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Bigtop 13th April 2015 04:58 AM

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Originally Posted by KarenPang (Post 3131710)
5th day - #4 again

http://www.oricon.co.jp/rank/ja/d/2015-04-11/

So it's safe to assume A ONE will get #4 overall since it has been #4 for 4 straight days ?

At least it will chart higher than Colours which's not a bad thing imo

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Originally Posted by brener (Post 3131764)
We have to know if SAS already outsold A ONE first day

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Originally Posted by pimenta (Post 3131811)
^ They did. SAS so far this week sold 29,367 + the first day we don't know, and their sales are not going down, so it's very likely Ayu will get #4...

Yeah, Southern All Stars. :eviltongu

Ayu getting 'unlucky' #4...better than Colours, but then again I don't know what the view is regarding the physical sales.

2015 is not the same as 2012, 2010 or any other year, that's for sure.

Delicious n Bold 13th April 2015 05:08 AM

Just think, she sold 20k more copies this year than her one time rival ami suzuki

KarenPang 13th April 2015 11:19 AM

6th day -#5

http://www.oricon.co.jp/rank/ja/d/2015-04-12/

Southern All Stars could rank #2 overall now on the 2nd week , they sold 17,087 copies yesterday oO

brener 13th April 2015 01:35 PM

^ gosh '--' everyone's sales went up =\

chronos 13th April 2015 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Delicious n Bold (Post 3132050)
Just think, she sold 20k more copies this year than her one time rival ami suzuki

What's Ami Suzuki even doing these days? I used to love her. There's still a few songs by her that I listen to occasionally

chocopockymaster 13th April 2015 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by chronos (Post 3132174)
What's Ami Suzuki even doing these days?

Tending to her strawberry farm.

Pieces_of_SEVEN 13th April 2015 04:47 PM

I wonder if it has passed the zutto single yet...

ayumisrael 13th April 2015 05:57 PM

It will probably pass it on the 2nd week for sure.
And you have to write the whole name of the single!
Zutto.../Last minute/Walk please, on every type!!

j/k lol. ;)

Pieces_of_SEVEN 13th April 2015 06:01 PM

^LOL I thought about it but I'm like...that's too much!

chronos 13th April 2015 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by chocopockymaster (Post 3132207)
Tending to her strawberry farm.

Lol for real? I wouldn't be surprised as I heard sifow became a rice farmer:p

chocopockymaster 13th April 2015 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by chronos (Post 3132333)
Lol for real? I wouldn't be surprised as I heard sifow became a rice farmer:p

I'm dead serious, lol

edit: Receipts

She was selling special commemorative 15th anniversary strawberries.

https://31.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m...fhi2o1_400.gif

Delicious n Bold 13th April 2015 09:59 PM

Queen of strawberries
When will Ayu.
At least Ayu has an oricon chart position. The queen of strawberries has been N/A for a while now.

visionfactory 14th April 2015 11:39 AM

#3 ONENESS - miwa (50,255)
#4 A ONE - ayumi hamasaki (34,692)
#5 Fantastic Funfair - Mimori Suzuko (18,051)

YukiUsagi 14th April 2015 12:05 PM

#4 but sales < Colours :no:no:no

tsumekaze_ 14th April 2015 12:16 PM

BUY THIS ALBUM U JAPANESE PPL IT'S PERFECTION

attractive nausea 14th April 2015 12:25 PM

No matter how good the album is, if she doesn't do tons of tv lives/force herself into the japanese public eye (in a good way, she needs to make up for all her 2012 scandals), she won't sell.

KarenPang 14th April 2015 12:30 PM

A ONE is ranked #4 overall & Barks wrote that she has set another Oricon record again :O

Supposedly most number of Top 10 releases attained by a female solo act ?

http://www.barks.jp/news/?id=1000114638

Andrenekoi 14th April 2015 01:58 PM

^So, Ayu keeps breaking records even when she fails? Good!

dumbellz 14th April 2015 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by visionfactory (Post 3132570)
#3 ONENESS - miwa (50,255)
#4 A ONE - ayumi hamasaki (34,692)
#5 Fantastic Funfair - Mimori Suzuko (18,051)

Oh dear why is the sales worse than colour?!

ayumisrael 14th April 2015 02:31 PM

2nd Week
1st Day: Position: #6

Well, at least she got an achivement XD

I wrote it as -Solo artist with most albums (48 Studio/Mini/Compilation/Remix) in top 10

correct me if it's wrong.

