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ava_dreams 4th December 2012 04:15 AM

I've seen better, I've seen worse. She does look stunning.

Thanx for the link

AyUmIXx 4th December 2012 04:30 AM

overall, she did good job, love her vibrations in parts that didn't sound too much.. it's just perfect. she just did off tune for 2 u yeah 4 u yeah part.. aside of that, i love this performance.

monochrome99 4th December 2012 04:38 AM

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Originally Posted by SunshineSlayer (Post 2941240)
I'm sorry, but that just shows a fundamental lack of understanding of Japanese culture. It may not make sense to us, but it does make sense in Japan. I personally don't agree with it at all. I would love for all this to be false because I love ayu on music station and especially at the super live. But like maikeru, I'm almost certain she is banned. I hope I'm wrong though or that the problem gets solved.

Most frustrating thing for me actually is Mika's tweet because I just can't get my head around the thought process of posting that. It's lol worthy in its stupidity for me. :)

What was mika's tweet if you don't mind me asking?

jang-kun 4th December 2012 05:09 AM

She's drop dead gorgeous. But not to be so rude, is she sick? Her vocals are kinda frail to me. :(

Kirshwasser 4th December 2012 05:23 AM

those clothes that the dancers are wearing are exactly the same with the progress performance at KOUHAKU last year

pepper 4th December 2012 05:56 AM

she sound like she have cold or sth
she looks gorgeous, but nothing special, i never been a fan of tv-lives. they sound like a karaoke lives more than performance of big artist.

channy 4th December 2012 07:50 AM

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Originally Posted by pepper (Post 2941762)
i never been a fan of tv-lives. they sound like a karaoke lives more than performance of big artist.

Interesting! My attitude in that matter happens to be completely opposed to yours. I even dare to say that I prefer TV performances over concerts as they appear more genuine and less showy to me.

During concerts I often ask myself if her vocals are live or playback. This can hinder yourself from enjoying the music whereas TV appearances always seem convincingly live.

ExodusUK 4th December 2012 08:02 AM

She's out of practise...the reason why her vocals were so strong 10 or so years ago is because she was so used to singing live on a weekly basis with support/training..now it's been two or three months since the tour finished ^_^ by CDL comes around, she should be all warmed up and okay ^_^

ExodusUK 4th December 2012 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Kirshwasser (Post 2941755)
those clothes that the dancers are wearing are exactly the same with the progress performance at KOUHAKU last year

LOL I just noticed, I wouldn't be surprised if this year's Kouhaku performance is just the same as this live.

SunshineSlayer 4th December 2012 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Kinder Surprise (Post 2941739)
What was mika's tweet if you don't mind me asking?

Mika took a message that Ayu had sent her privately and posted it on twitter. This was a couple of days after she missed the music station appearance. In Ayu's message, she said that she is sick and can't sing for a while.

I can only think that Mika posted it because she thought that would make people more sympathetic if they knew Ayu was sick? But it actually caused more damage because now it looked Avex/Ayu maybe lied about not being able to make it physically to music station and that the real reason might have been because Ayu was worried about the condition of her voice.

channy 4th December 2012 10:19 AM

^ They possibly weren't able to take their flight back to Japan as planned because of Ayu's illness, so how come you assume that either Ayu or Avex could have lied?

isthisLOL? 4th December 2012 10:24 AM

It's weird how many people here are against lipsynching, but seem to forget that big parts of some of Ayumi's most popular concerts are full playback. Just saying.
I'm glad she stopped lipping recently, her vocals are so much better now than 2005-2009 anyways.

njanjayrp 4th December 2012 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by isthisLOL? (Post 2941829)
It's weird how many people here are against lipsynching, but seem to forget that big parts of some of Ayumi's most popular concerts are full playback. Just saying.

Yeah and you used to be the one who kept pointing it out like it was really important. I don't see a problem with people being against regardless of the fact that Ayu has done it. I am against it, yet I am a fan of hers and I'm fully aware that she has done it so many times.

isthisLOL? 4th December 2012 10:35 AM

I pointed it out when people pretended it was live, not when people accepted the playback. So many people here used to pretend Ayumi is a godess that would never even think of lipping and that ignorance and attitude quite frankly pisses me off.
I myself don't mind it much if the rest of the performance is good, I just can't stand people pretending it doesn't happen. Of course the same performance live I always prefer, but Ayumi has good reasons to lip so when she does it well...perfectly fine.

channy 4th December 2012 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by isthisLOL? (Post 2941831)
Ayumi has good reasons to lip so when she does it well...perfectly fine.

