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channy 19th January 2012 08:24 PM

HAHAHA I am laughing so hard XD

Those pictures of Mannie in that, uhm, thong?, they are so hilarious xDDDD I can't believe they are meant to look sexy though x). I don't know when I've laughed that hard in front of my PC for the last time xD

More of this, please!! :mgagged

ayu_fantasy 19th January 2012 08:40 PM

I'm nt against mannie, but i hope ayu can marry a japanese man now...

njanjayrp 19th January 2012 08:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ayu_fantasy (Post 2805059)
I'm nt against mannie, but i hope ayu can marry a japanese man now...

I keep being surprised by some of you people. Sure one expects loads of dumb comments by several members on here. But seeing people worried she went to the Middle East because of various prejudice and people having issues with her husband for various reasons makes one wonder. And this was kinda racist btw.

RayJason 19th January 2012 09:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ayu_fantasy (Post 2805059)
I'm nt against mannie, but i hope ayu can marry a japanese man now...

What do Japanese men have that other men do not have?

TeamAyu2004 19th January 2012 09:10 PM

I cant believe people actually say stuff like that... man... sucks for ayumi.

"I'm sorry, you can't marry him..."
"Why?"
"Uh.. he's not Asian..."

:thud

happiholic★ 19th January 2012 09:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ayu_fantasy (Post 2804994)
Gosh, the photos were gross, don't tell me Super ayu shots are also like that?? gosh, it's really such a bad idea that leslie like to do those nude shots... anyone has more super mannie scans??

LOL. "Ewww, Super Mannie photos are sooo gross.... Where can I see more??"

Considering some of Ayu's previous works, Lady Dynamite comes to mind, I can't see Super Mannie being that offensive, especially to the point where she divorces him.

Also, having her staff as her main group of friends makes sense. She can't make friends these days, the average person would see Ayu the singer and the relationship would be strange. She probably has non staff friends, but she probably spends more time with her staff.

Bigtop 19th January 2012 09:21 PM

Whoa... More rumors and dirty talk... That really makes me and some of us uncomfortable here...

channy 19th January 2012 09:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ayu_fantasy (Post 2805059)
I'm nt against mannie, but i hope ayu can marry a japanese man now...

I must agree with the comments other people made before. It is a bit ignorant to think the way you do, but back then, when I saw a certain picture of Ayu and Shuya, I was like... "That's it!".

I know, Shuya is said to be gay or it even has been confirmed (I don't care for sexual preferences of strangers, so I am clueless about his orientation) but I always thought they would make a perfect couple :luv2

http://img593.imageshack.us/img593/8973/ayushuya.jpg


happiholic★ 19th January 2012 09:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bigtop (Post 2805077)
Whoa... More rumors and dirty talk... That really makes me and some of us uncomfortable here...

I don't understand how rumors make you uncomfortable, and I don't see what you find dirty.

Kazeyomi 19th January 2012 10:06 PM

Lmao I don't really think Ayu would be so childish to divorce just because of an awkard photobook though :laugh.
He's a model also not very known, so you have to do anything at the beginning. Even funny photoshoots lol.

njanjayrp 19th January 2012 10:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Love Shine (Post 2805084)
I don't understand how rumors make you uncomfortable, and I don't see what you find dirty.

Most of the things Bigtop says make no sense at all :innocent I wouldn't dwell on it :D

RayJason 19th January 2012 11:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by channy (Post 2805081)
I know, Shuya is said to be gay or it even has been confirmed (I don't care for sexual preferences of foreigners, so I am clueless about his orientation) but I always thought they would make a perfect couple :luv2

http://img593.imageshack.us/img593/8973/ayushuya.jpg


I support this pairing! They look great together!

saigodansu 19th January 2012 11:12 PM

and Super Ayu was a surprise gift for Ayu, very doubtful she did a photo shoot like that or any for a surprise for herself. I'm sure Leslie just compiled all their past works, since the cover was from the Five shoot.

emi♡ 19th January 2012 11:31 PM

Ayu has a conservative mindset? What lol That chick is anything but conservative.

