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That's their opinion, it's subjective. I'm arguing that they could not that they should or whatever. |
^^ Imagine the versions.
50CD 50CD+10DVD 50CD+2CD+10DVD 50CD+5CD+20DVD+teacup |
^ I so want the tea cup!
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And of course they COULD call it a single. They could call it an AYUDOM, or bulingle, or Mcdoubleingle... it doesn't matter, it will show up on the charts as an album because thats what it is. =) |
I'm expecting a dvd, a lifestyle vol.2, a calendar, but i think they aren't goint to release another album with remixes, if she releases mini-albums with remixes, what is the point for a new ayu-ro-mix, ayu trance or whatever, IMO. :)
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Probably for album tracks from other albums. Like from NEXT LEVEL onward?
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For me, it's not the length but the number new songs. She routinely had singles that we're this long but they didn't charge the price of a mini album for them. I can see no good reason really to call it a mini album other than the two theories others have posted. And that's fine. It's Avexs choice and the consumers choice to decide whether the content is worth paying the higher price - especially when there is a very good chance that all the songs will eventually be released in some form of compilation. |
^ the article I found and posted was actually pretty interesting...
but basically because of the advance of technology and what not... the lines of a 'single' and a 'mini-album' have bled together. frankly you are right... by definition, ayumi does not have 50 singles, because of her crazy maxi-singles saga that she had at the height of her career, but I think because they were billed as singles, she would count them as singles. |
Yeah, what defines mini album and single in Japan is very confusing. Basically there is no logic to it and every company decides for themselves and constantly makes up their own definition based on whatever they think will make them the most money at any given time.
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^ also, about the price thing...
Im pretty sure they could of gotten away with charging for less, because the way that the CD market was back then... but when your average artist sales anywhere from 80K-250K you tend to charge more... (compared to 10 years ago) look at AKB... they have been selling singles like crazy... and if you look at their single price compared to others that dont sell has much... they tend to me lower. (not a lot... but lower) |
http://ayufan.com/blog/wp-content/up...2012/09/50.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/FG413.jpgIf she's going to give us an "ayumi hamasaki WORLD TOUR 2013 A 〜15th Anniversary〜" I would be willing to buy something like that. |
^ that is amazing!
where can i sign up for it?? |
The Britney set is called the Singles Collection. It is around US $200. That's what I saw on Amazon a while back. Might have changed by now. I wonder what Avex would charge for something like that.
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I want ayupan reissue for 15th anniverary
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It think its coool we'll knoe about the 8th Dec release even before LOVE is released..technically 6 weeks before the release, there'll be info.. (by standards).
definitely lots and lots of Ayu every other week from now onwards :D |
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i wonder how many zeroes i'll be counting for this :thud but this would be the best gift ever :love |
Avex sorta did that Globe's 15th anniversary
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This is for real collector because the price is very very expensive lol
¥45000 = 500 € O_o crazy |
Oh I get it.
Tons of songs = mini-albums (please T_T) If there will be mini-albums... MINI ALBUMS = NO "FULL" ALBUM WITH SAME SONGS (like MOON, blossom etc was on Love songs after the singles realese...) MINI ALBUMS = propably "bigger" realese than single = more pics / maybe booklet. That will please me. |
oh, man! I can not afford 500 euros... lol
I still havnt bought her PV collection... :*( |
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If this gonna be happen for real, the price will kill us XDDDD Edit: Oh well, I forgot about Anniversary Thanks Price (like she did with A COMPLETE, only 4800 yen). She should use this campaign again if she will release anything on her anniversary. :P |
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Even if it was like 500 or 600 bucks I would sooooooooooooooo buy this :love It looks incredible :cry Great work! |
of of course, it needs to include all her albums, and dvd's... in BLU-RAY!
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I hope she won't release something more expensive than the A CLIP BOX!!! LOL
Otherwise my purse is gonna cry. |
I hope we get magazines every month till April...
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What about a fragrance?
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^A la The Fame? Not bad! :luv2
I wonder why we still don't have calendar peeks for 2013. Maybe this month? It'll be nice if the calendar shoots will be released on the same week as Love's cover release. :) |
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^Totally jelly. I want the Britney boxset, too.
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I just want another Ayu video game :P
And first press bonuses |
I seriously would LOVE another Ayu game or even just like... software with a bunch of fun random stuff in it. Combination of A VISUAL MIX and the LOVEppears CD-Extra. But an updated A TYPE would be AMAZING since the original was SO fun but the it won't run on modern systems at all now. :(
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i would hate this box..
