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ayumisrael 23rd September 2010 11:41 AM

We already updated it on the last page haha =D

It's also official by oricon!
Great sales!

AyuGAME 23rd September 2010 11:42 AM

the drop is a lot...but i hope it will steady from now on until the rest of the week

AyUmIXx 23rd September 2010 11:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ayumisrael (Post 2496881)
We already updated it on the last page haha =D

It's also official by oricon!
Great sales!

bahaha sorry I didn't see the first page..
great sales..i hope it could go over 80K?
haha XD

AyumiBest 23rd September 2010 11:54 AM

Hopefully the drop won't be much tomorrow.

Heldin 23rd September 2010 11:57 AM

Wohooo!Go Ayu!Crossroad sells better than M/b!What will be further..

Nackar_91 23rd September 2010 12:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TITANIC (Post 2496821)
very good so far but the drop is very huge compared Kuu

Are you ever satisfied? Your posts always have such a negative tone >_<

This is great! It's doing better than MOON and it's already 20k ahead of Kuu. We always doubt her so much and she always pull through. We should have a bit more faith : P

TITANIC 23rd September 2010 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Nackar_91 (Post 2496893)
Are you ever satisfied? Your posts always have such a negative tone >_<

This is great! It's doing better than MOON and it's already 20k ahead of Kuu. We always doubt her so much and she always pull through. We should have a bit more faith : P

very satisfy, tbh I love MOON much moreeeee than crossroad so my prediction, crossroad would sell less than MOON but the fact is inverted so yah. :innocent

bluegie 23rd September 2010 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by TITANIC (Post 2496861)
Poker face, for my dear...are excluded from A BEST and Forgiveness, B&D/Pride, Daybreak are excluded from A BEST 2 because of the low sales. I believe 1 or 2 single will be excluded from A BEST 3 as well

I think ayu will exclude s/s first :innocent. and probly talkin' 2 myself... MOON's sales ain't that bad so it will be on the tracklist :P.

y_nathz 23rd September 2010 12:43 PM

great sales! I hope the drop won't be too much tomorrow..

jbrat2219 23rd September 2010 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by TITANIC (Post 2496894)
very satisfy, tbh I love MOON much moreeeee than crossroad so my prediction, crossroad would sell less than MOON but the fact is inverted so yah. :innocent

Should have bought more copies of MOON/blossom then. :P

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Originally Posted by bluegie (Post 2496899)
I think ayu will exclude s/s first :innocent. and probly talkin' 2 myself... MOON's sales ain't that bad so it will be on the tracklist :P.

No way in hell is Ayu excluding Sunrise from any best album, regradless of how the physical single sold. It was a digital hit and one of her best summer songs (in my opinion). talkin' 2 myself was already on a compilation so that "might" not make it.

bluegie 23rd September 2010 12:48 PM

The best solution for A BEST 3: include everything :P.

Aditmi Krisnasaki ~II~ 23rd September 2010 12:51 PM

keeps gettin' better~~

go ayu go!! :D :D

SURREAL__RAINBOW 23rd September 2010 12:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jbrat2219 (Post 2496904)
Should have bought more copies of MOON/blossom then. :P



No way in hell is Ayu excluding Sunrise from any best album, regradless of how the physical single sold. It was a digital hit and one of her best summer songs (in my opinion). talkin' 2 myself was already on a compilation so that "might" not make it.


