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Anna Willow 24th March 2010 06:17 PM

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Prancing around in a studded bra..lying in a jail with tape is NOT Ayu..that's GaGa.
That's actually a gazillion of truly original artists from a few years back, that Gaga rips-off to make some money and pose as an original thing for today's younger audience that has no knowledge of where did she took the ideas from. Sadly it works.

Crystal_Ageha 24th March 2010 06:18 PM

^ Yes, thank you. *coughMadonnacough*
Seriously, people need to get over GaGa's "originality". She stole Madonna's fashion and mixed it with Japanese. It's an insult to both Madonna and Japan, lol. D:

And--Ugggghhhh!!!!!!!!!!! 'Her costumes look like Lady GaGa', 'this song sounds like Namie'--FOR THE LOVE OF GOD STOP IT!!!! I swear I'm gonna have to shoot you people. :o This is a thousand times more annoying than the Britney conversation. :headache No, she doesn't look like GaGa (at least not from what I've seen--the Sexy little things preview was deleted, though :(), and she CERTAINLY doesn't sound an ounce like Namie, thank ****ing God.
Ugh!


Anyways...
I listened to each preview once.....And I'm kinda disappointed. :( count down seems to be really boring. Like, borderline BALLAD boring. :cry That's what I was most excited about now.... Sexy little things isn't what I was expecting at all... On the other hand, I do like it, and I think it'll grow on me even more. And Lady Dynamite sounds great. (I think it'll be my favourite of these three.) :yes

kumikomishitate 24th March 2010 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by SoldierofSilence (Post 2290960)
I've never thought she ever was. To be honest, I find majority of american music today (aside from a very few select artists) to all sound the same.

When discarding that bias, you can realize that the same applies for Japanese pop. Sure, there is a lot of crap on the Billboard 100, but in all honesty, a lot of that crap is 100x better than what's on the current Oricon chart. This is not directed at you, but I just feel the need to comment on embarrassed I feel when people hate on American music, but then glorify Japanese music just because it's Japanese and supposedly exotic.

ILoveGeniuses 24th March 2010 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by kumikomishitate (Post 2290995)
When discarding that bias, you can realize that the same applies for Japanese pop. Sure, there is a lot of crap on the Billboard 100, but in all honesty, a lot of that crap is 100x better than what's on the current Oricon chart. This is not directed at you, but I just feel the need to comment on embarrassed I feel when people hate on American music, but then glorify Japanese music just because it's Japanese and supposedly exotic.


Hey i agree. There is quite a bit that sounds the same out there on the Asian markets too. Trust me, I've found quite a bit. I honestly and personally don't think that Ikimonogakari for example sounds all that original. Also, I can't help but notice all the girl groups and boy bands to show up in Korea lately....

I've been listening to Jpop since 1997, so actually I find I also know some artists that many of the younger people today aren't familiar with. Like I was first there when like Namie and ELT were first starting out.

Also, i dont glorify it cause its Japanese or exotic in any way. To be perfectly honest, i think no matter where u go, whether it be music or anything else, theres always problems and such. And of course, with music, some of it is also opinion. I think about the oldest Asian artist i listen to and am quite a fan of (and not cause of anime tie-ins) is L'Arc~en~Ciel.

Also, something neat,(although off-topic) is I was about 6 years old when I was in Japan and saw the very first episode aired for the first time of Sailormoon.

everlastingRAINBOW 24th March 2010 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Crystal_Ageha (Post 2290992)
^ Yes, thank you. *coughMadonnacough*
Seriously, people need to get over GaGa's "originality". She stole Madonna's fashion and mixed it with Japanese. It's an insult to both Madonna and Japan, lol. D:

And--Ugggghhhh!!!!!!!!!!! 'Her costumes look like Lady GaGa', 'this song sounds like Namie'--FOR THE LOVE OF GOD STOP IT!!!! I swear I'm gonna have to shoot you people. :o This is a thousand times more annoying than the Britney conversation. :headache No, she doesn't look like GaGa (at least not from what I've seen--the Sexy little things preview was deleted, though :(), and she CERTAINLY doesn't sound an ounce like Namie, thank ****ing God.
Ugh!


Anyways...
I listened to each preview once.....And I'm kinda disappointed. :( count down seems to be really boring. Like, borderline BALLAD boring. :cry That's what I was most excited about now.... Sexy little things isn't what I was expecting at all... On the other hand, I do like it, and I think it'll grow on me even more. And Lady Dynamite sounds great. (I think it'll be my favourite of these three.) :yes

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PmCPq9mXQf8 The preview wasn't deleted.. ?


And I agree, I am sick and tired of the comparisons. They make no sense and just because Ayu is in a white room doesn't mean anything, it's just a white room for god's sake.. :no

Masamune 24th March 2010 06:45 PM

I checked the sexy little thing preview on youtube & it is too much for me...too Lady Gaga-style,anyway the sound is catchy...but why the people at the end of the video laughs so much...they are laughing on Ayu?:(

Anna Willow 24th March 2010 06:45 PM

Yes, music from any place of the world can "sound the same" depending on how you're willing to pay attention to it or not. But I get what SoldierofSilence means.

What bugs me is realizing that nowadays people just seem to have an urge to make comparisons and underestimate Ayu's creativity. It's really annoying, especially when their standard for "creativity" is Lady Gaga. I mean really, come on.

everlastingRAINBOW 24th March 2010 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Masamune (Post 2291019)
I checked the sexy little thing preview on youtube & it is too much for me...too Lady Gaga-style,anyway the sound is catchy...but why the people at the end of the video laughs so much...they are laughing on Ayu?:(

OMG :thud

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Originally Posted by Anna Willow (Post 2291020)
It's really annoying, especially when their standard for "creativity" is Lady Gaga. I mean really, come on.

