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JinHamasaki 30th December 2004 12:24 AM

It's very hard to decide if she lip syncs on certain songs. There is equipment that can actually correct the pitch of someone's voice in a live setting (Hm...wonder what the Mixer guy exactly does). Then there are some songs Ayu can just nail.

I agree yvette, just standing there and lip syncing.....hmm that would majorly suck as a concert lol.

walking proud 30th December 2004 12:31 AM

By "brutal" i meant plain out bashing her. I can understand opinions are different but there is no need to bash her ^^;

kristen 30th December 2004 12:33 AM

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Originally Posted by y2687
bashing I guess o_o

I don't mind is artists lip synch once in a while, if they're jumping up and down and whatever, but what is just.. :shakehead .. is that there are others who just stand there, they don't even have to move around, and they lip synch.

I'm not gonna hate on Ayu, but I don't really think she has the voice of an "angel." A lot of people don't even think she sounds so great even on her CDs. So I wouldn't really see the need for her to lip synch? Unless she's movign around, well yeah. But a lot of her performances are just her standing, waving her arms. o_o

Totally agree!

I remember talking to someone at school about Ashlee's episode at SNL, and the girl was like: i dont see why so many people are hating on her, she said she was having a bad day.

In that situation, i would totally understand it if an artist lip synched. Or if they were having an off day vocally, or if they had a cold. Or.. if they did a lot of dancing ^^;

I just dont like ayu's performances.

elepop 30th December 2004 01:46 AM

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Originally Posted by bates
She's up there dancing and giving it her best, how could she NOT lip synch once and awhile?

Yup, i agree on that. Britney Spears lip synch all the time and i don't mind because she's always dancing like crazy. And it's not like Ayu-type of dance routine. It's not para-para. It's actually real dancing.

I don't mind artist lip synching as long as the have a proper reason. Like Hilary Duff? Sorry girl, but you don't even dance and your ALWAYS on a great and happy mood. Yet you lip synch? :mischief

Anyway, i'm glad Ayu lip synchs rarely. Once at each concert i believe.

elepop 30th December 2004 01:47 AM

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Originally Posted by kristen
I just dont like ayu's performances.

You don't? Why that?

Me, i only dislike (not "hate") her Encores. WHY ALWAYS THE SAME SONGS?

kristen 30th December 2004 01:51 AM

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Originally Posted by asongforXX
You don't? Why that?

Me, i only dislike (not "hate") her Encores. WHY ALWAYS THE SAME SONGS?

^^; i'm just never satisfied with them.

ImpactBreaker 30th December 2004 02:14 AM

Britney came to Brazil to perform at Rock 'n Rio once and she lip synched everything...I think the people almost killed her on stage, because honestly, a huge event like Rock'n Rio and she does something like that when all other stars were performing live? People booed at her performance. And honestly they were right, they didn't pay for a ticket to listen to her CD being played. It doesn't matter if she dances, one can train to perform a good dance anda good live singing, it doesn't have to be perfect and be the exact same hard coreography from the clips, she could adapt both and deliver something at least honorable. Lip Synching on a TV show however is acceptable in my opinion since it's not like it is a big concert where people had to pay for the tickets or something but doing this in a real concert (nd specially doing 100% of it lip synching) is a little too much.

Brittany 30th December 2004 02:50 AM

Britney Spears is lazy. Plain and simple :yes

elepop 30th December 2004 03:11 AM

To be honest, i prefer hearing her lip synch the whole time than listening to her actually singing. Or should i say breathing. You just can't dance like this and sing good in the same time.

Surreal 30th December 2004 04:22 AM

The fake tears part - if you doubt Ayu so much, why do you even bother listening to her lyrics. Unless you are just listening to the melody.

LX Ayu 30th December 2004 04:48 AM

Back from work and I read all the posts that passed by here

I don't hate Hamasaki for lip syncing, I just think it's more realistic that she does lip sync than saying she rarely does or never does. I just don't understand how peopel can just say "she rarely lip syncs" when (now that I've been proven wrong) she performs tons of the same concerts all over and people (mainly members in this forum) base what they see from 1 recording out of all the concerts she did.