LOL I agree with the first part XD


And about A BEST 3, I think she is going to add everything that's "best" from Secret until who knows where :P





Either way! Lets hope tomorrow's sales don't drop as much!! *o*

TITANIC 23rd September 2010 12:57 PM

haah.. true. hopefully all singles are included but Im still not sure. just MOON has to be there. I dont care about Blossom

Andrenekoi 23rd September 2010 01:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SURREAL__RAINBOW (Post 2496910)
LOL I agree with the first part XD


And about A BEST 3, I think she is going to add everything that's "best" from Secret until who knows where :P





Either way! Lets hope tomorrow's sales don't drop as much!! *o*

A Best 3 will take from (miss)understood album tracks on... *hopes for Ladies Night* xD

MissElin_ 23rd September 2010 01:33 PM

^(m)u album songs was already on A Best 2. So I would say Secret album and forward. Btw, did she say that she's planning a A Best 3 album or are we just dreaming away?

asmAyumi1992 23rd September 2010 01:47 PM

^ah~ about to ask the same thing XD

love in music 23rd September 2010 01:59 PM

it's nice to see that this single isn't selling less than the previous one. the drop was pretty huge, but she's still #1. i think that she is way too far ahead of kumi now for her to catch up.

ayumisrael 23rd September 2010 02:32 PM

There should be three options:

1. A BEST 3 starts from Bold & Delicious/Pride, think about it as the starting of the new ayu since she never had such songs in these styles or PVs so it's like her 3d era started with these.

2. A BEST 3 starts with Startin'/Born To Be... the 3rd era of ayu starts.

3. A BEST 3 stars with Days/GREEN since The first A-sides of the singles Bold & Delicious~Mirrocle World were all on A COMPLETE ~ALL SINGLES~.

So it's really hard to know. XD

SURREAL__RAINBOW 23rd September 2010 02:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ayumisrael (Post 2496987)
There should be three options:

1. A BEST 3 starts from Bold & Delicious/Pride, think about it as the starting of the new ayu since she never had such songs in these styles or PVs so it's like her 3d era started with these.

2. A BEST 3 starts with Startin'/Born To Be... the 3rd era of ayu starts.

3. A BEST 3 stars with Days/GREEN since The first A-sides of the singles Bold & Delicious~Mirrocle World were all on A COMPLETE ~ALL SINGLES~.

So it's really hard to know. XD


She has to add tracks from Secret and GUILTY I'm pretty sure. So the last option is a bit... not too possible? xD

AyuGAME 23rd September 2010 02:44 PM

i'm still hoping that she won't release best album next year...
i think 2012 will be perfect to do that...

sanzo2011 23rd September 2010 02:48 PM

I hope she won't add B&D/pride ! imo, they're both her worst songs ! hate them a lot , i bought (miss)understood and always skip them !

ayumisrael 23rd September 2010 02:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sanzo2011 (Post 2496994)
I hope she won't add B&D/pride ! imo, they're both her worst songs ! hate them a lot , i bought (miss)understood and always skip them !

I understand if you don't like the style, but the Bold & Delicious message is pretty cute afterall, she just wants you to shout and have fun with it.
(After reading the lyrics xD).

Pride is a nice gospel ballad, I prefer some other ballads too, it still tops Two of us and from your letter and the likes. =P

jbrat2219 23rd September 2010 02:59 PM

I'm not certain B&D or Pride will make it on the next best. I honestly hope she starts from GREEN/Days.

TITANIC 23rd September 2010 03:01 PM

Pride is totally awesome.it has such a magic magnet. I am pretty sure A BEST 3 starts from Secret era.

SURREAL__RAINBOW 23rd September 2010 03:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jbrat2219 (Post 2496999)
I'm not certain B&D or Pride will make it on the next best. I honestly hope she starts from GREEN/Days.

what about epic Secret and awesome GUILTY?? :cry

waterballoon 23rd September 2010 03:17 PM

she's doing amazing omg~!

joshohhhhh 23rd September 2010 03:20 PM

i hope she releases another original album before doing another compilation album.

