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maxikot 19th September 2020 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris85 (Post 3328174)
I love how overly dramatic as usual they're in description, also very modest calling it a masterpiece already:D
Anyway, I hope the set-list will pleasantly surprise.

There is no modesty in pop haha. First things that came to my mind are self-proclaimed queen of live Kuu and Queen of Hip-hop Namie xD Who knows, maybe it's gonna be a masterpiece ;)

Mikytaryan 19th September 2020 02:58 PM

I bought my ticket, really looking forward to this live :love

Ever since the pandemic started, I found myself watching many of her past lives. It kinda brings comfort in these crazy times, lol.

I actually don't see a world where she doesn't sing on stage, so hopefully we'll continue to see lives from her after TROUBLE ends :)

Chris85 19th September 2020 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by DavidChaiLatte (Post 3328144)
Thank goodness it's not a full-fledged tour... this year's been a rare opportunity for Ayu to finally pipe the fk down and rest her poor vocal cords and it really shows during the last few online shows, with each show being better than the one prior.

I hope she takes 2021 easy as well and comes back in 2022 with fully rested vocal cords.

I came across an article about voice problems by accident today. There's an interesting statement there. It's in French, so here's a machine but easy to understand translation:"Don't believe people who say you'll solve your voice problem by resting your voice. Vocal problems are caused by overuse and abuse of the vocal cords. You can rest, but if you don't learn how to use them correctly, the problem will always come back!"
https://www.caut.ca/docs/default-sou...de-la-voix.pdf

Deep snow 19th September 2020 04:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris85 (Post 3328189)
I came across an article about voice problems by accident today. There's an interesting statement there. It's in French, so here's a machine but easy to understand translation:"Don't believe people who say you'll solve your voice problem by resting your voice. Vocal problems are caused by overuse and abuse of the vocal cords. You can rest, but if you don't learn how to use them correctly, the problem will always come back!"
https://www.caut.ca/docs/default-sou...de-la-voix.pdf

I hope her changed singing technique we've been seeing since POWER of A^3 (softer/more airy and less shouty) is a sign of her "[learning] how to use [her vocal chords] correctly"

truehappiness 19th September 2020 04:38 PM

POWER of A^3's problems I think were the result of too much touring before those lives. I think more than anything it was just overuse that made her super raspy at that time.

mimika 20th September 2020 07:14 AM

TA just sent out an email to all members asking people to send 1 picture of their trouble tour memories in, they will use those pictures as curtain call!! woosh!

Ad Eternam 20th September 2020 10:30 AM

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That's why if I said I wasn't sad that my final appearance on stage will be a live stream, that would honestly be a lie.
I, at least wanted to meet with everyone for the last time.
Is it just me or does it sound like a retirement announcement?!?!

Chris85 20th September 2020 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Ad Eternam (Post 3328221)
Is it just me or does it sound like a retirement announcement?!?!

Where is this quote from?

maxikot 20th September 2020 11:39 AM

A day without reading the word "retirement" is a wasted one :D It's about the last time to appear in front of everybody during this long tour. The quote comes from TA mail. Here's it's in full:
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"ayumi hamasaki TROUBLE TOUR 2020 A~サイゴノトラブル~ FINAL" announced recently.

The performances this time around will be streamed on mu-mo LIVE from 19:00 on October 2nd (Fri), but we have received a message from ayu for all of the TeamAyu members.

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"Let's create サイゴノトラブル together"


サイゴノトラブル FINAL has been announced at last.
I have come this far with a truly small wish, "Maybe by some chance..."

But I guess we won't be able to meet in person yet. That's right, isn't it? It's definitely not safe yet. Of course, I understand and I am convinced about this.

That's why if I said I wasn't sad that my final appearance on stage will be a live stream, that would honestly be a lie.
I, at least wanted to meet with everyone for the last time. .