Amen.

kumikomishitate 24th March 2010 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by SoldierofSilence (Post 2291025)
Well thanks. that avatar picture was taken last year.

My birthdate is August 8, 1985. I'll be 25 years old on my birthday this year.

And yes, I remember the Spice Girls first becoming popular too. I used to get together with kids and try doing the dances and such.

I also remember when Animaniacs first came out. I watched it everyday after school.

Interesting... by the way, where in Canada do you live? Edit: Yes, I do. But we might be straying way off topic now.


Back to Ayu-ness, as I listen to LD and the ad version of Don't Look Back, I can conclude that as of now, I do not like them very much. LD > DLB, but they're still meh to me. I do think that with an HQ version of LD that I can learn to love it, just like how I came to love EnergizE.

YuriChan 24th March 2010 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Anna Willow (Post 2291020)
What bugs me is realizing that nowadays people just seem to have an urge to make comparisons and underestimate Ayu's creativity. It's really annoying, especially when their standard for "creativity" is Lady Gaga. I mean really, come on.

OK! I make ONE comparison (mainly the room) and people think I'm comparing her left to right to Lady GaGa!!!! :headache

Mari-chan 24th March 2010 07:09 PM

I also watched the Youtube-Preview of Sexy LIttle things.
It is very... different.. sounds a little bit like Music from the 40th.
Is she wearing the same dress in Sexy little things and Microphone??? It looks very similar.
But.. well... seems like, I don't like that song until what I have heard.

Max_ZZZ 24th March 2010 07:12 PM

LOL honestly why are people getting mad?

i like lady gaga, and can see why someone would decide ayu's videos a gaga-esque. it doesn't mean gaga is a standard, it just means she left a definite image of something crazy she did in our minds LOL

it's the same way ayu songs remind us of other ayu songs, doesn't mean we hate the song or think it's unoriginal you just get the same feeling or impression!

agashi 24th March 2010 07:15 PM

=_= meh..why ppl comparing ayu with lady gaga..
gaga have their own style,
...and ayu's being creative in her new pv..She play with art..so many fashion influence on it
it just weird if you compare ayu style with gaga style..

Zeke. 24th March 2010 07:19 PM

Ok, nobody can deny that this PV really does scream GaGa. Seriously. It's not necessarily a bad thing, but it's totally GaGa.

Anna Willow 24th March 2010 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by HONEY_INSPIRE_ME19 (Post 2291036)
OK! I make ONE comparison (mainly the room) and people think I'm comparing her left to right to Lady GaGa!!!! :headache

It's not JUST about your comment, there's a lot of comparison going on. No need to make a fuss :D

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Ok, nobody can deny that this PV really does scream GaGa. Seriously. It's not necessarily a bad thing, but it's totally GaGa.
I disagree. Everything Gaga's doing now, I've seen before.

Zeke. 24th March 2010 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Anna Willow (Post 2291044)
It's not JUSTI disagree. Everything Gaga's doing now, I've seen before.

Regardless if it's been done before, GaGa is doing it. And Ayu is doing it. So if GaGa = what you've seen before and Ayu = what you've seen before, then Ayu = GaGa.

Anna Willow 24th March 2010 07:25 PM

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Regardless if it's been done before, GaGa is doing it. And Ayu is doing it. So if GaGa = what you've seen before and Ayu = what you've seen before, then Ayu = GaGa.
So Ayu = David Bowie? Yeah, don't think so.

kumikomishitate 24th March 2010 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Anna Willow (Post 2291044)
It's not JUST about your comment, there's a lot of comparison going on. No need to make a fuss :D


I disagree. Everything Gaga's doing now, I've seen before.

I love Lady GaGa, and believe she IS quite creative, but I do think that she may be heavily inspired by the Club Kid scene from the late 80s/early 90s. She for sure knows of James St James and Michael Alig. LOL

Zeke. 24th March 2010 07:27 PM

Lol, well GaGa = David Bowie? I'm just sick of everyone being frightened to death by GaGa comparisons. Any non-Ayu fan would totally see the PV and say "oh is this GaGa's new work?"

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Originally Posted by SoldierofSilence (Post 2291050)
Still, no offense to anyone, but I've seen plenty of artists over the years that only last so long. I think Gaga's a phase more than anything.

Just like back when i was in like grade 9, they were shoving HP in our faces. Yeah, theres still fans, but like everyone's obsessed with Twilight now.

Technically, anything and everything can be considered a phase. People need to stop dissing GaGa's creativity. Creativity always stems from somewhere. I'm not even a huge fan of GaGa. I like some of her songs and hated her when she first debuted (Just Dance was sick and Poker Face took me forever to warm up to).

Anna Willow 24th March 2010 07:32 PM

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People need to stop dissing GaGa's creativity.
Making a collage of other people's ideas is not what I think of as creativity.

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Lol, well GaGa = David Bowie? I'm just sick of everyone being frightened to death by GaGa comparisons. Any non-Ayu fan would totally see the PV and say "oh is this GaGa's new work?"
Even the lightning painted on Gaga's face is a carbon-copy of Bowie.
And I wouldn't say "frightened" more than "annoyed" and "fed up".

And like I said before, people that look at this and think about no-one besides Gaga probably are too young to understand who really is a standard for pop culture and originality. That's my point, period.

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Still, no offense to anyone, but I've seen plenty of artists over the years that only last so long. I think Gaga's a phase more than anything.
This.


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