D':

That's totally beyond my comprehension. How can a singer have reasons to cheat on the audience? The usage of playbacks is actually likely to be one of the main factors, people often assume the genre as cheap and trashy.

mizuki-7 4th December 2012 12:13 PM

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are full playback
Don't exaggerating she has never done a concert full playback... Maybe 50/50 but not the entiere show and it's like 3/4 Lives (2007/2008/2009) sorry if i forget something but at this time she a lot of vocal problems & deafness (it's not an excuse but she had a reason)
I don't deny she has lips sync in the past but she never done that before 2006 (maybe one or two time) and has not done this since 2010 ! so there is a reason ! I think ^^

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That's totally beyond my comprehension. How can a singer have reasons to cheat on the audience? The usage of playbacks is actually likely to be one of the main factors, people often assume the genre as cheap and trashy.
I agree ^^ Like britney spears full playback ...

SunshineSlayer 4th December 2012 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by channy (Post 2941828)
^ They possibly weren't able to take their flight back to Japan as planned because of Ayu's illness, so how come you assume that either Ayu or Avex could have lied?

I didn't. I said that it opened up the possibility for people to think that so it made no sense that she should post Ayu's message. Being sick would not have been considered a valid excuse to miss music station anyways.

pepper 4th December 2012 12:26 PM

Ayu is using halth playback on concerts I think.

isthisLOL? 4th December 2012 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by mizuki-7 (Post 2941851)
Don't exaggerating she has never done a concert full playback... Maybe 50/50 but not the entiere show and it's like 3/4 Lives (2007/2008/2009) sorry if i forget something but at this time she a lot of vocal problems & deafness (it's not an excuse but she had a reason)
I don't deny she has lips sync in the past but she never done that before 2006 (maybe one or two time) and has not done this since 2010 ! so there is a reason ! I think ^^


I agree ^^ Like britney spears full playback ...

I'm sorry, I wasn't being totally clear there. With "full playback" I meant that in a particular song she lips the entire thing, not that the whole concert is playback ;) "Full playback" is just to differentiate from using a backtrack(which is having a playback but also singing live vocals over it, Lady Gaga does that in all her upbeat songs for example) or half-playback(parts of a song are playback, other parts of the same song are live).

Ayumi first did playback(half-playback) in CT00 afaik(not sure which of the two) btw, in Trauma the final chorus was lipped from the studio version, I'm guessing because she's scared of heights and performed that part while hanging over the stage.
The only concerts of hers in which playback annoys me are AT05, AT07 and CDL0809(she just fell and got out of the hospital, so this one is excused for me) - but aside that I think that, given her hearing problems and since hearing is THE most important thing about vocal performance, her lipping a few songs every now and then until 2009 was just fine :)

Britney doesn't do full playback that often anymore btw, she mainly uses backtracks nowadays. She's a weird case, when you watch fan recordings of her tours she clearly sings some songs live, but on the DVD/Bluray you hear the studio versions.

adantatu2 4th December 2012 05:46 PM

The Mika you are talking about is Mika Nakashima ???

Bigtop 4th December 2012 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by adantatu2 (Post 2941996)
The Mika you are talking about is Mika Nakashima ???

Yeah, I was wondering about that.

ayumisrael 4th December 2012 08:03 PM

Probably Mika Noguchi of Peach John :)

MeyChan 5th December 2012 01:14 AM

Waiting for FNS~ *-*
I hope she doesn't sing Song 4 U again.

truehappiness 5th December 2012 01:35 AM

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Originally Posted by MeyChan (Post 2942177)
Waiting for FNS~ *-*
I hope she doesn't sing Song 4 U again.

I think she may be more likely to do how beautiful you are or something a bit slower. Song 4 u could be a bit too exciting for FNS.

1999 - appears
2000 - M
2001 - Dearest
2002 - Voyage
2003 - No way to say
2004 - Moments
2005 - Pride
2006 - JEWEL
2007 - Together When...
2008 - SEASONS + Days

Closest track to Song 4 u would be M but... who knows? I hope she looks amazing.

TeamAyu2004 5th December 2012 02:54 AM

heres hopin for something off of again.

Coelacanth 5th December 2012 03:18 AM

How long until FNS airs?

Bigtop 5th December 2012 03:46 AM

6 hours, 14 minutes to go...

kinix 5th December 2012 03:49 AM

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Originally Posted by truehappiness (Post 2942184)
I think she may be more likely to do how beautiful you are or something a bit slower. Song 4 u could be a bit too exciting for FNS.