*°wann_ayubabies°* 23rd September 2010 03:26 PM

i think this is a good sales start for Ayu ^-^

jbrat2219 23rd September 2010 03:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SURREAL__RAINBOW (Post 2497003)
what about epic Secret and awesome GUILTY?? :cry

Those singles were in A COMPLETE. I want a compilation of recent songs. And maybe even new ones! :D

Mirrorcle Monster 23rd September 2010 03:33 PM

She should still wait for a best album

SURREAL__RAINBOW 23rd September 2010 03:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jbrat2219 (Post 2497016)
Those singles were in A COMPLETE. I want a compilation of recent songs. And maybe even new ones! :D

But JEWEL, 1 LOVE, momentum, Marionette etc weren't singles! she will surely add those in a next best of :P she doesnt only add singles xD



and i agree that she should wait more for a next A BEST :yes

Andrenekoi 23rd September 2010 04:09 PM

A Best 2 covers evolution single to Bold & delicious/Pride... It doesn't cover (miss)understood album tracks on the same way A Best covered Poker Face to M without covering I am...
=) This was part of the A Best 2 announcements...

A Complete was a single collection, A Best is a "best of", it has album tracks and such... The next A Best will have for sure tracks that already were released on A Complete...

SpiceSquad! 23rd September 2010 05:29 PM

definitly #1... go ayu!!!

ayumisrael 23rd September 2010 06:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andrenekoi (Post 2497038)
A Best 2 covers evolution single to Bold & delicious/Pride... It doesn't cover (miss)understood album tracks on the same way A Best covered Poker Face to M without covering I am...
=) This was part of the A Best 2 announcements...

A Complete was a single collection, A Best is a "best of", it has album tracks and such... The next A Best will have for sure tracks that already were released on A Complete...

Technically A BEST 2 covers evolution~HEAVEN xDD

(That's one of the reasons for the 1st option I suggested earlier)

Andrenekoi 23rd September 2010 07:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ayumisrael (Post 2497111)
Technically A BEST 2 covers evolution~HEAVEN xDD

(That's one of the reasons for the 1st option I suggested earlier)

If I'm not wrong, she announced it would cover Bold & Delicious too, but the songs didn't make it into the album...

Ranma Matsuri 23rd September 2010 07:37 PM

Wow, very good Ayu! :-D It's already beating out the previous single's sales. Hope it's the same story for L next week. ^^

Quote:

Originally Posted by joshohhhhh (Post 2497011)
i hope she releases another original album before doing another compilation album.

Agreed. I don't even want to think about the next A BEST right now. Hopefully the gap between it and the last A BEST is as big as the one between the first two. XD

jbrat2219 23rd September 2010 07:45 PM

I guess it's because I didn't have most of the songs on A BEST or A COMPLETE so I felt they were worth the money... I got almost everything RAINBOW onward so A BEST 3 might not appeal to me unless she's going to do something special with it.

Mirrorcle 23rd September 2010 08:42 PM

Why is a talk about a third A Best album being discussed under the 49th and 50th single news thread?

Ranma Matsuri 23rd September 2010 08:50 PM

^Someone mentioned that they didn't want crossroad to outsell M/b because then the latter probably wouldn't appear on the next A BEST album... and... it just went from there. XD

bluegie 23rd September 2010 09:46 PM

yeap... and now people think that she's gonna release A BEST 3 soon because of that lol.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andrenekoi (Post 2497165)
If I'm not wrong, she announced it would cover Bold & Delicious too, but the songs didn't make it into the album...

Yeap, when A BEST 2 was announced, the web did say the songs would be covered from evolution till Bold & Delicious (the last single of (m)u). I was a bit shocked when neither of B&D/Pride went into A BEST 2. I hope they will be in A BEST 3 (if she's gonna release it a few years later), but I dun think they will include those two songs. Besides, B&D was already in A COMPLETE.

AyumiAi 23rd September 2010 10:08 PM

Great sales for Ayu! :3
im sure crossroad will experience more steady second week sales
due to the concert and due to L coming out.
Gooo Crossroad! :)

rakeru 23rd September 2010 11:19 PM

....or it may experience a huge dropout since everyone would rather buy the huge 50th single. Anyway, I have a good hope that crossroad will reach 75k at the end of this week.