KarenPang 14th April 2015 02:35 PM

A ONE definitely should have sold more given that this time round avex ramped up the promo a lot more than Colours

Even though it couldn't get #1 , hey at least there's another Oricon achievement attained which's not so bad

njanjayrp 14th April 2015 03:11 PM

Those Oricon achievements are kind of laughable...

//ABEST 14th April 2015 04:02 PM

this shows that Colours wasn't that bad in public eye :yes i thought it had low sales because of the style of the album but this is the proof i was wrong

Tom Punks 14th April 2015 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by dumbellz (Post 3132602)
Oh dear why is the sales worse than colour?!

Because sales don't ever really go up from one album to the next. The last time she outsold the previous album was probably Duty 15 years ago (if you don't count compilations since those always sell the most).

RealLight 14th April 2015 05:53 PM

I wonder how much A BEST 3 would sell (IF she decides to release it).

Matt_rq 14th April 2015 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by RealLight (Post 3132696)
I wonder how much A BEST 3 would sell (IF she decides to release it).

That scare me a little bit :( Maybe she can release A best of her "more dance" track (with new vocals or versions)

chronos 14th April 2015 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by chocopockymaster (Post 3132334)
I'm dead serious, lol

edit: Receipts

She was selling special commemorative 15th anniversary strawberries.

https://31.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m...fhi2o1_400.gif

That's so awesome. And super random. Ami still looks great! Must be all those strawberries.

brener 14th April 2015 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by RealLight (Post 3132696)
I wonder how much A BEST 3 would sell (IF she decides to release it).

I can't remember any artist who actually likes to release compilations of his work, but the point is if she will or not care about holding a huge number with it. She won't easily sell over 100k with a compilation promoting it only on radio stations and internet.

Delicious n Bold 14th April 2015 09:06 PM

Queen of record setting.

ayumisrael 14th April 2015 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Tom Punks (Post 3132683)
Because sales don't ever really go up from one album to the next. The last time she outsold the previous album was probably Duty 15 years ago (if you don't count compilations since those always sell the most).

Well MY STORY sold more than Memorial address and there still should be a drop between mini albums to studio albums released afterwards (like FIVE>Party Queen). =P

Tom Punks 14th April 2015 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by ayumisrael (Post 3132748)
Well MY STORY sold more than Memorial address and there still should be a drop between mini albums to studio albums released afterwards (like FIVE>Party Queen). =P

Regardless, depending on how you count it, it was 10-15 years ago lol

adantatu2 14th April 2015 09:48 PM

Is it a huge drop ?

rikku1994 14th April 2015 10:57 PM

tbh I kind of felt that this album is more of a promotional tool to promot AT2015.

Delicious n Bold 14th April 2015 11:13 PM

^ and she ended up only performing 3 or 4 songs from it :(

Andrenekoi 15th April 2015 02:22 AM

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Originally Posted by adantatu2 (Post 3132752)
Is it a huge drop ?

+-4k sales... Her lowest drop ever, I think.

LONJJONG 15th April 2015 06:16 AM

At least it's quite consistent since Feel the love, eh? I wonder if Japanese don't use social media often so they tend to rely on TV appearances for new releases.

Bigtop 15th April 2015 07:01 AM

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Originally Posted by visionfactory (Post 3132570)
#3 ONENESS - miwa (50,255)
#4 A ONE - ayumi hamasaki (34,692)
#5 Fantastic Funfair - Mimori Suzuko (18,051)

I'm quite disappointed at the numbers. 34,692 compared to 39,295. :(

Oh, why does this have to happen!? (What's even more surprising is Southern All Stars - they stole #2 away from miwa! I heard miwa also had quite a drop since her last album 'Delight'; her drop was much more than Ayu's. :caa)

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Originally Posted by KarenPang (Post 3132577)
A ONE is ranked #4 overall & Barks wrote that she has set another Oricon record again :O

Supposedly most number of Top 10 releases attained by a female solo act ?

http://www.barks.jp/news/?id=1000114638

Small win there, but it's meaningless when she gets overshadowed by Masaharu Fukuyama, miwa, and even Southern All Stars...