And to whoever asked what Japanese men have over other men...the advantage of being Japanese lol Which would be important in a place like Japan.

I dont think the photobook broke them up....why would it lol I was treating that rumor as a joke. Thought everyone else was too.

tbh I think Mannie is dating someone else already. I feel like this divorce was a long time coming...even if it was genuine and perfect at the beginning. Why they announced it now....lol

relmy 20th January 2012 12:20 AM

The more photos I see of Mannie, and especially in Super Manuel - I realise why I never found him attractive.

He looks like Rasputin. :/ I just looked at a photo and my brain went... "why is Ayu with Raspu--oh no".

Obviously I've been studying too hard.

Chibi-Chan 20th January 2012 12:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by channy (Post 2805081)
I must agree with the comments other people made before. It is a bit ignorant to think the way you do, but back then, when I saw a certain picture of Ayu and Shuya, I was like... "That's it!".

I know, Shuya is said to be gay or it even has been confirmed (I don't care for sexual preferences of strangers, so I am clueless about his orientation) but I always thought they would make a perfect couple :luv2

http://img593.imageshack.us/img593/8973/ayushuya.jpg


Would love this too!


And those pictures of Mannie are so embarrassing! It's one think to release some classy photos, but those are really too much!

RayJason 20th January 2012 12:42 AM

I hope that nobody will bash me for this but:
Spoiler:
Like most people on here, I 'expected' that ayu's marriage wouldn't last long. When I saw that Mannie photobook, I was left shocked and said something along the lines of 'It's kinda trashy for Mannie to release such a book (even if it's limited). It's vulgar in my opinion and the husband of Asia's empress of pop shouldn't publicize himself like that.'

Since I saw that book my whole opinion about Mannie changed. At first when they married I was like 'What??!', then midway I really liked them together (even though they weren't together), and after the photobook: "Is he ayu's husband?''.

I know that as a model you need to be able to fullfill your clients 'wills' but both he and Leslie did a terrible job on it. The man looked really awkward in all of the pictures.

Sorry for going offtopic, put it in spoilers just in case :lech ~ !


I actually think that the photobook plays a role in this too (not an significant role or something). But that's just my speculation about this all.

edit To give it some more thought, I'm doubting this 'speculation' very much. lol

Quote:

Originally Posted by emiko (Post 2805138)
And to whoever asked what Japanese men have over other men...the advantage of being Japanese lol Which would be important in a place like Japan.

Oh you don't say! .................................. ..

saigodansu 20th January 2012 12:56 AM

I think the book may have played a role in her finally ending it for the rest of the world to see. But with the info that is now out by mainstream news that the tabloids already published in July, in Japan atleast, it was over before it began if she never registered and never planned to. Even the argument that she may have tried for US citizenship doesnt hold up, that takes alot of time and Japan only gives 90 days to register. Plus her career would have kept her in Japan more often than not with her touring and CDL. The recording could all be done in LA but not the tour.

Tony G 20th January 2012 01:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Suteisi (Post 2805038)
It's called modelling! It's a job!

Models do what the photography/client wants them to do! If Leslie wanted Mannie to pose that way, he did. What do you do at work? Generally, you do what your boss tells you!

Lol. Silly tabloids!

True, but this issue is a lot more sensitive in Japan than in the western world. You have to think about Ayu's image, which is mature and sophisticated. Everything Mannie does in public will have an effect on an image she's worked very hard for.

Something like this could have potentially cost her fans.