1999 - appears
2000 - M
2001 - Dearest
2002 - Voyage
2003 - No way to say
2004 - Moments
2005 - Pride
2006 - JEWEL
2007 - Together When...
2008 - SEASONS + Days

Closest track to Song 4 u would be M but... who knows? I hope she looks amazing.

She could sing Sweet scar or melody ^^

jang-kun 5th December 2012 05:49 AM

Sweet scar for FNS please omg i would die happily :luv2

ohsixthirty 5th December 2012 05:57 AM

please NOT song 4 u. :(

elvis810 5th December 2012 06:09 AM

the HEY! x 3 performance was extremely disappointing and boring to watch. She's basically recycling her performance ideas aka fairyland... i expected somthing more from her after such a long absence from TV shows. ew...

pommy48 5th December 2012 06:50 AM

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Originally Posted by adantatu2 (Post 2941996)
The Mika you are talking about is Mika Nakashima ???

Mika John, Ayu's close friend and CEO of Peach John

Bigtop 5th December 2012 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by pommy48 (Post 2942249)
Mika John, Ayu's close friend and CEO of Peach John

OK, I see - Mika Noguchi, that is... And I don't know if Mika Nakashima even have a Twitter or not...most likely officially not

YUKARI 5th December 2012 09:00 AM

I hope for Sweet scar!! it's perfect for FNS :heart

freedreamer 5th December 2012 09:07 AM

has FNS started??? hope we get images asap ahha

mizuki-7 5th December 2012 09:25 AM

I really hope she will not sing Song 4 you ! I want a song from Again & Appears or other old song lol

YUKARI 5th December 2012 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by freedreamer (Post 2942293)
has FNS started??? hope we get images asap ahha

in 30 min!

AyuWorld 5th December 2012 09:33 AM

can we watch it live? on KHTV??

saigodansu 5th December 2012 09:40 AM

I can't find the channel after KHTV forced an update

mizuki-7 5th December 2012 09:40 AM

yes you can if it works with you ! mine don't shows Fuji TV ... sad XD

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I can't find the channel after KHTV forced an update
Me too ...

AyuWorld 5th December 2012 09:41 AM

the FujiTV name on KTV is in japanese?

saigodansu 5th December 2012 09:42 AM

looks like they removed Fuji TV, NTV and Asahi

AyuWorld 5th December 2012 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by ohsixthirty (Post 2942245)
please NOT song 4 u. :(

yes please after that Hey3 performance (her dancer used teh same outfit as at Kouhaku and the same choreography as in fairyland perf) so i want something fresh, Melody or Sweet car would be great :yes

truehappiness 5th December 2012 09:48 AM

It is not "FujiTV" in the listing. It shows up as ISHIKAWASANTEREBI.

http://puu.sh/1xmD5

AyuWorld 5th December 2012 09:54 AM

^
and how is it written in romaji?

mizuki-7 5th December 2012 09:56 AM

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It is not "FujiTV" in the listing. It shows up as ISHIKAWASANTEREBI.

Oh thanks ^^

~angel*ayumi~ 5th December 2012 09:59 AM

Itīs written in Kanji, but you can easy find it, tehre is only one program on my list at least without password and long kanji name^^

PS: Anyone knows the lineup when Ayu will sing?

attractive nausea 5th December 2012 10:00 AM

Yeah and it's the one with the highest number of watchers x)

saigodansu 5th December 2012 10:05 AM

Thanks found it

truehappiness 5th December 2012 10:06 AM

OMG I THINK AYU IS GOING TO SING WITH HIROMI GO. It mentioned "dream collaborations" which is what's going on right now.

Then again, they may have just shown some random artists... and they showed SMAP x AKB48 at the start.

saigodansu 5th December 2012 10:08 AM

Now if system administrator would stop kicking it offline it would be great

SunshineSlayer 5th December 2012 10:12 AM

Yeah, collabs are a big part of it again this year. I think we will finally see one on fns from Ayu. :)

Kuu on right now singing Ai no Uta.

AyuWorld 5th December 2012 10:14 AM

ok im watching it now! cool!

AyuGAME 5th December 2012 10:19 AM

please share the tutorial to watch FNS on keyhole

edit : got it..i can watch it now

AyuWorld 5th December 2012 10:21 AM

^
DL KTV install, and watch it from the channel list

edit! Ayu is going to perform soon right, or is that one of the collaboration?