Elednist 24th September 2010 12:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rakeru (Post 2497341)
....or it may experience a huge dropout since everyone would rather buy the huge 50th single. Anyway, I have a good hope that crossroad will reach 75k at the end of this week.

I have the same belief in the single, besides, I hope it won't pass much time until it reach 100k!

adantatu2 24th September 2010 02:52 AM

Yep, 100k is very possible!!!

Cherry Dynamite 24th September 2010 03:01 AM

Where did people get the idea she's gonna release A BEST 3 soon?
I don't see the need for her to release another best well at least not this year.
I'll totally be happy is she release it on her 15th anniversary?

agashi 24th September 2010 03:41 AM

lol, im not ready yet for A BEST 3 XD
^^ awesome chart for ayu as usual~ i think L single will be more high than crossroad :)

rakeru 24th September 2010 04:08 AM

^ I agree, there hasn't even been that much time between now and AB2. Maybe in 3 years or something, but before then, no.

butterfly_ayu 24th September 2010 04:31 AM

I'm so glad crossroad is selling better than moon/blossom~!!! :thud

Pieces_of_SEVEN 24th September 2010 04:46 AM

If you want to talk about BEST 3, please do it in the appropriate thread...
(and for the record, BEST 2 went up to B & D/Pride, so there is no reason that it would be on the the next best. It won't even be taken into consideration.)

Max_ZZZ 24th September 2010 05:43 AM

i'm sure avex will want ab3 out sooner then later.... while ayu is still able to sell 100k+

rainydayumi 24th September 2010 05:52 AM

according to the natsu blog this single could sell 75-80k on its first week!!

C+R+E+AYUMI 24th September 2010 07:24 AM

2nd day 54000 it seems going on well

brener 24th September 2010 07:25 AM

^

I believe that too.. =)

lividlillies 24th September 2010 08:34 AM

I read earlier in the thread that people buying Crossroad might affect L's sales when its released (next week). I ordered all three singles together, and I'm having them shipped together... will that affect the sales next week? Or would the Crossroad sale be counted in this week? (Since I bought it this week)

Someone said that she might destroy her own record with Crossroad taking #1, and that scared me a little! XD;

bluegie 24th September 2010 08:59 AM

^I dun think that will be the case. Just compare her recent sales and you will see that most of crossroad orders have been shipped already. Let's say if many crossroad being shipped next week, this week sales should be MUCH lower (like.. less than 40K for 2 days?). Also, most hardcore fans in Japan are TA member, so usually they will order cds via mumo (if they're ordering cds online). I heard that mumo separates crossroad and L shipments.

rusuke 24th September 2010 09:11 AM

^It also scares me a bit. But still I believe L will gonna make it.*Crossing fingers*

Nonetheless, I'm glad crossroad is doing good so far.

Tasked 24th September 2010 10:20 AM

This week's sales will be like 70-80k... L will probably also sell that much in it's first week... and since crossroad is not going to sell 70-80k in its 2nd week, L will definitely win.

Cherry Dynamite 24th September 2010 10:29 AM

LOL I think it's impossible crossroad will get number 1 next week.
You guys are worrying and thinking too much.

kagami 24th September 2010 10:54 AM

Yay!! That's better than I thought it'd do:D

ayumisrael 24th September 2010 10:56 AM

Blah!

Now since there are few people who posted different stuff on 2ch we need to wait for the official numbers from oricon. -_-

Tasked 24th September 2010 10:58 AM

Koda Kumi might get a #1 daily soon...BUT, she can definitely not get the #1-weekly from Ayu :)... And whoah, this single is doing slightly better than you'd expect..

ayumisrael 24th September 2010 10:59 AM

3rd Day
Position: #1
Sales: 6,454
Total Sales: 60,657

This is probably the real one. xD

kuu's sukidex2.../anata dake ga 3rd day: 4,475
total: 38,496

It's still higher than S/S & MOON's 3 days total (though S/S 3rd day was higher)

kagami 24th September 2010 11:02 AM

Aw, I hope the other one is real.