Thinking about many things like that, although the situation is that we can't actually meet in person at the venue, I thought that there might be a way that we could somehow close the curtain together as we have done so up to now.

and I have a request for everyone in TA about this. Everyone, can you send your photo memories of the TROUBL Tour

here's a link that I removed as it's for TA only (-maxikot)

If everyone can send one picture with your memories, that would be great!

The submission period is 3 days from today, Sunday, until the last day of the long weekend, Tuesday!!! I want to create a performance that everyone themselves can feel as the last piece on stage, just as we have so far up to now, so I am really really looking forward to seeing everyone's photos.

I think I might start crying just imagining everyone's photos..


ayu
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As such, we are asking for your photos of your memories of the TROUBL Tour as we get closer to the "ayumi hamasaki TROUBLE TOUR 2020 A~サイゴノトラブル~ FINAL"!

koumori 20th September 2020 11:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ad Eternam (Post 3328221)
Is it just me or does it sound like a retirement announcement?!?!

This would be announced a lot more formally than like this. I think this is referring to the last stage of the TROUBLE era. :)

Thank you Maxikot for posting the full EN version.

Chris85 20th September 2020 12:24 PM

Thank you, maxikot, for clearing this up.

ExodusUK 20th September 2020 01:20 PM

She's referring to the last stage of TROUBLE as they had ambitious plans for it including an arena tour. Thank god she's finally confirmed the TROUBLE era is over.

Earth_maiden 20th September 2020 07:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by maxikot (Post 3328224)

----------------------------------------
"Let's create サイゴノトラブル together"


サイゴノトラブル FINAL has been announced at last.
I have come this far with a truly small wish, "Maybe by some chance..."

But I guess we won't be able to meet in person yet. That's right, isn't it? It's definitely not safe yet. Of course, I understand and I am convinced about this.

That's why if I said I wasn't sad that my final appearance on stage will be a live stream, that would honestly be a lie.
I, at least wanted to meet with everyone for the last time. .

Thinking about many things like that, although the situation is that we can't actually meet in person at the venue, I thought that there might be a way that we could somehow close the curtain together as we have done so up to now.

and I have a request for everyone in TA about this. Everyone, can you send your photo memories of the TROUBL Tour

here's a link that I removed as it's for TA only (-maxikot)

If everyone can send one picture with your memories, that would be great!

The submission period is 3 days from today, Sunday, until the last day of the long weekend, Tuesday!!! I want to create a performance that everyone themselves can feel as the last piece on stage, just as we have so far up to now, so I am really really looking forward to seeing everyone's photos.

I think I might start crying just imagining everyone's photos..


ayu
----------------------------------------

As such, we are asking for your photos of your memories of the TROUBL Tour as we get closer to the "ayumi hamasaki TROUBLE TOUR 2020 A~サイゴノトラブル~ FINAL"!

I sent in one of my photos from last January in Ibaraki, I hope it gets picked. :love

Aderianu 20th September 2020 08:31 PM

I believe non-asian looking fans have good chances to be picked

Earth_maiden 20th September 2020 09:08 PM

^That's what I'm hoping, with my blonde hair and gaijin-ness I should stand out a little. :laugh

ExodusUK 20th September 2020 11:09 PM

But I guess we won't be able to meet in person yet. That's right, isn't it? It's definitely not safe yet.

Koda didn't get this memo..

Katsuyuki012 21st September 2020 12:30 AM

^:laugh

koumori 21st September 2020 10:05 AM

I don't feel Koda was given a choice by Avex. It's her 20th anniversary year and they're desperate to keep other concerts going too, like AAA's dome tour. I feel they are using her arena dates to prove that it's "safe" with measures. So let's not pretend Koda made this decision all by herself. :no

I also think Ayu wouldn't like only doing 30%/50% attendance too.

kendelle 22nd September 2020 01:19 PM

I attended two dates so I did a collage of some pictures from both. Hoping I get picked as well!