~angel*ayumi~ 5th December 2012 10:29 AM

I have the feeling FNS is one big commercial interrupted by some performances xD

AyuGAME 5th December 2012 10:31 AM

^Yup..got it

Nana Mizuki is up now..singing with...old guy

AyuWorld 5th December 2012 10:34 AM

oh so it's her lol ok xD but its a beautiful song ^^

AyuGAME 5th December 2012 10:35 AM

For me FNS since last year fully loaded with AKB48 girls...collaborate with lot of artist, pop here and there...

mizuki-7 5th December 2012 10:36 AM

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For me FNS since last year fully loaded with AKB48 girls...collaborate with lot of artist, pop here and there...
Yes I don't really like that ...

truehappiness 5th December 2012 10:36 AM

Ah, I love Cosmos. However, that song didn't really work with Nana and that guy.

AHAHAHA AT THE LTE ELT CM HAHAHAHAHAHA OH MY GODD AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHAAAAAA That last part where Mocchi and Ikkun are just looking at screen like "Really?".....

Sexy Zone = pretty horrible.

AyuWorld 5th December 2012 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by AyuGAME (Post 2942334)
For me FNS since last year fully loaded with AKB48 girls...collaborate with lot of artist, pop here and there...

yea like FNS uta no matsuri :grumpy

AyuWorld 5th December 2012 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by truehappiness (Post 2942336)
Ah, I love Cosmos. However, that song didn't really work with Nana and that guy.

AHAHAHA AT THE LTE ELT CM HAHAHAHAHAHA OH MY GODD AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHAAAAAA That last part where Mocchi and Ikkun are just looking at screen like "Really?".....

Sexy Zone = pretty horrible.

Loved that ELT LTE CM and Otou san! haha

AyuGAME 5th December 2012 10:43 AM

i don't have any heart feelings towards AKB or SKE or whatever with 48, but sometimes, they need to know when the time to give other artist time to shine...
it's too much sometimes...

waiting for Ayu...

truehappiness 5th December 2012 10:47 AM

Well, they are popular so that's why they get featured everywhere.

I personally don't care for the different versions of them though. (AKB, Nogizaka, SKE, etc)

roanmy 5th December 2012 10:48 AM

Does anybody know when Ayu will be on? :)

truehappiness 5th December 2012 10:52 AM

She just tweeted that she's gonna start soon!

roanmy 5th December 2012 10:53 AM

I wonder if she personally is standing in the green room tweeting, or if she has an assistant doing it. =P

truehappiness 5th December 2012 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by roanmy (Post 2942345)
I wonder if she personally is standing in the green room tweeting, or if she has an assistant doing it. =P

She's probably tweeting herself as usual, haha. I think she does this before concerts too.

Yay, Mocchi and Fuyu ga Hajimaru yo! BTW this guy who is singing with her and sang with EXILE is the guy who wrote Sweet Season.

AyuGAME 5th December 2012 11:03 AM

Koda with TRF now

truehappiness 5th December 2012 11:03 AM

Oh dang, I just saw TK on the keyboards, hahahahaha.

attractive nausea 5th December 2012 11:04 AM

Kuu get out we already saw you give us Ayu now :P

~angel*ayumi~ 5th December 2012 11:04 AM

They have really good collaborations ^^

AyuWorld 5th December 2012 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by truehappiness (Post 2942347)
She's probably tweeting herself as usual, haha. I think she does this before concerts too.

Yay, Mocchi and Fuyu ga Hajimaru yo! BTW this guy who is singing with her and sang with EXILE is the guy who wrote Sweet Season.

er wait you mean Noriyuki Makihara??

Loved the collabs of Kuu and TRF and ELT with Noriyuki Makihara too!

truehappiness 5th December 2012 11:07 AM

Yeah. He has a really distinct look. He didn't really fit with EXILE though.

Watching ARASHI try to dance is pretty hilarious imo, haha.

ayumisrael 5th December 2012 11:10 AM

Their voices live aren't all that as well xD

SunshineSlayer 5th December 2012 11:10 AM

Koda collabed with TRF; I thought it would be Ayu.

Also, Arashi really just brought it.

ayumisrael 5th December 2012 11:11 AM

I would ayu would be with kuu but I can keep on dreaming apparentely. I wonder who ayu will collab with.

roanmy 5th December 2012 11:16 AM

Is it ALL collaborations this year? No solos?

AyUmIXx 5th December 2012 11:18 AM

i doubt ayu will collaborate with anyone..she's been so long no do that..but maybe with Kishidan??

