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roanmy 18th January 2011 11:56 AM

Yay, it probably crossed 250K today! ^^

jbrat2219 18th January 2011 12:19 PM

Wow, it's still hanging in the top ten and it's almost been a month! I think with some longevity, 270k, even 280k might not be that far-fetched.

Refix 18th January 2011 12:32 PM

hmmmm~ Ayu`s album selling getting lower and lower each year.
Kinda sad with all of those expensive PV and other stuff.

njanjayrp 18th January 2011 12:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jbrat2219 (Post 2613401)
I mean after the expectation of selling millions. I would imagine it would be a little weird at first.

Of course, but that time will come, sooner or later.

shizukanaotoko 18th January 2011 01:02 PM

Keep it up!!! Hopefully the release of the game will also promote the album a little considering its theme song will be from the CD :)

Andrenekoi 18th January 2011 02:46 PM

^ But it was already said Tales of Xillia theme song will be a completely new song recorded specially for the game...

waterballoon 18th January 2011 03:55 PM

wow good job Ayu

AyumiAi 18th January 2011 05:53 PM

Good job ayu :) but its gunn a drop tomorrow with the new releases xp it's okay it's still doing amazing!

adantatu2 19th January 2011 01:32 AM

really nice peak, and good sales, thanks

C+R+E+AYUMI 19th January 2011 08:14 AM

almost 250!! yaaaay go on go on! 300k aren't so far

ayumisrael 19th January 2011 12:13 PM

2nd Day
Position: #18

Well still on top 20 :D

roanmy 19th January 2011 12:44 PM

auch o_O

Chibi-Chan 19th January 2011 03:19 PM

I'm ok with the numbers.^^

brener 20th January 2011 03:24 AM

i rly wish it could come back to top 10 on weekly charts :~

but im happy with the sales...

shizukanaotoko 20th January 2011 07:31 AM

Oh oops. For some reason Ayu's wiki page says the game theme song is an album track... someone should change that :)

Yay I'm excited for new material!

Didz-19 20th January 2011 12:19 PM

3rd Day
Position: #15

ayumisrael 20th January 2011 12:45 PM

Thanks! that's great =D

lividlillies 20th January 2011 05:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shizukanaotoko (Post 2615004)
Oh oops. For some reason Ayu's wiki page says the game theme song is an album track... someone should change that :)

I found it on the Love songs page and deleted it. I guess it'd fit better on her main page saying she's writing/wrote something new? But I don't have time to do that right now. XD

love in music 20th January 2011 06:32 PM

so maybe 260-280k total? I'm very happy! I didn't think it'd pass 250k originally. this is probably her last album that ever will so enjoy it guys~

brener 20th January 2011 06:49 PM

^

i think it will be like that too..

AyumiAi 20th January 2011 07:56 PM

^ agreed unless she does some major promotion with her face plastered all over the place
and every song having a super strong tie in (which is all very unlikely)
then yes it probably is but oh well ;p good job ayu! :D

Pieces_of_SEVEN 20th January 2011 08:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by love in music (Post 2615472)
so maybe 260-280k total? I'm very happy! I didn't think it'd pass 250k originally. this is probably her last album that ever will so enjoy it guys~

well hello pessimism.

I don't think that at all.

brener 20th January 2011 08:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pieces_of_SEVEN (Post 2615531)
well hello pessimism.

I don't think that at all.

i think that 260k at least is possible... but not 280k...

and well, she won't promote more this album cuz avex and ayu are ok with the sales.. if they weren't, of course they would promote it more

love in music 20th January 2011 10:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pieces_of_SEVEN (Post 2615531)
well hello pessimism.

I don't think that at all.

not really, just being realistic. you can go on expecting her to outsell this album with her next or having a less than 50k drop, but you'll just end up disappointed because there is a very slim chance of that happening.

lividlillies 21st January 2011 03:36 AM

Ayu's been having a lot of publicity at the beginning of this year, what with her engagement and marriage, and I think it's helped put her back in the mainstream public eye. Rather than a huge drop, I think her next album will have similar sales.

freedreamer 21st January 2011 04:35 AM

I bet Love songs gained more exposure overseas esp with her marriage news all over. Seems like being in the news really changes a lot of factors. And Love songs is an album that grows on the listener so that might help for the longevity too

brener 21st January 2011 04:39 AM

now what i rly want is a long and steady chart life...