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Originally Posted by dumbellz (Post 3132602)
Oh dear why is the sales worse than colour?!

I'm not sure why. What happened to the Ayu fans recently???

Aderianu 15th April 2015 09:14 AM

I think it will not sell more thatn 42k copies

ayu pattern from 2004 - each next album sells less and less, and quality doesn't matter

KarenPang 15th April 2015 11:39 AM

2nd day on the 2nd week - #16

http://www.oricon.co.jp/rank/ja/d/2015-04-14/p/2/

njanjayrp 15th April 2015 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by //ABEST (Post 3132663)
this shows that Colours wasn't that bad in public eye :yes i thought it had low sales because of the style of the album but this is the proof i was wrong

The general public does not really care about Ayu.

visionfactory 15th April 2015 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by njanjayrp (Post 3132627)
Those Oricon achievements are kind of laughable...

They are. But AKB fans are just too excited about beating ayu in each one of this records...

brener 15th April 2015 01:17 PM

If the album was released today it would be #2 ^^

attractive nausea 15th April 2015 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by njanjayrp (Post 3132941)
The general public does not really care about Ayu.

Yeah, since the time she stopped selling 200k+ copies you can say she's been relying on her fanbase, but now with her sales dropping and dropping can we assume that her fanbase is getting smaller and smaller ?

+ AKB48 can't break ayu records because they're a group (and a huuuuuge one) whereas ayu is a soloist.

melissalove 15th April 2015 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by attractive nausea (Post 3132969)
Yeah, since the time she stopped selling 200k+ copies you can say she's been relying on her fanbase, but now with her sales dropping and dropping can we assume that her fanbase is getting smaller and smaller ?

+ AKB48 can't break ayu records because they're a group (and a huuuuuge one) whereas ayu is a soloist.

Numbers don't lie and ayu's fan base getting smaller is one of my biggest concerns. Last/zutto/walk got a lot of attention so there's hope. Aren't akb48 the primary 48 but there's like 5 other 48 girls groups? Just wondering.

njanjayrp 15th April 2015 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by visionfactory (Post 3132943)
They are. But AKB fans are just too excited about beating ayu in each one of this records...

To be honest AKB48 sounds to me like a bunch of sheep screaming under a Christmas tree. They can get as many awards and break as many records as they want For all I care xD

chocopockymaster 15th April 2015 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by njanjayrp (Post 3133016)
To be honest AKB48 sounds to me like a bunch of sheep screaming under a Christmas tree

LOOOOOOL SCATTER MY ASHES TO A FAR-EAST WIND; I AM DEAD

ayumisrael 15th April 2015 05:45 PM

2nd Day Position: #16

Not that bad.

Delicious n Bold 15th April 2015 05:48 PM

Will it cross 40k?
At least now the gaps between albums are gonna get smaller and smaller. Even if the next album's chart position is N/A it'll still be smaller than other gaps.

Deep snow 15th April 2015 06:28 PM

Never have I imagined living in a world where ayumi hamasaki struggles to sell 50k.

[shrugs]. At least quality-wise I'm very satisfied with this album.

ayumisrael 15th April 2015 06:41 PM

Quality-wise her albums sell 20,000,000 each and are the best selling albums in Japan for all I care, same for her singles and DVDs/Blu-rays :laugh

Andrenekoi 15th April 2015 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by melissalove (Post 3132972)
Numbers don't lie and ayu's fan base getting smaller is one of my biggest concerns. Last/zutto/walk got a lot of attention so there's hope. Aren't akb48 the primary 48 but there's like 5 other 48 girls groups? Just wondering.

She still attracts 300k+ people to watch her live every year, between Arena Tours, CDLs and festival performances, and she is only behind Namie on that department nowadays if I'm not wrong.