Ayumiko 20th January 2012 01:30 AM

I'm not surprised about the divorce...I had a feeling when ayu chose to do her recordings in London for a month instead of US. As to the real reason behind the divorce, I think its a bit of everything. Long distance relationship is hard. Especially if you barely known that person that long before marriage and after that barely seeing each other. It doesnt help that there's somewhat a language barrier. She probably also doesnt like the fact that he released the photobook too...but I dont think its the main reason...it just didnt help.

btw...not bashing Manuel or anything but those photobook pics are embarrassing. They're so tasteless and his facial expressions were not sexy at all. I hope ayu will still continue to work with leslie kee despite of this photobook coz I love all the work he's done with ayu.

pommy48 20th January 2012 01:44 AM

:laugh Lol let's just blame Leslie for the divorce then

happiholic★ 20th January 2012 01:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by saigodansu (Post 2805132)
and Super Ayu was a surprise gift for Ayu, very doubtful she did a photo shoot like that or any for a surprise for herself. I'm sure Leslie just compiled all their past works, since the cover was from the Five shoot.

Super Ayu could very well be just as, er, "raunchy" as Super Mannie. Perhaps that's why it was not sold, and just given to friends or something. Its very odd, really.

Also, regarding to Mannie being a model, should he have done Super Mannie, I feel like, Mannie and Leslie would be more like friends than photographer and model. More like, it just so happens that friends fit that role. So, I don't think that Leslie would be making Mannie do things that he is uncomfortable with because he's a model. Therefore, I think the whole "they got divorced because Super Mannie made Mannie uncomfortable" is BS.

saigodansu 20th January 2012 02:00 AM

I doubt it. It was a surprise gift to her with 500 copies. Even if she did private photos I don't think she would risk 500 copies being out there, plus it wouldn't have been a surprise. Besides look at the Super books of his female models and Lady Gaga, none of them were like the male model books.

BlackSilence 20th January 2012 02:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pommy48 (Post 2805182)
:laugh Lol let's just blame Leslie for the divorce then

Leslie got Mannie do the phtoshoot and turns out Mannie is actually gay, so they got together and bam, Ayu decided to let the poor soul who finally found his real self, go....:D

Pieces_of_SEVEN 20th January 2012 02:29 AM

Even if ayu did fabricate a story about the reason for the divorce...oh well. She's not obligated to reveal every detail of her life to the public. And she has always been a private person.

(Except for that time that she showed her cooch to everyone while filming kanariya...lmao)

Larisa-chan 20th January 2012 02:39 AM

^ LOL WHAT. What is this about kanariya? o.o

Also, I agree that the Super Mannie photobook is awkward and gross looking. But I seriously doubt that was a factor in the divorce, but who knows. It seems like a really petty reason, but that's just MY opinion.

I really do feel the physical distance between Ayu and Mannie was the main factor...

kendelle 20th January 2012 02:47 AM

No way Super Manuel played a role in the divorce.

It was shot by one of Ayu's close friends, and if we know one thing for sure, Ayu loves everything that her friends do, even if it's not best for her overall image and performance quality xD

Many fans are of the opinion Peco and Princess should go so Ayu can find her backup singers but they're still here. Lots of people want Kazu to disappear altogether but he'll be around to shoot more album covers....lol

happiholic★ 20th January 2012 03:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pieces_of_SEVEN (Post 2805195)
Even if ayu did fabricate a story about the reason for the divorce...oh well. She's not obligated to reveal every detail of her life to the public. And she has always been a private person.

(Except for that time that she showed her cooch to everyone while filming kanariya...lmao)

While I do agree that Ayu isn't really obliged to tell us everything, if she is lying, using the earthquake as part of the lie would be pretty tasteless.

Pieces_of_SEVEN 20th January 2012 03:07 AM

^^I'll give you that. Which makes me believe that she really isn't lying at all.

emi♡ 20th January 2012 03:12 AM

I dont think she thought that people would take it that way though. I figured she was making it sound like she was being patriotic and prioritizing Japan over herself.

I didnt even think about it as an excuse until the media started saying ****...

Anyway tbh, for me, she's either really dumb and made some bad decisions...or some of her story is bs...