AyumiAi 21st January 2011 05:28 AM

Hmmm who knows hopefully you guys are rig but time after time we think well maybe this time sales will be higher or not so much lower because of ____ and it always seem to drop or Wtv hopefully though love songs has a long chart life :)

brener 21st January 2011 05:36 AM

we could also hope for the other artists to sell less than ayu this year hehe just kidding

Polyrhythm 21st January 2011 07:25 AM

Not happening. AKB48 is releasing an album. Namie is releasing an album. Kumi is releasing an album.

brener 21st January 2011 07:48 AM

kumi has a lot of chances to sell less than ayu.. i mean, her last album+best album sold only a few thousands more than RNRC and it was a studio album + a best album, of course fans expected more and RNRC was only a studio album... if UNIVERSE wasnt released with the BEST it would surely sold less copies...

Cherry Dynamite 21st January 2011 08:03 AM

By a few you mean over 50 thousands right?

brener 21st January 2011 08:10 AM

^

do u RLY think that 50k when talking about an album is a big number?

and there's the fact that ayu released A STUDIO ALBUM and koda A STUDIO + BEST ALBUM together... koda should has sold like 500k copies at least, her album + best album sold like a normal studio album....

Polyrhythm 21st January 2011 08:30 AM

Um what year do you think we're in? 2008?

Cherry Dynamite 21st January 2011 08:36 AM

Umm BEST ALBUM isn't really a big seller as it used to be lol unless you're really popular or you're the current 'it'.

and yes 50k is a huge number if it isn't then, it wouldn't be a problem for Ayu to sell additional 50k right?

brener 21st January 2011 08:40 AM

well, let's see then, i doubt she will sell loads like u're meaning ^^ she can sell more than ayu with this new album, but not something like +100k copies...

njanjayrp 21st January 2011 08:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brener (Post 2615895)
well, let's see then, i doubt she will sell loads like u're meaning ^^ she can sell more than ayu with this new albuml, but not something like +100k copies...

Agreed. If Dejavu sells more than Love songs it's not gonna be by far. 20-30k tops.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cherry Dynamite (Post 2615891)
and yes 50k is a huge number if it isn't then, it wouldn't be a problem for Ayu to sell additional 50k right?

How does that even make sense?

Cherry Dynamite 21st January 2011 09:03 AM

The logic is pretty simple if 50k isn't a bit deal then shouldn't it be easy to sell additional 50k? I'm not insulting anyone but saying 50k isn't huge in today's sales is pretty flawed.

Quote:

Originally Posted by brener (Post 2615895)
well, let's see then, i doubt she will sell loads like u're meaning ^^ she can sell more than ayu with this new album, but not something like +100k copies...

I didn't say that it'll sell tons nor did I say it'll outsell Love songs, all I said was 50k is a lot.

brener 21st January 2011 09:07 AM

i don't think that if an album outsold other by 50k even nowadays (in japan) we can tell that it outsold the other by a huge number of copies... 50k matters, of course, but isn't THAT HUGE.

njanjayrp 21st January 2011 09:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cherry Dynamite (Post 2615901)
The logic is pretty simple if 50k isn't a bit deal then shouldn't it be easy to sell additional 50k? I'm not insulting anyone but saying 50k isn't huge in today's sales is pretty flawed.

You're not insulting anyone, but I think you are wrong. You can only say it shouldn't be hard for someone to sell 50k, not additional 50k as that way it simply doesn't make that much sense, as you can't keep selling additional 50k all the time (depending on how long has the album been on the charts). You could as well say that 1000 copies is a big deal when an album is in it's 15th week and barely selling 50 copies a day. 50k isn't that big deal for the majority of popular artists, for people who barely sell it is. For Ayu who's singles sell around 50k in 2-3 days tops, it still isn't.

roanmy 21st January 2011 10:19 AM

^I'm really curious about how much Ayu's next single's gonna sell, I sort of see a big drop. On the other hand she has a good(?) tie-in, so maybe it'll sell a lot, hehe.

njanjayrp 21st January 2011 10:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by roanmy (Post 2615916)
^I'm really curious about how much Ayu's next single's gonna sell, I sort of see a big drop. On the other hand she has a good(?) tie-in, so maybe it'll sell a lot, hehe.

BoA's Tales of graces single sold more than her studio album that followed ^^ With some luck and TV promo the single shouldn't have troubles selling over 100k.

Nackar_91 21st January 2011 11:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by njanjayrp (Post 2615931)
BoA's Tales of graces single sold more than her studio album that followed ^^ With some luck and TV promo the single shouldn't have troubles selling over 100k.