ayumisrael 24th September 2010 11:04 AM

Nah I'm convinced that the 2nd one I posted is real.
99%.

kagami 24th September 2010 11:05 AM

Damn xD. Oh well, still not bad.

ayumisrael 24th September 2010 11:07 AM

Yep. =D

MOON/blossom sold 13,985 in its first week last 3 days so if it can sell it or above it the first week of crossroad might be 75,000 or even 78,000!

sanzo2011 24th September 2010 11:12 AM

Hope that Kuu won't take #1 daily from Ayu ! i just want to see Ayu #1 for the whole week ^^!

joshohhhhh 24th September 2010 11:14 AM

nice job ayu! :)

bluegie 24th September 2010 11:15 AM

Not too bad, still has over 6000 copies on the 3rd day :).

ayumisrael 24th September 2010 11:16 AM

Well ayu is still first on jbook's real time chart.
kuu is #3 after EXILE's single.

#1 crossroad CD+DVD
#2 EXILE
#3 kuu's sukidex3.../anata dake ga CD+DVD
#11 EXILE
#17 crossroad CD B
#18 kuu's sukidex3.../anata dake ga CD
#19 crossroad CD C

EXILE might snatch the #2 daily from kuu but nothing is certain of course!

freedreamer 24th September 2010 11:17 AM

Wow cool! their gap is so near its starting to get scary haha..but i guess the sales will come to plateau eventually. Ayu still has 7days FINAL to promote

bluegie 24th September 2010 11:17 AM

^^Is EXILE overtaking kuu today?

ayumisrael 24th September 2010 11:18 AM

Well for today EXILE is #3 daily with around 3,000s and on the real time chart so far they are #2 and their cd only does better than kuu's cd only so they might snatch it.

I don't know if jbook covers all the stores that oricon does.
(I don't know much about jbook's). =P

bluegie 24th September 2010 11:21 AM

hmmn ok.. Well as long as ayu getting no. 1 I'm fine with exile or kuu battling for daily no. 2 :P

ayumisrael 24th September 2010 11:24 AM

3rd Day
Position: #1
Sales: 6,454
Total Sales: 60,657

This is probably the real one. xD

kuu's sukidex2.../anata dake ga 3rd day: 4,475
total: 38,496

Official by oricon~

TITANIC 24th September 2010 11:25 AM

As I love Ayu and Kuu, I wish Kuu can take over #1 daily at least 1 day

SmokikiE 24th September 2010 11:26 AM

Isn't Kuu releasing a special charm edition of 好きで、好きで、好きで。?

Aditmi Krisnasaki ~II~ 24th September 2010 01:11 PM

oh my, such a pretty big drop today...

but still #1!!

keep up the good work ayu!!!

break Seiko's record! :D :D

njanjayrp 24th September 2010 01:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SmokikiE (Post 2497759)
Isn't Kuu releasing a special charm edition of 好きで、好きで、好きで。?

That was the fan club press, already released as far as I know.

SURREAL__RAINBOW 24th September 2010 02:03 PM

so you think crossroad is going to get #1 weekly for sure now??


I just don't want it to sell TOO GOOD so then L can have its moment to shine too :inlove

Bigtop 24th September 2010 02:08 PM

We're still keeping steady, but don't get too excited...

ayumisrael 24th September 2010 02:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SURREAL__RAINBOW (Post 2497880)
so you think crossroad is going to get #1 weekly for sure now??


I just don't want it to sell TOO GOOD so then L can have its moment to shine too :inlove

I want it to sell too good and then L to sell even better :laugh

y_nathz 24th September 2010 02:10 PM

Ayu's doing good lol I'm happy for Kuu too~
Yeah she still have 7 days final to promote, how can I forgot that XD
Her sales will be ok :D

SURREAL__RAINBOW 24th September 2010 02:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ayumisrael (Post 2497885)
I want it to sell too good and then L to sell even better :laugh

That's a good way to go too xD :luv2

Corvina 24th September 2010 02:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by njanjayrp (Post 2497868)
That was the fan club press, already released as far as I know.