When we attended the concerts, the cameras actually seemed to deliberately avoid the Gaijin Row :roflmao like the camera would be panning over the crowd during the MC part and then awkwardly jump up so only the tops of our hair were shown, or zooming in on angles that cut us out :rolleyes

Earth_maiden 22nd September 2020 08:05 PM

^I'm only a yellow blob in the DVD on the first concert I attended, the other 3 concerts didn't even have cameras. :laugh I think its only recently that they've been more inclusive with showing foreigners?

rainbow_smile 23rd September 2020 07:58 PM

I could see myself quite well on the AT 2015 CDM DVD, which iirc was one of the first times they let foreigners buy tickets? xD

YUKARI 24th September 2020 06:56 PM

lol I hope they won't anymore use 'TROUBLE' as a title

Earth_maiden 24th September 2020 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by rainbow_smile (Post 3328405)
I could see myself quite well on the AT 2015 CDM DVD, which iirc was one of the first times they let foreigners buy tickets? xD

Quite possibly. I'm on the CDL12-13 DVD but yeah, just as a yellow blob and you won't see me unless you know where to look haha. No cameras on my leg of the Trouble tour but at least I got to shake Midoring and Kazu's hands as they walked up the aisle during the encore. :love

Sim' 24th September 2020 10:47 PM

I got a whole 4 secondes zoom on me on the PoA3 DVD (longer & better focus than the TV version, luckyyyyy so grateful ^^)

I agree we tend to see gaijins more & more compared to previous tours...
(I guess global team-ayu may have something to do with it, offering better seats for foreigners)

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Originally Posted by YUKARI (Post 3328454)
lol I hope they won't anymore use 'TROUBLE' as a title

Preach! This TROUBLE thing lasted way too long...

truehappiness 25th September 2020 04:20 AM

Length I think was about the same as Just the beginning but it did feel a bit longer, lol.

SKYia 25th September 2020 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by rainbow_smile (Post 3328405)
I could see myself quite well on the AT 2015 CDM DVD, which iirc was one of the first times they let foreigners buy tickets? xD

I got my tickets from reseller for CDL 14-15 so I wasn't in gaijin row, I was in row 40, close to the side camera man, he was pointing the camera in my face almost all the time and yet after rewatching the DVD many times I only found myself in one single frame.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-KwXeyyrIQ9...c/s1600/me.jpg

(you can even see the camera man pointing camera in my direction xD)

mimika 26th September 2020 11:12 PM

has anyone purchased the ticket for online trouble tour successfully with overseas credit card?

truehappiness 26th September 2020 11:15 PM

A bunch of fans have, I think. We might be talking about the concert too in Discord on the night/day of!

koumori 27th September 2020 12:55 AM

I bought my ticket successfully using overseas details. Can't wait for it :heart

DonkeyKongRemix 28th September 2020 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by koumori (Post 3328557)
I bought my ticket successfully using overseas details. Can't wait for it :heart

Aww, I'm super jealous!! ^_^ have you gone to any of her shows before?

koumori 28th September 2020 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by nalini-dahlia (Post 3328603)
Aww, I'm super jealous!! ^_^ have you gone to any of her shows before?

Not in real life! I managed to watch Natsu no Trouble and a-nation live this year but I've never been able to afford to fly to Japan. This is really exciting :tipsy I hope someone will be able to rip it for everyone else soon after the concert!

maxikot 28th September 2020 11:11 PM

I've bought my ticket today. We will meet at the concert then :)

Aderianu 29th September 2020 11:51 AM

Want to see it ( I spent do much money on the medicines lately that simply can't afford that ticket now

Deep snow 29th September 2020 01:21 PM

her latest Stories seem to suggest a merch collaboration with the comedians(?) who worked with her for that a-nation intro?

I really liked how surreal that clip is, but the merch design (if this was in fact what the Stories were about) seems, as usual, so lazy.