Do you mean Mamoritai? It just sold 50k, whereas Identity sold 60k... even so, it did go Gold digitally and her two singles released before and after it just sold 15k, so you definitely have a point :yes

Tales of something tie-ins almost always mean good news : P

ayumisrael 21st January 2011 11:53 AM

4th Day
Position: #12

Almost back in top 10. ^^

MissElin_ 21st January 2011 01:25 PM

Wow. Strong. It's week 5 and still so high. Make's me happy to see. ^_^

rusuke 21st January 2011 03:40 PM

^Wow! That is really awesome!!!

Thanks! ^_^

Cherry Dynamite 21st January 2011 03:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by njanjayrp (Post 2615905)
You're not insulting anyone, but I think you are wrong. You can only say it shouldn't be hard for someone to sell 50k, not additional 50k as that way it simply doesn't make that much sense, as you can't keep selling additional 50k all the time (depending on how long has the album been on the charts). You could as well say that 1000 copies is a big deal when an album is in it's 15th week and barely selling 50 copies a day. 50k isn't that big deal for the majority of popular artists, for people who barely sell it is. For Ayu who's singles sell around 50k in 2-3 days tops, it still isn't.

Yeah lol the additional part was unnecessary.

njanjayrp 21st January 2011 04:11 PM

^ What additional part?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nackar_91 (Post 2615979)
Do you mean Mamoritai? It just sold 50k, whereas Identity sold 60k... even so, it did go Gold digitally and her two singles released before and after it just sold 15k, so you definitely have a point :yes

Tales of something tie-ins almost always mean good news : P

Did it? The last time I checked it was around 50k. Oh well the point is, BoA hasn't had a single that sold that well since Sweet Impact and LOVE LETTER (and it outsold both of those).

brener 21st January 2011 07:23 PM

i hope it could come back to #8 or #9 by monday... i guess it will sell like 5k~7k copies this week

adantatu2 21st January 2011 11:38 PM

Good peak today !!
Probably if avex releases a "Tales version of the single" (with a pic of the game instead ayu in the cover), ayu is gonna sell more, or at least she is not gonna drop a lot IMO

ayumisrael 22nd January 2011 12:55 PM

5th Day
Position: #11

Didz-19 22nd January 2011 12:55 PM

5th Day
Position: #11

(^^) One step at a time~~~

Didz-19 22nd January 2011 12:56 PM

Hahahaha...@Ayumisrael, we post the Love songs' today position at the same time~~Hahahahaha

ayumisrael 22nd January 2011 02:19 PM

Yeah hahaha thank you! ^^

microphone 22nd January 2011 10:40 PM

respectable amount sold!

brener 23rd January 2011 12:24 AM

i hope for the 10th position tomorrow :D

adantatu2 23rd January 2011 03:58 AM

close to the top 10 !!!

Didz-19 23rd January 2011 01:31 PM

6th Day
Position: #15

Ayu dropped to #15~~But still holding on~~

Keep up Ayu!!! (^^)

brener 23rd January 2011 08:12 PM

ohh huge drop :XX

MissElin_ 23rd January 2011 11:41 PM

^Lol not really. For being week 5 #15 is quite good! :D

Pieces_of_SEVEN 23rd January 2011 11:42 PM

^^I definitely agree!

adantatu2 24th January 2011 01:23 AM

not bad

Didz-19 24th January 2011 12:05 PM

7th Day
Position: #12

^^ UP! UP! and away~~~~Hehehehe

jbrat2219 24th January 2011 01:33 PM

That's great! This album is a chart fighter!

Pieces_of_SEVEN 25th January 2011 02:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jbrat2219 (Post 2618217)
That's great! This album is a chart fighter!

seriously

ayumisrael 25th January 2011 10:49 AM

5th Week
Position: #17
Official Sales: 5,702
Official Total Sales: 255,140

6th Week

1st Day
Position: #9

SURREAL__RAINBOW 25th January 2011 10:55 AM

NICE!!! thanks!

AyumiAi 25th January 2011 01:28 PM

Why is it so low in position if it was above 17 for 6 / 7 days? And nice number 9:)

MissElin_ 25th January 2011 01:50 PM

^First day of the week is always low(high?). Just look at the other weeks and you will see.

Nackar_91 25th January 2011 03:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AyumiAi (Post 2618898)
Why is it so low in position if it was above 17 for 6 / 7 days? And nice number 9:)

Because the first few days are what matter the most. That's when new releases sell their highest numbers.