No, it's not, everyone can buy it from mu-mo.
It was shipped yesterday.

rakeru 24th September 2010 03:36 PM

Ouch, I was expecting the halving theory to apply to yesterday's sales, so I thought it would be about 8k. But 6?

MissElin_ 24th September 2010 04:04 PM

Ayu is doing okay. It's not mindblowing, but so is neither the single itself. I don't really bother too much about the sales though. As long as she get's #1 I'm a happy bunny for her sake.

love in music 24th September 2010 05:04 PM

now i just hope it can stay steady for the last few days! i'm really happy with these sales. they of course could be better but the fact that it's selling more than her last single and we're not just watching her single sales drop and drop with each release anymore is great.

roanmy 24th September 2010 05:18 PM

Yay ayu! Hoping 80K first week, but I think 75K tops is more realistic... Just have to wait'n'see. =)

njanjayrp 24th September 2010 05:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Corvina (Post 2497899)
No, it's not, everyone can buy it from mu-mo.
It was shipped yesterday.

Oh, right. Sorry ^_^

Heldin 24th September 2010 07:28 PM

Does she still has a chance to get #1 weekly? Anyway, I'm happy that she's the best over all again =)

Ranma Matsuri 24th September 2010 07:38 PM

^The gap between her and Kuu who's in 2nd place is almost 30k, with sales for both dropping even if Kuu gets the remaining #1 daily's I'm pretty sure the weekly is hers at this point. But you never know.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cherry Dynamite (Post 2497708)
LOL I think it's impossible crossroad will get number 1 next week.
You guys are worrying and thinking too much.

LOL this. I have no idea why people are hanging on to the idea that crossroad will overtake L next week. L would have to absolutely TANK in order for that to happen. Has she ever had 2nd week sales that beat out 1st week in recent years?

roanmy 24th September 2010 07:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Heldin (Post 2498166)
Does she still has a chance to get #1 weekly? Anyway, I'm happy that she's the best over all again =)

She`s currently like 22,000 copies ahead of Kuu who is No. 2, so I'd say YES! =D

Mirrorcle Monster 24th September 2010 07:52 PM

Is kuu a really threat???Ayu has been one all days...

primavera♥ 24th September 2010 08:01 PM

I reeeally like these sales for ayu. She's doing quite fine. I'm just surprised this has more than Sunrise as of now. But I guess I shouldn't be.
Hopefully L will do better just as crossroad did better than M/b :D

Elednist 24th September 2010 09:03 PM

The sales are great, I expected 8k for today, but I think that tomorrow the sales can increase or at least remain stable. 1# weekly is sure, she must go to the 80k for this week

Jwiz 24th September 2010 09:11 PM

This single deserves at least 90k (or maybe 100) for its first week? :shrug

Looks like suki de is well received to a certain extent..

Heldin 24th September 2010 09:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ranma Matsuri (Post 2498175)
^The gap between her and Kuu who's in 2nd place is almost 30k, with sales for both dropping even if Kuu gets the remaining #1 daily's I'm pretty sure the weekly is hers at this point. But you never know.

Quote:

Originally Posted by roanmy (Post 2498185)
She`s currently like 22,000 copies ahead of Kuu who is No. 2, so I'd say YES! =D


That's cool! I think it would be great, if L get #1 and crossroad #2 XD. Like it was with ABest 2!!

By the way, I got into a mess: from which single began the strike? If I'm not mistaken, T2M got #2?

Ranma Matsuri 24th September 2010 09:23 PM

^Nope, the album GUILTY got #2 and ended her #1 album streak but her current #1 single streak started with Free and Easy.


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