Maybe its both, she'll never say, and really it doesnt matter what she says. If this is what she wants, this is what she wants.

saigodansu 20th January 2012 03:13 AM

I thought it sounded more like someone else at Avex wrote the press release myself. It wasn't worded quite like she says things normally on TA or Twitter.

emi♡ 20th January 2012 03:27 AM

Well idk, I'll leave that up for you guys to decide. I dont pay enough attention to her messages.

happiholic★ 20th January 2012 03:30 AM

Did I already read that their divorce is finalized? Can't seem to find it, but I thought I read it earlier.

saigodansu 20th January 2012 03:38 AM

One of the news reports said it was, may have been in the works longer than her press release said too.

elvis810 20th January 2012 04:12 AM

i don't see Mannie as a good model at all and that photobook lies between porn and modeling work which is awful...

and obviously leslie kee is not as professional and tasteful as i imagined...kinda off topic

oh well, i hope ayu finds someone who deserves her...i'm still hoping she could be back together with nagase tomoya...they make a cute couple

stivenoto 20th January 2012 05:33 AM

we will not got the real reason from ayu....
Ayu use that reason just to make her fans calm down and not bashing mannie....

Maybe the real reason is to private, so ayu cant tell the public....

But i do think that super manuel play a bit role about their divorce...
If they only want to make it as a gift for Ayu, they will not sell that kind of pictures to everyone, although its limited...

Almost all the pictures on super manuel should be private....

ayuuk 20th January 2012 05:59 AM

^You have seen them all?

I only saw one, which makes me feel uncomfortable even though I am not his wife...

happiholic★ 20th January 2012 06:05 AM

^You can find the scans posted somewhere on the Super Ayu thread.

emi♡ 20th January 2012 06:09 AM

Its interesting what makes people uncomfortable...

femtrooper 20th January 2012 06:33 AM

If there are other reasons for the divorce, which I'm sure there are, why should she have to tell the public every last detail about her life?

haikudasai 20th January 2012 07:08 AM

Well I finally saw those pics someone posted on tumblr of Mannie.

Yuck. He might have been cuter when he was younger but he is not attractive. Also, he's not good at modeling.

stivenoto 20th January 2012 07:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ayuuk (Post 2805266)
^You have seen them all?

I only saw one, which makes me feel uncomfortable even though I am not his wife...

Yes i saw the scan on Super Ayu Thread....
There is someone who scaned it and put it in his/her website.

emi♡ 20th January 2012 07:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by haikudasai (Post 2805305)
Well I finally saw those pics someone posted on tumblr of Mannie.

Yuck. He might have been cuter when he was younger but he is not attractive. Also, he's not good at modeling.

thats why I thought him and ayu might have been a good match. They both suck in the same way.

She said he wants to be a movie star though right? Lol poor Mannie

C+R+E+AYUMI 20th January 2012 08:51 AM

FIVE lyrics look symptomatic nowadays

Quote:

ANother song

With whom are you now?
And what expression are you showing?
I can't yet be used to the days
Without you [...]

I'm sorry, I love you even now
Am I dishonest? But I love you [...]
Quote:

Why..
Time has passed since then, what has changed?
What did the distance keep away from me? [...]

Why didn't I tell you more often
Like "I want to see you" and "I feel lonely"? [...]

How many times did I try to say, "I love you"
And couldn't I say so again and again? [...]

The dream we pictured and the future we promised each other
Have faded little by little since that day and I lost sight of them [...]
Quote:

BRILLANTE

I decided that this is my last time to write
Thinking of you [...]

I couldn't see anything
After that, I saw everything
The road ahead is too narrow
And I have no choice but to walk alone [...]

What had been two became one, and became two
It's no more than that
We've just come full circle, haven't we? [...]

tasking 20th January 2012 09:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by emiko (Post 2804843)
Damn, my friend called it. When I told him they were getting a divorce, he said, "Is it because of that awful photobook?" :laugh

I am this friend :D

Also, I had to sit through Love songs to make sure it uploaded properly for you guys, and it was rather eery...

Angel_Hikaru 20th January 2012 10:00 AM

The cool thing would be, that they are making everyone believed they're getting a divorce, so that everyone would stop bothering about their married life...