Younger generation doesn't care about her recent releases, and people who follows her (and watch her live) are over that age you buy everything an artist released just because it has their name on the cover... So, she isn't having massive hits or selling loads of copies, but she is far from being irrelevant or even at risk of getting there.

I still believe she would benefit a lot sales-wise of stop having yearly releases and tours.

ayumisrael 15th April 2015 08:37 PM

These things don't that matter... It's more for the fans/avex rather than ayu herself (as she is swimming in money anyway and still earn loads of tours/tie-ins/goods sales and other stuff - and also for these decent sales). Of course she uses avex for what she needs though.

"I’m not scared of losing what I had anymore" - WARNING.

She can do whatever she want without fear of losing fans or selling less.

TeddyGrahams 15th April 2015 08:42 PM

^I don't care about declining sales as much. It's been a trend since like 2002. As long as she keeps producing music and is true to herself, I'll always be a fan.

njanjayrp 15th April 2015 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Andrenekoi (Post 3133048)
She still attracts 300k+ people to watch her live every year, between Arena Tours, CDLs and festival performances, and she is only behind Namie on that department nowadays if I'm not wrong.

Younger generation doesn't care about her recent releases, and people who follows her (and watch her live) are over that age you buy everything an artist released just because it has their name on the cover... So, she isn't having massive hits or selling loads of copies, but she is far from being irrelevant or even at risk of getting there.

I still believe she would benefit a lot sales-wise of stop having yearly releases and tours.

People should also take into account that perhaps people simply download Ayu's songs and albums nowdays.

lastminute 15th April 2015 10:23 PM

^That's true. Also, oricon doesn't count international sales anymore so, even if the international copies sold aren't that many, the "official oricon numbers" aren't at all looking at the whole picture.

Uknow! 15th April 2015 11:03 PM

And Oricon doesn't count copies sold on the venue of a concert, no?

Ayumi Hamasaki is a really popular artist in YesAsia every year, and for being J-Pop, she sells at level of Kpop group in that page. Specially her concerts.

Yoake 15th April 2015 11:14 PM

It would be interesting if Avex can give the real number of sales for their artists. They should know what they sent to shop and what remains in their stock!

chocopockymaster 15th April 2015 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Uknow! (Post 3133110)
And Oricon doesn't count copies sold on the venue of a concert, no?

They count a percentage of the copies sold at concert venues--I can't recall if it's 20% of copies sold or if it's that 1 in every 3 copies sold is counted. Can someone clarify?

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Originally Posted by Yoake (Post 3133112)
It would be interesting if Avex can give the real number of sales for their artists. They should know what they sent to shop and what remains in their stock!

I feel like I remember seeing her sales numbers according to avex released in their annual shareholders' reports, but I haven't seen one of those in a long long time.

AYUmyQUEEN 15th April 2015 11:34 PM

The day is fast approaching where people no longer buy physical albums! That's a scary thought to me :( I love owning physical albums; they're some of my favorite possessions! whahah

Andrenekoi 16th April 2015 02:44 AM

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Originally Posted by chocopockymaster (Post 3133116)
They count a percentage of the copies sold at concert venues--I can't recall if it's 20% of copies sold or if it's that 1 in every 3 copies sold is counted. Can someone clarify?



I feel like I remember seeing her sales numbers according to avex released in their annual shareholders' reports, but I haven't seen one of those in a long long time.

1/3 I believe^^

dumbellz 16th April 2015 02:49 AM

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Originally Posted by TeddyGrahams (Post 3133082)
^I don't care about declining sales as much. It's been a trend since like 2002. As long as she keeps producing music and is true to herself, I'll always be a fan.

That's what I feel too but on the other hand, if her sales continue to worsen then she might not be able to release music in the future

adantatu2 16th April 2015 02:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Andrenekoi (Post 3132798)
+-4k sales... Her lowest drop ever, I think.

Thanks. Not bad, it seems.

ayumisrael 16th April 2015 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by dumbellz (Post 3133147)
That's what I feel too but on the other hand, if her sales continue to worsen then she might not be able to release music in the future

She can release music as long as she wants to regardless of sales (as long as there is avex).
Just look at other artists who were really popular and don't sell well nowadays (and they still tour in arenas) like seiko matsuda for example.

btw the achivement ayu got is because she passed matsutoya yuming's record of a solo female having the most top 10 albums (47) and ayu has 48.

