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nanakopy87 15th March 2010 05:18 AM

if they are doing that just to gain profit,they can actually open the fans club to international fans.i believe many international fans will join :P
other than that,i agree with maikaru

Zeke. 15th March 2010 05:30 AM

Ok well I would gladly pay the fee to join TA but...

I'M IN AMERICA.

I'm willing to pay but it wouldn't get me all of the perks of joining if I were in Japan. So it's kind of like, a disregard for us other fans...?

I Am... Aaron 15th March 2010 05:41 AM

I'm in the U.S. too and ABSOLUTELY would join TA if it was allowed. So I don't feel bad in the least for getting info or leaks from them.

That said however, I do NOT want to hurt Ayu in any way shape or form, and if she wants it kept to herself and TA I would have to try and respect that. Now I almost feel guilty. I love Ayu and appreciate her so much, and I don't want to go against her wishes...

asmAyumi1992 15th March 2010 06:13 AM

^yeah, you're right. I really wanna join TA very much. But if Ayu wanna keep it with the Japanese only also I wouldn't mind.

Misa-chan 15th March 2010 06:49 AM

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Originally Posted by truehappiness (Post 2276797)
Wow, uh... some TeamAyu members seem to be arguing on a BBS about how TeamAyu members leaked the covers and appear to be blaming each other for leaking it and stuff on overseas sites and so on when it should be "TeamAyu exclusive"....

-crazy-

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Originally Posted by all.night.raver (Post 2276902)
Wahh. Get over it TA. Lol.

Quote:

Originally Posted by rakeru (Post 2276923)
Wooooow. Because international fans can't be as dedicated as holy TA.

Not saying this because I'm in TA myself, but I don't understand all this sarcasm and TA-bashing.

http://img687.imageshack.us/img687/6647/64040779.jpg

This was the information update posted on TA site itself. The 3rd line says very very clearly: Jacket covers LIMITED to TA. Of course, when people still leak them after reading this, some members are going to get angry. It's like a direct violation of ayu's and avex's wishes.

Think about it, TA members pay to be the first to receive information and release updates. Whether they choose to leak it out, it's up to them. They have the right to withhold the information, and no one has the right to say they're stingy/selfish. They paid for the privilege, afterall, and it isn't cheap.

Same goes for her TA blog entries, they're supposed to be exclusive for TA members. That's why I always only post translations, never her original Japanese text. Even so, if I ever get found out, I'm 100% sure I'll lose my TA membership.

Yeah, I understand it's sort of unfair that TA is only limited to Japan, but that doesn't give us foreign fans any right to bash the members. At the end of the day, TA is exclusive (rightly so), and there's nothing anybody can do about it.

That's all.

truehappiness 15th March 2010 06:54 AM

My post was just bringing up the arguments that people were having after finding it on BBSes. It seemed to be getting pretty crazy before people stopped. I see where the TA members are coming from when they're a little irked about what's going on with information, but I suppose it happens a lot. It's the first time I've been reading this BBS during a release, so it was interesting imo.

nanakopy87 15th March 2010 06:58 AM

means the covers we saw yesterday is for TA members only?

truehappiness 15th March 2010 07:00 AM

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Originally Posted by nanakopy87 (Post 2277212)
means the covers we saw yesterday is for TA members only?

Yes...? That's usually the case for these early releases like for NEXT LEVEL's covers and etc...

Foyuki 15th March 2010 07:05 AM

usually TA will update covers some hours before official website(or at the same time)
But if TA added "LIMITED to TA"
then official update will be later than usual

nanakopy87 15th March 2010 07:07 AM

i see.does that means they might change the cover layout etc?

Foyuki 15th March 2010 07:13 AM

avex always do updates like"squeezing the toothpaste."
and they seem don't worry about ayu's sales volume.
=,=
I've never seen any ayu-rips leaked out in JP.

SKYia 15th March 2010 07:48 AM

for some reason I thought this 'limited to TA' means that they will get the album with those covers, and the rest of the world will get some others XD

ALPHY 15th March 2010 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by SKYia (Post 2277248)
for some reason I thought this 'limited to TA' means that they will get the album with those covers, and the rest of the world will get some others XD

Haha, same. I was thinking, "MOAR COVERS!"

WoWee 15th March 2010 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by trinka (Post 2276744)
Not majestic like secret, not flashy like NL, not gorgeous like Guilty but still passable, I mean look at Sunrise/set

To European for me!

that is not an european cover style,
it looks cheap: if they make an picure and photoshopped the background.

freedreamer 15th March 2010 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by truehappiness (Post 2276740)
The tracklist could be out in a day or two...

I pray for a 15/16 track album... -rubs hands together and prays-

HAHHA..actually..im thinking probably 19th or maybe the coming sunday.

Soo..those two covers are NOT the official covers?! o dear...i realy like the cd+dvd wan..hopefully we get something better..
Im thinking those will pop up this week..

AyUmIXx 15th March 2010 08:25 AM

i think by "Jackets only limited to TA" means, it's ONLY TA members who are supposed to be the 1st to see the covers, and the rest of the world got to see it on days after~
i don't think there will be different covers?

well who knows~

Lady~Deviance 15th March 2010 08:34 AM

Now I'm totally confused. [even though it is not truly confirmed] TA members are receiving different jacket covers? If that is the case then I think they rightfully deserve it considering how much $$ they contribute to avex's and ayu's back accounts. (not trying to sound sarcastic)

Oh well.

Misa-chan 15th March 2010 08:43 AM

No, these are the jacket covers. The limited to TA means that it's only uploaded to the TA website so only members can see it first before the public (official website).

njanjayrp 15th March 2010 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Misa-chan (Post 2277206)
Think about it, TA members pay to be the first to receive information and release updates. Whether they choose to leak it out, it's up to them. They have the right to withhold the information, and no one has the right to say they're stingy/selfish. They paid for the privilege, afterall, and it isn't cheap.

Same goes for her TA blog entries, they're supposed to be exclusive for TA members. That's why I always only post translations, never her original Japanese text. Even so, if I ever get found out, I'm 100% sure I'll lose my TA membership.

That's pretty much true and I understand what you're trying to say. Japanese people generally seem to think that way, which is in a way a good thing.

However these are just the covers that everyone will get too see in a couple of days and we all know that the TA members do get their money's worth in many other ways (ie tour lotteries, extra bonuses, TA magazine...) which the majority of us can only dream about. So while I understand some might feel they got cheated in a way, I kinda think that the fact that the 2 very small pictures got leaked isn't that big of a deal :)

On the other hand it's pretty unfair that we don't get the chance to legally join TA from our countries.

Cherry Dynamite 15th March 2010 09:07 AM

I don't think it's unfair we don't get to join legally, After all Japan is her main market.


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