Or even better Ayu marrying another foreigner, imagine the quantity of strokes :O

YUKARI 20th January 2012 10:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by artcika (Post 2805189)
Leslie got Mannie do the phtoshoot and turns out Mannie is actually gay, so they got together and bam, Ayu decided to let the poor soul who finally found his real self, go....:D

haha!! :laugh

Leslie EVIL!

C+R+E+AYUMI 20th January 2012 11:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Angel_Hikaru (Post 2805368)
The cool thing would be, that they are making everyone believed they're getting a divorce, so that everyone would stop bothering about their married life...

LOL could be, I won't be that surprised :mischief

stivenoto 20th January 2012 11:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Angel_Hikaru (Post 2805368)
The cool thing would be, that they are making everyone believed they're getting a divorce, so that everyone would stop bothering about their married life...

Or even better Ayu marrying another foreigner, imagine the quantity of strokes :O

can you imagine Ayu fall in Love with JUno?

:D :D :D :D

Midori-chan 20th January 2012 12:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stivenoto (Post 2805393)
can you imagine Ayu fall in Love with JUno?

:D :D :D :D

lol NO! :laugh

But if, then the next scandal is just around the corner, because Juno is nearly ten years younger than Ayu!

Not that I would have a problem with it, but I'm sure there are a lot of people who would!

YUKARI 20th January 2012 02:24 PM

no JUNO please ~.~

ayu, please, keep you private life private!

Suteisi 20th January 2012 02:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by C+R+E+AYUMI (Post 2805352)
FIVE lyrics look symptomatic nowadays

Quote:

Why..
Time has passed since then, what has changed?
What did the distance keep away from me? [...]

Why didn't I tell you more often
Like "I want to see you" and "I feel lonely"? [...]

How many times did I try to say, "I love you"
And couldn't I say so again and again? [...]

The dream we pictured and the future we promised each other
Have faded little by little since that day and I lost sight of them [...]

This sounds so much like the Ayu I've "gotten to know"...

She wants to be strong so she doesn't say things like "I'm lonely" or "I want to see you" out loud, she keeps them to herself.

happiholic★ 20th January 2012 03:01 PM

I wasn't "disgusted" with Super Mannie, I've seen worse. It was just to horribly... faggy. The bum-less undies were just laughable. It seemed like a joke.

TeamAyu2004 20th January 2012 03:09 PM

^ yeah.. the entire thing was just horrible... but some people find that art.. Blah

happiholic★ 20th January 2012 03:26 PM

^i don't even think Leslie was going for "art". I think he was just doing what makes him, er, "happy".

YUKARI 20th January 2012 03:28 PM

^tbh when I first saw SUPER MANUEL scans, I felt like Leslie just trolled him

panda♥ 20th January 2012 03:55 PM

i don't think that qualifies as art... XD the photos looked so, so, SO awkward.

AyUmIXx 20th January 2012 04:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tokyoxjapanxfan (Post 2804975)
Japanese newspapers have stated that Ayu has given no money to Mannie after the divorce. They have also not had to split any of their property. Ayu had to pay a 50,000 Yen fine for not registering her marriage in Japan, but that's it.

It also states that as an Austrian, Mannie apparently was scared of going to Japan because of the radiation (because of the Chernobyl-effect on Europe), and his countries government had/has told its citizens to leave and stay out of Japan, causing strife between the two.

wow ayu had to pay fine? wow!

wow the bold port is really crap ~ i've seen Mannie tweet a lot about helping Japan. All i know he really did care about japan at the time.

TeamAyu2004 20th January 2012 04:03 PM

Well, it was for Ayu...
Maybe Ayu has this nasty side we dont know about??