~angel*ayumi~ 5th December 2012 11:18 AM

Exile + Arashi had solo performances, Smap too^^

roanmy 5th December 2012 11:19 AM

Well, she did have two songs on FIVE, plus Dream ON. Though, yeah... in a setting like this, it almost seems unnatural.

truehappiness 5th December 2012 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by roanmy (Post 2942367)
Is it ALL collaborations this year? No solos?

Every five or six songs, there's a non collab. I hope Ayu gets a solo -and- a collab section.

kinix 5th December 2012 11:20 AM

AKB is asking for slap >.<

roanmy 5th December 2012 11:21 AM

I just hope she doesn't sing Song 4 U again. I don't really care for it, and I want Missing or Sweet Scar!

YUKARI 5th December 2012 11:21 AM

LTE ELT CM is the best among those CMs about LTE!!!

AKB48 now performing GIVE ME FIVE. btw I was so surprised by Kashiwagi Yuki!! She's got such a clear voice :love

AyuGAME 5th December 2012 11:23 AM

AKB48 again...
oh my...its not FNS
its AKB48 featuring other artist

SunshineSlayer 5th December 2012 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by ~angel*ayumi~ (Post 2942331)
I have the feeling FNS is one big commercial interrupted by some performances xD

From the 7-8 hour they throw in tons of cms. From 8 on though its less.

Quote:

Originally Posted by truehappiness (Post 2942371)
Every five or six songs, there's a non collab. I hope Ayu gets a solo -and- a collab section.

For the most part, all artists on the show will have one collab plus one solo. And in the case of some acts like AKB - they have like 5 performances. :thud

ayumisrael 5th December 2012 11:25 AM

I don't think there are high chances that ayu will sing other song than Song 4 u (from the new ones) since the CD isn't in stores yet and it's not likely because usually they don't sing songs before their release and for kouhaku I can see Song 4 u as this year's progress.

Hideaki Tokunaga with...?

truehappiness 5th December 2012 11:26 AM

I can see Song 4 u at Kouhaku, but not here. Ayu doesn't seem to like to do upbeat stuff at this even but it may be the first time she does a non-ballad.

AyuWorld 5th December 2012 11:27 AM

i have feeling this gonna be like FNS Uta No Matsuri, Ayu is going to perform last and no collabs maybe =.= seems a bit awkward if she does a collabs with these type of ballads xD

truehappiness 5th December 2012 11:28 AM

She was shown in the beginning when they announced collaborations at the end of the intro with Hiromi Go (?) next to her which will probably be who she collaborates with. I hope she gets her own segment though.

AND LOOOL THE ELT LTE CMS SADHSADSAIDSAHDISDHI

YUKARI 5th December 2012 11:28 AM

Haha!!! The second CM wit ELT LTE!!! God bless SoftBank :laugh

SunshineSlayer 5th December 2012 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by ayumisrael (Post 2942377)
I don't think there are high chances that ayu will sing other song than Song 4 u (from the new ones) since the CD isn't in stores yet and it's not likely because usually they don't sing songs before their release and for kouhaku I can see Song 4 u as this year's progress.

Hideaki Tokunaga with...?

Huh? Ayu has sung songs before their release a lot. Just not recently.

Yay, Princess Princess. :)

truehappiness 5th December 2012 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by YUKARI (Post 2942382)
Haha!!! The second CM wit ELT LTE!!! God bless SoftBank :laugh

I wonder if Time goes by got a resurgence because of those CMs.

AyuWorld 5th December 2012 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by YUKARI (Post 2942382)
Haha!!! The second CM wit ELT LTE!!! God bless SoftBank :laugh

HAHAAHA yeah i like it a lot! :laugh

ayumisrael 5th December 2012 11:32 AM

Sorry, I forgot to insert the recently :).

PRINCESS PRINCESS is still singing? She's the one with the song "M" right?

And ELT's CM is awesome lol.

truehappiness 5th December 2012 11:32 AM

Ahh, I LOVE Diamonds!!!!

SunshineSlayer 5th December 2012 11:32 AM

btw, I think Ayu will do a collab. It seems the last few years its basically a requirement. If she is the only artist not to do one, that's just going to bring bad press.

I was sure it would be TRF though. No clue now.

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Originally Posted by ayumisrael (Post 2942387)
Sorry, I forgot to insert the recently :).

PRINCESS PRINCESS is still singing? She's the one with the song "M" right?

And ELT's CM is awesome lol.

They retired but came back this year for a Tokyo Dome show.

AyuGAME 5th December 2012 11:32 AM

yeah.i think she will sing song 4 U
there is so much upbeat song on this FNS...why not for Ayu?


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