Even if Ayu beat some of the others the past few days, they probably still sold more in total.

Chibi-Chan 25th January 2011 03:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ayumisrael (Post 2618814)
5th Week
Position: #17
Official Sales: 5,702
Official Total Sales: 255,140

6th Week

1st Day
Position: #9

YAY! Back in top 10! ^.^

jbrat2219 25th January 2011 03:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ayumisrael (Post 2618814)
5th Week
Position: #17
Official Sales: 5,702
Official Total Sales: 255,140

6th Week

1st Day
Position: #9

Wow...

brener 25th January 2011 03:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AyumiAi (Post 2618898)
Why is it so low in position if it was above 17 for 6 / 7 days? And nice number 9:)

you can see that by Dream ON, it was #1 only for 2 days if i remember and got #1 on weekly :D

and oh, i expected a few more copies.. but it's ok :D

stivenoto 25th January 2011 04:23 PM

Yay....

260k is possible....

Go Ayu!!!

Teppei-chan 25th January 2011 05:59 PM

its nice to see that the album did well in the charts. ^o^ .

ALfromHELLSING 25th January 2011 11:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stivenoto (Post 2618996)
Yay....

260k is possible....

Go Ayu!!!

Sadly hmv & amazon sales are not counted.

brener 26th January 2011 02:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alucard from Hellsing (Post 2619257)
Sadly hmv & amazon sales are not counted.

rly??

Kazeyomi 26th January 2011 03:25 AM

Woah D: I'm impressed by Love songs's life chart.

jbrat2219 26th January 2011 04:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alucard from Hellsing (Post 2619257)
Sadly hmv & amazon sales are not counted.

I don't know about amazon but I'm sure HMV's sales are definitely counted, they're a big music seller in Japan.

Polyrhythm 26th January 2011 06:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kazeyomi (Post 2619374)
Woah D: I'm impressed by Love songs's life chart.

What were you expecting? For it to chart 4 weeks and suddenly drop off? 0_o Rock'n'Roll Circus had a fairly long chart life so this should be no surprise....

adantatu2 26th January 2011 07:28 AM

nice, now go for 260 k

C+R+E+AYUMI 26th January 2011 08:35 AM

we're getting closer..come come 300k!

Minttulatte 26th January 2011 09:40 AM

I always knew it's not gonna sell as much as Rock'n'Roll Circus did. If it reaches 300K, I'd be happy, and not disappointed. :D

njanjayrp 26th January 2011 10:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by C+R+E+AYUMI (Post 2619539)
we're getting closer..come come 300k!

I am not being negative, but that's not gonna happen.

Nackar_91 26th January 2011 11:49 AM

We'd do better to reach for 280k, I think : P

ayumisrael 26th January 2011 12:45 PM

2nd Day
Position: #30

Refix 26th January 2011 01:21 PM

Ouk! it already pass 250k, yeiiii~
hope it can reach at least 270k or less.

brener 26th January 2011 04:21 PM

ouch :~

Elednist 26th January 2011 05:21 PM

Wow, huge drop today U.u' this week will surpase 260k, 270k are near, go for 280k

Yum!Fruit_Salad! 26th January 2011 05:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jbrat2219 (Post 2619409)
I don't know about amazon but I'm sure HMV's sales are definitely counted, they're a big music seller in Japan.

amazon.jp's sales count towards Oricon.

Nackar_91 26th January 2011 08:30 PM

Well of course there's a huge drop, there's finally some serious new competition in the album charts : D

njanjayrp 27th January 2011 08:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elednist (Post 2619808)
Wow, huge drop today U.u' this week will surpase 260k, 270k are near, go for 280k

I don't think the album will manage to sell another 5k this week. Most likely 3-4k tops.

brener 27th January 2011 07:58 PM

^
me too..

is it out of TOP 30 today?

ayumisrael 27th January 2011 11:23 PM

Yes

Didz-19 28th January 2011 01:11 PM

4th Day
Position: #27


(^_-) Good Job Ayu!!!! Ganbatte!!!!! Going UPPPPPPP!!!!

jbrat2219 28th January 2011 03:47 PM

Keep going up!!

adantatu2 29th January 2011 04:44 AM

nice, she still alive in the top 30

ayumisrael 29th January 2011 11:48 AM

5th Day
Position: #27

jbrat2219 29th January 2011 03:35 PM

At least it didn't go down!

joshohhhhh 29th January 2011 04:39 PM

position doesn't really matter on oricon after the first week, just the sales imo.


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