Super Ayu by day... Pop Empress
Super Ayu by night - naughty S&M Queen.. lol

Bigtop 20th January 2012 06:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by njanjayrp (Post 2805116)
Most of the things Bigtop says make no sense at all :innocent I wouldn't dwell on it :D

Yes, I have to admit that. And I do have to say sorry about it also because I even talk nonsense to parents, which kind of makes me down at times...

happiholic★ 20th January 2012 06:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bigtop (Post 2805565)
Yes, I have to admit that. And I do have to say sorry about it also because I even talk nonsense to parents, which kind of makes me down at times...

You kinda just broke my heart.

yukito 20th January 2012 06:42 PM

I've seen better non-professional photoshoots that looked much better then this piece of trash... What was he trying to do here? Getting some gay fans? I'm speechless and not in a good way... This is low, very low.

truehappiness 20th January 2012 06:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by yukito (Post 2805581)
I've seen better non-professional photoshoots that looked much better then this piece of trash... What was he trying to do here? Getting some gay fans? I'm speechless and not in a good way... This is low, very low.

I'm not entirely sure why Leslie went with such a odd theme with the "SUPER" books but basically for the male ones (the female subjects like LADY GAGA, ANNA WINTOUR, and AYU are just fashionable) in order to 'support Japan', Leslie created the "SUPER NUDE" photobooks which are basically a bunch of male models and singers in various states of undress. It's not just Mannie's that's like this.

This really is not anything new for Leslie though, whenever he photographs men for his photobooks, 99.9% of the time they are either falling out of their outfits (that tend to also be ripped to shreds) or are completely naked. I guess he's known for being more of an 'erotic photographer' when it comes to male subjects?

Just compare the images of women and the images of men in this SUPER STARS spread:

TeamAyu2004 20th January 2012 08:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by truehappiness (Post 2805586)
I'm not entirely sure why Leslie went with such a odd theme with the "SUPER" books but basically for the male ones (the female subjects like LADY GAGA, ANNA WINTOUR, and AYU are just fashionable) in order to 'support Japan', Leslie created the "SUPER NUDE" photobooks which are basically a bunch of male models and singers in various states of undress. It's not just Mannie's that's like this.

This really is not anything new for Leslie though, whenever he photographs men for his photobooks, 99.9% of the time they are either falling out of their outfits (that tend to also be ripped to shreds) or are completely naked. I guess he's known for being more of an 'erotic photographer' when it comes to male subjects?

Just compare the images of women and the images of men in this SUPER STARS spread:

do you have a bigger version of this picture??

haikudasai 20th January 2012 11:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by emiko (Post 2805328)
thats why I thought him and ayu might have been a good match. They both suck in the same way.

She said he wants to be a movie star though right? Lol poor Mannie

Oh believe me, I agree she's not good at modeling. At least her redeeming quality is being a singer with a great catalog of music.

Him? All I know are his awkward photos and typical LA "I'm a model but I bus tables between jobs" look... :S

happiholic★ 21st January 2012 12:56 AM

Is Leslie not gay? It would explain why he is more interested in getting the dudes nude ;)

saigodansu 21st January 2012 01:32 AM

Yes Leslie is gay, he just married Ryan after laws changed in NY.

emi♡ 21st January 2012 02:48 AM

aww I missed that news. Good for him.

Yannetakizawa 21st January 2012 03:47 AM

I think it's a big slap in the face of many people, but deep
who came off injured in that story was Mannie.

I looked today its "about" on facebook (out of curiosity)
I don't know if the first sentence has to do ..

http://29.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ly...e8u5o1_500.jpg

Kana×Shin 21st January 2012 05:20 AM

Other general comments include:

“Celebrity divorces and breakdowns are just to generate publicity…? If they told the truth, the attention will be gone almost immediately”
“She is such a rich woman, so why did she marry that unattractive foreigner? I don’t get it”
“A Japanese man will still be a better choice, foreigners rush into marriages and divorces too much?”

quoted from:
ayu Divorce Article from Record China Online http://wp.me/p1gjOJ-116 via @angel_misachan

rusuke 21st January 2012 06:17 AM

So sad but honestly I thought they would end up like this. However, whatever reasons she has, let's just support the both of them.

