kong) and the other guy that is kinda dressed as a monk/warrior (you can see him pretty well on the prelude of the evolution performance) may was a representation of Erlang Shen, both were gods and fight each other pretty often, this is just my speculation tho

BTW the "monkey" guy's name is Riki Fujimaki, he's really nice, yesterday he replied me back and thanked me on IG for my congratulations message for CDL show


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