~angel*ayumi~ 29th September 2020 05:39 PM

I am working that day, so no stream for me, but I hope someone will record it as usal^^

DonkeyKongRemix 29th September 2020 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by koumori (Post 3328606)


Not in real life! I managed to watch Natsu no Trouble and a-nation live this year but I've never been able to afford to fly to Japan. This is really exciting :tipsy I hope someone will be able to rip it for everyone else soon after the concert!

I'll just hide in your suitcase, no biggie right? :roflmao

Anna.L 29th September 2020 10:58 PM

i'm gonna be on work that day
i really hope someone record it

FoxyPinkGirl 30th September 2020 06:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Deep snow (Post 3328651)
her latest Stories seem to suggest a merch collaboration with the comedians(?) who worked with her for that a-nation intro?

I really liked how surreal that clip is, but the merch design (if this was in fact what the Stories were about) seems, as usual, so lazy.

Yeah TA just sent out an email about it along with the article on her website. Frankly I absolutely hated that video intro! The goods are bizarre. Especially the fingers logo keychain...it’s creepy.
https://avex.jp/ayu/goods/detail.php?id=1001746

juanes6 30th September 2020 06:32 AM

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Originally Posted by FoxyPinkGirl (Post 3328685)
Yeah TA just sent out an email about it along with the article on her website. Frankly I absolutely hated that video intro! The goods are bizarre. Especially the fingers logo keychain...it’s creepy.
https://avex.jp/ayu/goods/detail.php?id=1001746

I really liked the key chain, the mug and the t-shirt... Do I need a special address site like Tenso in order to buy something from mu-mo??, it's the first time I like the some merchandise in a long, long time (even if they look lazy...) XD

*I'm looking in the forum if there's a tutorial to buy from mu-mo :yes

kendelle 30th September 2020 07:28 AM

Thanks to Ayu I discovered a new phobia lol

Evolution7/4 30th September 2020 08:17 AM

I am ALL for this LOL. Something new and different. I mean do we really need another round of army or leopord print goods?

~angel*ayumi~ 30th September 2020 08:54 AM

The goods are super creepy xD

Earth_maiden 30th September 2020 09:35 AM

There's a few comments on the Facebook page that they're terrible goods and "not cute" lol.

https://www.facebook.com/ayu.officia...85947321423352

I wouldn't buy them. :no

pommy48 30th September 2020 09:48 AM

Lol it looks like people are only liking the negative comments

I think it's an unique idea. Her previous goods all looked the same. That hoodie would be perfect for Halloween. I think the mug is the cutest and more acceptable design

Kanariyatachi 30th September 2020 10:18 AM

Hahaha people on Facebook are so bothered.
Ok I might be too. I like it in a way that she's doing the most random things nowadays and apparently can afford not to care, but I wouldn't let those items near my house. Love them, though. :D

"買い求める価値なし!!見にくいモノは嫌いです!!!"
:luv2

Toniayu123 30th September 2020 10:25 AM

I love the goods. But I HATE oversized clothing. Damn I would have loved to buy that shirt

maxikot 30th September 2020 10:50 AM

They are perfect for Halloween, people should be happy :D I love them as I am always up for weird, creepy stuff ^^

Aderianu 30th September 2020 12:18 PM

Hate them. I'm glad they are so ugly because I don't want to have any and will not spend money

Mikytaryan 30th September 2020 12:43 PM

Hah, as always, so many contrasting opinions! :))

I really like them, they are so creepy and perfect for autumn :grin

chocopockymaster 30th September 2020 01:44 PM

They’re not my cup of tea but my god it’s just good to see that she’s capable of doing something different

kendelle 30th September 2020 02:29 PM

After the initial thoughts I don't mind the mug or the design with Ayu's face. It's maybe even a bit cute? The hollowed out eyes aren't too bad, it's like some MS Paint ~ a e s t h e t i c ~ edit

I just wouldn't have it in my home hahaha

...but the A mark made out of fingers just creeps me out. 100% blerrrgh, I don't even want to look at them and I can't even begin to understand why. I dunno how cartoon fingers are so off-putting!