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OMG I didn't even see the one someone made with all the ayu covers. Great job!! still hope it never happens...lol I would be so mad
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Well ayaka almost released all of her singles in a collection box but it got cancelled... I would buy a singles collection from Ayu because I only have talkin 2 myself. She can release all of her studio albums with the reduced pricing like Namie did. I wouldn't mind that.
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I would hate/love it as well...
hate because I would have to buy it. Love, because.. well it would be amazing... although i have most (all but 2) of her singles. |
^you own more singles than ME?!??! lol which two are you missing?
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poker face and you...
I still need to fins them... plus I guess I should mention that I only have the CD+DVD versions of the ones with that option. |
^So did I, and now I'm working on getting the CD-only versions for the ones that have different covers. Right now the CD-onlys I still need are Startin' / Born To Be..., BLUE BIRD, and Bold & Delicious I think...all of which I'm gonna order with my pre-order for LOVE :)
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^ once I start working... I plan on doing that too... lol
but working one day a week... what little money I have, well goes to bills... :*( |
^Yeah, since getting a roommate, I have a lot more cash to myself, so I'm trying to complete my ayu collection while I can! So much money though...omg...lol
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I'm scared to know how much you guys have spent on Ayu! But, I spend most of my money on video games, so I can't talk. I have owned probably 100 video games in my lifetime. I currently own about 80. But, lately I have been spending all my money on brand name clothing.
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I used to spend a lot more on ayu, I have for example all the versions of NEXT LEVEL, You were.../BALLAD, MOON/blossom, crossroad, L, Love songs, FIVE...
Now I just get one version of whatever she's releasing, although if she released a new single not sure what I would do, depending on the different versions :thud |
Time to squeeze more money out of the fans, huh?
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^ Not really. It's not like she's been releasing a lot of stuff lately.
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Imagine if Ayu released a best-of compiling all five releases later on...
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I think they might plan that, sadly.
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I would honestly be very upset if they did that if I bought all the releases before it. I've had things like that happen once before, but I ended up selling the things I didn't need. This time I'm going to wait until the end and see what they decide to do, since the DVD version isn't limited. I only buy DVD versions, since I actually have a Japanese DVD player I feel the need to put it to use. I don't want it to feel unloved.
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It will love you forever, I'm sure! http://www.smileyparadies.de/kaos/149.gif |
This time I'll only buy something if it have really limited (and interesting for me) things... I'll buy them all in the future, but I'm planning going to Japan next year in April and I need to save up mone, this all is too much >.<
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i thought Memorial Address would be the first n last mini album ayu will ever released, but then FIVE came out, and now these...
MA still the best mini album imo.. |
^Well, its going to be hard for LOVE to compare to MA, since MA has more songs and PVs. MA and FIVE are more comparable.
Wasn't Secret originally supposed to be a mini, too? |
^Yeah, Secret was supposed to be a mini at first. But I don't know why they changed it.
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^ she said that she was inspired and added something like 8 songs.
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This is a great news!! I'm so happy to know she's doing something special~~ I like that! :)
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I love it when artists do such consecutive releases! There is always so much more excitement for the releases! (at least for me^-^)
I don't care if it's a mini or a single. In the end I can't afford 5 minis nor 5 consecutive singles and will download it either way. |
^That's a good way of looking at it :laugh
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^I know, right? :D
And honestly, most of us will download those minis and wouldn't even buy them if they were singles. Only 39 CD's of LOVE were preordered so far here at ahs and some people ordered multiple versions (see the LOVE purchase count thread). So why be angry about it? See the positive site: THERE WILL BE A LOT OF NEW AYU MUSIC EVERY ****ING MONTH! For the case she releases every month music and not a calendar or DVD or so. I would be very pissed if something that would be released regardless will be added to this. But I'm hoping that avex and Ayu learned from Acid Black Cherry's 5 month 5 singles project. I mean it was VERY good promotion and so yasu got the number one instead of Ayu. Just a thought: maybe they really want to make the same thing with Ayu. But 'cos yasu made it just one year ago and this way he took the number one away from Ayu they want to prevent people saying she just copies this. So maybe they really will release only minis or minis and singles - so that the project is basically the same but still different. |
^I could see that, yeah. But, as you said, as long as there is new music, its all good :D
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otherwise we wouldn't have gotten momentum and i'd be a bit more empty inside. |
^Or Jewel!!
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Many of us don't buy this mini-album, because we think she could release the songs in a future album or because we are poor :)
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:shakehead that's creepy 5 consecutive stuff collection :tired
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^Creepy?
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^yup that's the feeling of my purse! and 15th Anniversary avex will be releasing some collections or boxes |
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I don't mind to see box with two HOTEL Love Songs concerts on blu ray.