TeddyGrahams 16th April 2015 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by dumbellz (Post 3133147)
That's what I feel too but on the other hand, if her sales continue to worsen then she might not be able to release music in the future

Well yeah, but ayu is too deeply embedded in music for that option. Even then, nothing last forever. I hope she continues to make music, even though I don't always love everything she released. Hopefully, this album have some legs. It deserves better sales.

KarenPang 16th April 2015 11:20 AM

3rd day on the 2nd week - #10

http://www.oricon.co.jp/rank/ja/d/2015-04-15/

holy_arrow 16th April 2015 11:32 AM

I wonder how 's about Namie Amuro's sales ?
Don't know why Namie can have the high sales although she and Ayu is all the great Diva !

attractive nausea 16th April 2015 11:32 AM

It's way better than yesterday ♥

KarenPang 17th April 2015 11:20 AM

4th day on the 2nd week - #11

http://www.oricon.co.jp/rank/ja/d/2015-04-16/p/2/

douggn 17th April 2015 11:57 AM

I think the sales just reflect the time we live in. Agreed she doesn't have the biggest fan base she had but also they don't include her digital sales. I think that if it did, her position would be higher as it is a more convenient way for everyday music listener, more so in Japan too. Physical sales are nothing compared to digital sales nowadays, but the music industry still holds onto the whole physical side more. They also don't count overseas purchaces too

Yannetakizawa 17th April 2015 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by douggn (Post 3133545)
I think the sales just reflect the time we live in. Agreed she doesn't have the biggest fan base she had but also they don't include her digital sales. I think that if it did, her position would be higher as it is a more convenient way for everyday music listener, more so in Japan too. Physical sales are nothing compared to digital sales nowadays, but the music industry still holds onto the whole physical side more. They also don't count overseas purchaces too

The sale of any singer can increase from by this logic ... It doesn't change nothing...

Chris85 17th April 2015 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by melissalove (Post 3130664)

@TriStar her concerts venues aren't getting smaller for now, but her tour dates are.

I think she used to sell more tickets so Saitama Super Arena configuration for her shows was bigger, and for the current tour its capacity was reduced to Yoyogi numbers or even less.

visionfactory 17th April 2015 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by TeddyGrahams (Post 3133231)
Well yeah, but ayu is too deeply embedded in music for that option. Even then, nothing last forever. I hope she continues to make music, even though I don't always love everything she released. Hopefully, this album have some legs. It deserves better sales.

Nothing last forever, except Matsuda Seiko's career :laugh she is like the ayu from the 80's still releasing things even if she's not selling that well anymore ;) so don't care about ayu, she will never be in misono's case

melissalove 17th April 2015 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by dumbellz (Post 3133147)
That's what I feel too but on the other hand, if her sales continue to worsen then she might not be able to release music in the future

This. This. This. :yes

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Originally Posted by Chris85 (Post 3133612)
I think she used to sell more tickets so Saitama Super Arena configuration for her shows was bigger, and for the current tour its capacity was reduced to Yoyogi numbers or even less.

I did notice a decrease as well!! :(

Pieces_of_SEVEN 17th April 2015 11:15 PM

It's getting to the point where CD sales do not matter. Ticket sales and things is what is going to count.

Bigtop 18th April 2015 12:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by douggn (Post 3133545)
I think the sales just reflect the time we live in. Agreed she doesn't have the biggest fan base she had but also they don't include her digital sales. I think that if it did, her position would be higher as it is a more convenient way for everyday music listener, more so in Japan too. Physical sales are nothing compared to digital sales nowadays, but the music industry still holds onto the whole physical side more. They also don't count overseas purchaces too

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Originally Posted by Pieces_of_SEVEN (Post 3133711)
It's getting to the point where CD sales do not matter. Ticket sales and things is what is going to count.

Agreed so.

I have to wonder...when will Japan start to make its 'final', 'big' change to digital? I know Johnny's artists won't release music on iTunes, hence those sales numbers, and AKB48, despite they're on iTunes, those handshake tickets that they covet...!