Masamune 21st January 2012 09:03 AM

could it possible that Ayu & Manny signed some document for not to have to pay the other part for the divorce?a lot of celebrities do that to preserve the money that won all over the years...

mi|kshake 21st January 2012 10:39 AM

Quote:

“She is such a rich woman, so why did she marry that unattractive foreigner? I don’t get it”
“A Japanese man will still be a better choice, foreigners rush into marriages and divorces too much?”
Ouch...harsh!

And a bit of a generalisation!

mi|kshake~

ayuuk 21st January 2012 06:46 PM

After several days, Ayu finally has another TA post! :D

Pieces_of_SEVEN 21st January 2012 08:21 PM

Man when it comes to a lot of issues, the japanese as a people can be really primitive, judgemental, and...just odd. smh

MeltingCORE 21st January 2012 09:39 PM

This is really sad. Poor Ayu and Mannie... :( I was hoping Ayu had finally found someone to be with. I wish both of them the best.

saigodansu 21st January 2012 09:41 PM

@Pieces of Seven just like others have pointed out when that kanariya video came up before, it was jeans shorts showing under the dress, not her.
http://eneabba.net/ayu/video/other/0...7.kanariya.htm

Pieces_of_SEVEN 21st January 2012 10:16 PM

^^Which pic proves that? Cause I don't see it

saigodansu 21st January 2012 10:33 PM

The ones with her holding the dress above her waist and the stickers being applied up to the legs of the shorts

happiholic★ 22nd January 2012 03:51 AM

Why are we talking about Kanariya?

EDIT: Also, I'm curious to know what the new TA message is. It might not relate to to the divorce, but I would still like to know what she's addressing in this post.

C+R+E+AYUMI 22nd January 2012 10:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by yukito (Post 2805581)
I've seen better non-professional photoshoots that looked much better then this piece of trash... What was he trying to do here? Getting some gay fans? I'm speechless and not in a good way... This is low, very low.

Where did you see the scans guys? I'm curious much

saigodansu 22nd January 2012 10:46 AM

someone put about 16-20 of the 52 pages on tumblr

Corvina 22nd January 2012 12:07 PM

There are really people thinking she wanted the divorce cause of the Super Manuel book?
That would be so shallow, it was just some work he did and it was a present after all.

I'm sad for Ayu and Mannie, divorcing and seperating never is a nice thing.
There sure are much more reasons and things than we know.
But it is like it is.
Hope it gets better for both the next time.

saigodansu 22nd January 2012 12:38 PM

I don't think it had to do with the book either, unless that was the last of many straws. All their tweets back and forth since March, seem in hindsight to be covering problems going back as far as February. All year she was answering fans saying he would come to a concert, they just couldn't decide a date for it. Then when he tweeted and she replied calling him an idiot in japanese it got more obvious. June was the most obvious, her in Bali while he was at multiple birthday parties in LA. But then she continued to wear the rings and tweet him back occasionally so no one gave it a second thought.

Misa-chan 22nd January 2012 01:27 PM

^ I know you hate Mannie to the core, but could you not pick their relationship to pieces like this? It's really creepy..

ayu_ready? 22nd January 2012 01:27 PM

Ayu & Gackt was always my dream :D
because Gackt is too epic, okay? :P

http://savepic.net/2393320m.gif

Earth_maiden 22nd January 2012 01:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Misa-chan (Post 2806518)
^ I know you hate Mannie to the core, but could you not pick their relationship to pieces like this? It's really creepy..