Anyway I did buy the ticket for the stream, I hope those goods aren't on display in the MC session lmfaooooo

Earth_maiden 30th September 2020 03:34 PM

Do we have instructions for how to buy a ticket? I'm feeling a bit brain dead at the moment. I try and click the "test" screen and nothing happens even though I'm using Google Chrome....

maxikot 30th September 2020 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Earth_maiden (Post 3328735)
Do we have instructions for how to buy a ticket? I'm feeling a bit brain dead at the moment. I try and click the "test" screen and nothing happens even though I'm using Google Chrome....

If I am correct under the dates and price there should be a picture with a Trouble tour logo which should take you to another page with the purchase button. It's here so try it out
https://live-on.mu-mo.net/ayu/serial?campaignId=165

Kacku 30th September 2020 05:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Earth_maiden (Post 3328735)
Do we have instructions for how to buy a ticket? I'm feeling a bit brain dead at the moment. I try and click the "test" screen and nothing happens even though I'm using Google Chrome....

AyuDoingThings on Twitter made a tutorial for this: https://twitter.com/AyuDoingThings/s...46477707055104

Earth_maiden 30th September 2020 06:20 PM

^Thank you guys, I figured it out with your help. :love I also had adblocker on so that's why I couldn't see the "test" screen. I was so confused.

BOUGHT MY TICKET!! :luv2

Chibi-Chan 30th September 2020 09:57 PM

I also just bought my ticket and am really excited!

lastminute 30th September 2020 10:54 PM

Same here! So excited!

DonkeyKongRemix 1st October 2020 02:36 AM

Those goods hurt to look at :(((

Chris85 1st October 2020 09:11 AM

Be careful what you wish for when you're asking for new merch ideas.

freedreamer 1st October 2020 11:24 AM

i hope the concert will be recorded T.T Im not gonna be available to watch at that hour

Chris85 1st October 2020 01:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by freedreamer (Post 3328775)
i hope the concert will be recorded T.T Im not gonna be available to watch at that hour

You don't have to. It will be available as VOD until 10.09.2020.

truehappiness 1st October 2020 07:57 PM

Reminder that we will be livechatting when the concert happens tonight on Discord! It's gonna be fun!!!!

AyuCanada 1st October 2020 08:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris85 (Post 3328784)
You don't have to. It will be available as VOD until 10.09.2020.

What is a VOD?

kaled kalil 1st October 2020 08:21 PM

Video on demand, it means that it will be available to watch later again until 10.09.2020.

If anyone care, mu-mo live utilizes HLS for the video stream, so you can capture the video with an hls recorder.

truehappiness 2nd October 2020 09:35 AM

You have to buy the ticket though beforehand to get the VOD access at least.

Chris85 2nd October 2020 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by truehappiness (Post 3328869)
You have to buy the ticket though beforehand to get the VOD access at least.

No, you don't.
視聴チケット販売期間:2020/10/9(金)21:30まで

truehappiness 2nd October 2020 11:12 AM

"Doors open" soon and we'll be getting in to wait for the show!

Deep snow 2nd October 2020 11:18 AM

have fun everyone who's watching! I hope a download link will be available soon for us impoverished plebs here :yes

truehappiness 2nd October 2020 11:32 AM

Most likely! If not sooner then maybe a day or two from now, lol.

rasec.vadenz 3rd October 2020 06:09 PM

But the concert is already on Bilibilli.
And by the way, it's one of her best performings. The setlist was amazing, still can't beat the one from CDL 09-10 Future Classics.
It's just me, but i didn't enjoy the songs from Encore, but the tohers were great!
Uhm, also I didn't miss Timmy, hope he won't write for Ayu anymore, otherwise we will have Inspire pt. 3 as Survivor was pt. 2.

Great concert anyway! :love

thinkingoutloud89 12th October 2020 12:55 PM

^I think Timmy did some really good writing for Ayu tho, so better lower your voice.


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