But yeah...eventually CD sales might not matter very much. I mean, there's this recent trend of digital music downloads in FLAC format, which is starting to gain some traction...

Cahz- 18th April 2015 01:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Yannetakizawa (Post 3133559)
The sale of any singer can increase from by this logic ... It doesn't change nothing...

In Ayu's case, it really changes a thing. A One debuted at #3 on the digital chart of Japan, just behind A BEST and Southern All Stars album. miwa debuted at #5 for example. Since the A BEST domination last year, she gained a lot of presence on the digital market.

kinix 18th April 2015 02:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Pieces_of_SEVEN (Post 3133711)
It's getting to the point where CD sales do not matter. Ticket sales and things is what is going to count.

Of cos the money generated from the current sales... it's too little to be a major factor. But IF the sale is still 300-400,000. It's a big deal. Being on the chart is actually a big matter as endorsement comes from current popularity. No brand would want a old, unpopular star when they could get a popular star instead.

Andrenekoi 18th April 2015 03:32 AM

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Originally Posted by kinix (Post 3133741)
Of cos the money generated from the current sales... it's too little to be a major factor. But IF the sale is still 300-400,000. It's a big deal. Being on the chart is actually a big matter as endorsement comes from current popularity. No brand would want a old, unpopular star when they could get a popular star instead.

Unpopular, yeap, you are right, but old no. The star a brand uses for promotion must have appeal with the public the brand is aiming for... Kana Nishino, Kyary and AKB48 doesn't sell for women over 50, but Seiko Matsuda, Akina Nakamori and Matsutoya Yumi do.

orbitalaspect 18th April 2015 08:29 AM

Speaking of the whole Oricon achievement, Seiko didn't manage to beat Ayu on that? She's released over 100 albums of material, and more than half of them didn't chart in the Top 10?

ayumisrael 18th April 2015 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by orbitalaspect (Post 3133779)
Speaking of the whole Oricon achievement, Seiko didn't manage to beat Ayu on that? She's released over 100 albums of material, and more than half of them didn't chart in the Top 10?

Apparentely no, Oricon would no as they are oricon.

A BEST was #1 weekly on recochoku albums charts last week. Wow! It's really timeless there!

Andrenekoi 18th April 2015 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by orbitalaspect (Post 3133779)
Speaking of the whole Oricon achievement, Seiko didn't manage to beat Ayu on that? She's released over 100 albums of material, and more than half of them didn't chart in the Top 10?

Seiko sales sinked HARD during the 2nd decade of her career... She even had a massive hit single that didn't really translate into album sales. Ayu at her worst still is on the same sales level of most soloists

Chris85 18th April 2015 09:41 AM

I wonder why digital sales are so low in Japan. If people stop buying physical copies, aren't they switching to digital downloads? And the piracy policy is strict in Japan which should encourage legal downloads.

Andrenekoi 18th April 2015 10:18 AM

^It seens like recent acts benefit a lot more of digital releases, but idols cause made it unbalanced by making up reasons to convince their hardcore fandom buying several copies of their stuff...

I mean, how much of AKB48 physical sales aren't just from people trying to vote for their favorite girl or meeting them?

BRILLANTE 18th April 2015 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by douggn (Post 3133545)
I think the sales just reflect the time we live in. Agreed she doesn't have the biggest fan base she had but also they don't include her digital sales. I think that if it did, her position would be higher as it is a more convenient way for everyday music listener, more so in Japan too. Physical sales are nothing compared to digital sales nowadays, but the music industry still holds onto the whole physical side more. They also don't count overseas purchaces too

Umm, physical sales are the bulk of the Japanese market, especially when it comes to album sales. Everyday music listeners are inclined to buy singles online (and by singles I mean the single's title track only), but not albums. I mean only one album has been certified digitally by the RIAJ (the Frozen soundtrack which was certified Gold for selling 100k digitally).

If we're talking about singles, the digital market definitely matters, but for albums it's a completely different story.



Quote:

Originally Posted by visionfactory (Post 3133614)
Nothing last forever, except Matsuda Seiko's career :laugh she is like the ayu from the 80's still releasing things even if she's not selling that well anymore ;) so don't care about ayu, she will never be in misono's case

She is the new Seiko.