+1

saigodansu 22nd January 2012 01:44 PM

^v^ wow really

norwegian blue 22nd January 2012 01:57 PM

^^ why don't you take your creepy stalker talk elsewhere instead of starting this garbage again, its getting really old

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http://i.imgur.com/FyyfD.png

BlackSilence 22nd January 2012 02:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ayu_ready? (Post 2806519)
Ayu & Gackt was always my dream :D
because Gackt is too epic, okay? :P

http://savepic.net/2393320m.gif

+1

tho i can't see them as a couple, but definitelly Ayu would be in good hands >D


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i find it sort of weird that this discussion is still ongoing... there's nothing to actually discuss anymore lol

ayu_ready? 22nd January 2012 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by artcika (Post 2806539)
+1

tho i can't see them as a couple, but definitelly Ayu would be in good hands >D


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i find it sort of weird that this discussion is still ongoing... there's nothing to actually discuss anymore lol

I can see them. Idk, but I've been a fan of Gackt since I've been a fan of Ayu and I own much of his old stuff up to Diablos, lol. He's really cool, I like people who seem so serious and smart but then can laugh at themselves and have a good sense of humour and just suddenly start acting fun like he does in his concerts. I think he's a good man, she'd be in good hands :)

I think people will long discuss her divorce.

BlackSilence 22nd January 2012 02:40 PM

^haha same here!!!! But yeah she would be in good hands :)

i know people willl be discissing the point is there's nothing new, they are just simply draging on the same old stuff, some are adding the creepiness into it..i dunno for me it seems it should be already done...

Suteisi 22nd January 2012 05:49 PM

I love GACKT as well but I can't see them together, to be honest. I find GACKT a bit too feminine for Ayu... she seems to love guys that are very manly... lol

RayJason 22nd January 2012 05:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by norwegian blue (Post 2806528)
^^ why don't you take your creepy stalker talk elsewhere instead of starting this garbage again, its getting really old

Edit:
http://i.imgur.com/FyyfD.png

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL :laugh I love this post, especially the picture and 'reason: I can edit too!'. lol Awesome :luv2

To get on topic, oh wait I do not know what else could be said about this subject.

ayu_ready? 22nd January 2012 07:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Suteisi (Post 2806628)
I love GACKT as well but I can't see them together, to be honest. I find GACKT a bit too feminine for Ayu... she seems to love guys that are very manly... lol

considering his height he fits in her "much taller than Ayu" category, lol :innocent

femtrooper 22nd January 2012 10:14 PM

haha, no Gackt for Ayu!!! XD I don't think she should be thinking about dating right now. I think she needs to take a break because she just got out of a marriage. It obviously didn't work so she needs some time.

Fevenita 22nd January 2012 10:40 PM

Ouch I only now heard about this for the first time, I'm so sad for both Ayu and Mannie :( Hopefully everything goes well for them in the future.

ownsarai 22nd January 2012 10:46 PM

I'd hope Ayu wouldn't just jump into another relationship right after her divorce. That wouldn't be very smart. Also, those who say she should get back together with Tomoya...didn't he get married himself? >_>

And this rumor about Ayu breaking it off with Mannie because of his photobook. If that were really true, I'm sorry, but I would lose a lot of respect for Ayu because that just says to me that she's shallow. But I seriously do not think that is the case at all.

I just hope Ayu will remain strong and I wish both Ayu and Mannie good luck. Because honestly, Mannie seems like a great person and I hope he also finds some happiness.

femtrooper 22nd January 2012 11:04 PM

I just think it ended because she married him too quickly. She rushed into something...I mean, she barely knew Mannie. She married someone she knew like 1/2 a year. It was kind of the inevitable that she got a divorce.

happiholic★ 22nd January 2012 11:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by saigodansu (Post 2806500)
I don't think it had to do with the book either, unless that was the last of many straws. All their tweets back and forth since March, seem in hindsight to be covering problems going back as far as February. All year she was answering fans saying he would come to a concert, they just couldn't decide a date for it. Then when he tweeted and she replied calling him an idiot in japanese it got more obvious. June was the most obvious, her in Bali while he was at multiple birthday parties in LA. But then she continued to wear the rings and tweet him back occasionally so no one gave it a second thought.

I think I remember Ayu calling Mannie an idiot, because I found it cute. She was responding to him saying "I'm learning Japanese". She wrote "Bakane~". It was a joke.


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