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^ wouldnt mind very much as long we got something extra with it...
maybe a new photoshoot or something. |
^I think that would still suck, even with the photobook or whatever. What would have been the point of buying the prior releases?
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^ why not? :p
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Save money, space on my shelf for new releases, etc. I'm no collector, so for me its a waste. I was really upset when I bought Kuu's 4 TIMES and all of it was released on Japonesque. I traded it for a crap ton of expensive Japanese candy :P
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^ nope.. I keep all her singles.
I never understood people you bought singles and then complained that they were on an album. :shrug. But this coming from a girl who went to a Gwen stefani concert but doesnt really enjoy her music? |
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And I don't understand what that last comment had to do with anything, except to be an insult towards me. But, if that's the kind of character you want to portray, go right ahead. |
^ LOL... you thought that was an insult? I guess thats just the kind of person you are.
Since you dont understand, let me explain I was referring to you spending money on something that you particular didn't care for ( Gwen stefani concert). When we talked, I do believe, in this thread about ayumi making new music or not and how it would effect her concerts. I said mainly fans go and way would someone that doesnt care for her music go to a concert. You said you didnt care for Gwen stefani, but went to her concert. So.... if you have money to blow on something you dont care for... why worry about a single that has all the songs on an album? |
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Chill girl.
How could I take that out of context? Did you not mean what you were saying? I took a statement that you said, not to prove a point, but for discussion. You said you thought that the release would 'suck' and the reason why was because you could save money, have space, stuff like that. But yet, you mentioned earlier that you would spend money on something that you particularly did not like. I dont see why you are so offend over it? Who cares if you traded a single for candy? Go to concerts that you dont care for? I just said I like my singles and keep them. I know they they are going to be on the next album, but that doesn't bother me. |
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First off, I never said that the release would suck. I said it would suck, for me, if she released all these minis and I bought them, only for her to release an album containing them, because its not cost efficient for me, being the type of J-Pop buyer that I am. It would be the situation, not the release itself. I don't know if you misunderstood that, or are just trying to twist my words. Again, the point of my Gwen Stefani comment was not that I go to concerts for artists that I don't care for. I am, in fact, a Gwen Stefani fan. Is she my #1 favorite singer? No, but I still like her a lot. So, again, you must have misunderstood because you keep insisting that's what I said, when I didn't. EDIT: I've reported this whole discussion. Its not going anywhere and is OT. The other members don't deserve this. I'm done. Say what you want, I'm not talking about it anymore. |
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So no I am not trying to twist your words, you just did not convey what you were thinking fully. That's not my fault, nor my problem. Quote:
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It might not be for you... we have different taste, after all I like my singles with music on them and if they appear on the album, it doesn't bother me. I don't view that as a waste, you do. We are different people. You just saw offence when there was none being given. That's why i said chill. you took something I said out of context. I'm not trying to be rude mind you. |
Since you didn't see my edit...
Personally, I do feel like taking the entire conversation into consideration helps put the comments in perspective and to not kind of... assume the worst out of my comments. Like, we were talking about hardcore Ayu fans, versus casual listeners of her music. Plus, I also stated that Gwen had just gone solo, hence why I went to go see her, even as a more casual listener. But, I can see where you are coming from, so I will say that I will try in the future to be even more clear in my comments. |
^ yes yes... We just (miss)understood each other. (see what I did there :D)
But its not just you about comments... I do it too... (personal I think we all do it in some form or another) I do it in my writing... I think of something in my head, but dont put the complete thought down while Im typing it... lol It would make sense to me... but others dont get it, because only I have the complete thought. lol |
^And now we agree completely and totally understand one another :laugh
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^ yep!
Something on topic: We should be getting photo shoots soon! I wonder why she has been so quite lately about stuff like this... it seemed before and during party queen she wouldn't shut up about stuff. Now... Nada. |
AHS went down, I thought something (covers) leaked or sth :(
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now she twit about recording in studio. Seems songs are not ready yet and PVs are just in plans |
Maybe they're for the release in December?
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^maybe
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I think it's simple four new singles and one conmemorative album, 5 mini albums is so crazy
I think this will never happens, and I'm sure this MINI ALBUM will be so good, FIVE is the worst minialbum ever. |
We will ****** rainbow, I tell you.
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This anti-FIVE sentiment is just... no. |
I'm happy with the news because it means a bunch of new songs but I don't know if releasing so many mini-albums is gonna work... I think it'd be a better strategy to do something similar to Koda Kumi's 12 singles: release 1 single (limited copies) per month and after that a BEST ~15th anniversary~ with all the new songs and PVs.
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I wouldn't be surprised if they filmed the PV when she was in LA for a few random days last month. |
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That is if this filming is for these PV's and not some future realize? She might not have the last song done however. |
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