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Originally Posted by Bigtop (Post 3133728)
Agreed so.

I have to wonder...when will Japan start to make its 'final', 'big' change to digital? I know Johnny's artists won't release music on iTunes, hence those sales numbers, and AKB48, despite they're on iTunes, those handshake tickets that they covet...!

But yeah...eventually CD sales might not matter very much. I mean, there's this recent trend of digital music downloads in FLAC format, which is starting to gain some traction...

Can you even buy FLAC digitally anywhere in Japan but OTOTOY?

I think a lot of people are thinking that the circumstances in the Western market are the same as the Japanese market but this is false.

I don't think that Oricon will include digital anytime soon. I mean if anything, digital has been put on the back burner by the industry these past few years in light of the discontinuation of the RIAJ Digital Track Chart. They said they were going to retool it a few years ago about but they killed it instead. Since then all we've had to go on are charts from different online stores and RIAJ digital certifications.

KarenPang 18th April 2015 11:26 AM

5th day on the 2nd week - #10

http://www.oricon.co.jp/rank/ja/d/2015-04-17/

TeamAyu2004 18th April 2015 02:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris85 (Post 3133784)
I wonder why digital sales are so low in Japan. If people stop buying physical copies, aren't they switching to digital downloads? And the piracy policy is strict in Japan which should encourage legal downloads.

piracy is still pretty high in japan due to the strictness is to uploading, not downloading. You hear more stories about people who have uploaded things then the masses of people who have downloaded them.

attractive nausea 18th April 2015 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by KarenPang (Post 3133793)
5th day on the 2nd week - #10

http://www.oricon.co.jp/rank/ja/d/2015-04-17/

Not so bad

Party_King 18th April 2015 07:41 PM

United World Chart - 1st week - #19

http://www.mediatraffic.de/albums.htm

(Colours was #17)

KarenPang 19th April 2015 11:20 AM

6th day on the 2nd week - #11

http://www.oricon.co.jp/rank/ja/d/2015-04-18/p/2/

YukiUsagi 19th April 2015 11:25 AM

out of top 10 this week :headache:headache:headache

truehappiness 19th April 2015 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by melissalove (Post 3130664)
@TriStar her concerts venues aren't getting smaller for now, but her tour dates are.

Her tour dates actually increased for a while with some of the longest tours she's ever done up until like A BEST LIVE or around there.

visionfactory 19th April 2015 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris85 (Post 3133784)
I wonder why digital sales are so low in Japan. If people stop buying physical copies, aren't they switching to digital downloads? And the piracy policy is strict in Japan which should encourage legal downloads.

You have to take in count that the rental CD shops are a big deal in Japan, you can always rip the CD without paying the full price

Chris85 19th April 2015 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by visionfactory (Post 3134098)
You have to take in count that the rental CD shops are a big deal in Japan, you can always rip the CD without paying the full price

I see, I didn't know about it, thank you for telling.

KarenPang 20th April 2015 11:20 AM

7th day on the 2nd week - #12

http://www.oricon.co.jp/rank/ja/d/2015-04-19/p/2/

chronos 20th April 2015 01:58 PM

I can tell I have grown up because I used to be obsess about Oricon numbers 5-10 years ago. Now it really doesn't matter to me. I love A ONE and can listen to it all day. It was cool when Ayu was on top, but a #1 album doesn't mean anything about the quality! I will always support Ayu regardless of how much she sells! :)

Delicious n Bold 21st April 2015 04:08 PM

She's #14 today.

http://www.oricon.co.jp/rank/ja/d/2015-04-20/p/2/

brener 21st April 2015 04:15 PM

2nd Week
Position: #12
Sales: 5,845
Total sales: 40,537

ayumisrael 21st April 2015 05:20 PM

3rd Week
1st Day: Position: #14

Thanks brener, not so bad!

brener 21st April 2015 05:29 PM

Yeah, numbers are still good ;)

attractive nausea 21st April 2015 06:48 PM

I don't get why she's #12 because to me she's been switching between #10 and #11 the whole week.

I hope she can reach 50 000 :c


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