And on top of all those concerts since they rae probably all the same, does she cry everytime she sings Who...? Same tears and say joy all at the same time? Maybe that's why there's only 1 recording that is sold to the public. You see she and her dancers do the same exact routine every concert. Tears and all I bet. There was once an old rock group that performed in LA and a friend of mine got a recording of the group and watched it before the group came to his city in Florida. At one point near the middle, the lead singer tripped over his mic wire and messed up his lyrics. Looked completely real, then at the live performance in Florida, same spot at the same time in the music he trips on the chord and the same scenario occurs. Does he manage to 'accidently' do this each concert? Just the same way as Hamasaki can shed her tears? I think SOMETIMES she cries for real but that's a rare case. Like when she's thanking her audience and so on, but not during songs.

Anywho, I'm sure if she doesn;t anything that can be considered "cute" people in this forum will jump on it and be like "WOW SHE SO PERFECT! ^^" or whenever she has dejideji or is in a magazine every other comment "cute" "kawaii desu ^.^" "she so pretty" Bleh... Hamasaki is so overrated most of the times. I just see her as another pop singer trying to make it big, succeeded, and is now falling downhill rapidly.

I'm sure when she sings HONEY live it'll be enhanced if not lip sync'd. The reason to that is because she can't produce nasal singing without enhancements unless she rolled around in a flower bed and got her nose stuffy, in which case we should see some snot flying.

As for you Surreal, I don't read her lyrcs, I just listen to the song and if it sounds good then I like it. I don't understand hardly any Japanese so I could careless if she was singing about killing Americans or something, if anything it would be funny. So yes I just listen to the melody of her songs just the same as I do with all the other Japanese singers I listen to. Maaya Sakamoto's song Tune the Rainbow, I liked that song a lot before I read the lyrics and come to find out the lyrics were just as powerful as listening to the song. Doesn't change the song to me though. It still holds same value as before I read the lyrics because I don't remember it all and don't know what line is what when she sings it, it just sounds good. Maybe that's why I like techno/trance so much because it doesn't matter what it consists of, as long as it sounds good.

kotora 30th December 2004 05:01 AM

I am sure She DID lip-synch, but long time ago(around 2000-2001).

Brittany 30th December 2004 06:39 AM

Yup, true. But does Ayu bounce around a lot during her concerts in Japan? I love how Japanese artists are so hard working to give their fans a good show :)

Her tears..? I feel they are real. Come on, it's hard to force tears and you look stupid when you force tears (I have before, someone wanted me to seriously cry on command) .. but there are moments when Ayu gets emotional when she sings a certain song and I don't expect her to cry everytime, when she does, it inflicts a lot of emotions in my heart

isaac hiew 30th December 2004 07:07 AM

I agree that singers shouldn't lip-sync. If they felt that's too tiring for them, they might as well cancel that performance and come back another day, recharged.

We paid with our own long-saved money, often in hundreds of dollars and you expect me to watch fake shows? I wouldn't do that!

PROUD TO BE AN AYUMI FAN! YOU SHOULD TOO!

MTRLevolution 30th December 2004 07:34 AM

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Originally Posted by PickleCookies
Life? Huh? That word is not part of my vocabulary.

:laugh lol, i feel ya.

Ayusdream 30th December 2004 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Phantoma
You gotta admit the Memorial Address Perf. at Arena Tour was extremely exaggerated... I think its a plus when artists cry at their concerts, but 75% of the time I think Ayu is faking it. She should really try to be more natural with her performances... If the song doesn't choke you up as it should, then you should focus on singing the song, and not shedding tears.


ayu easily cries, i believe all her tears are real!!! she's just an artist, not a actress, if she's that good in producing tears, she could be a good actress already, lol

Ibitsu Kokoro 30th December 2004 08:08 AM

Ayu doesn't lip sync. How can you tell? All her bad performances and mistakes.

Ayusdream 30th December 2004 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by bates
Yes back on topic.

I think that some of you are being way too brutal on Ayu. She's up there dancing and giving it her best, how could she NOT lip synch once and awhile? If you take the time to compare it to the CD track then you will see that she rarely lip synchs. Unless you mean to tell me that she records the track before hand and lip synchs to that? I don't see why she would do that, it seems a lot of work. And for her crying, it sounds like she is and I think that from her lyrics changing so often that she has the right to cry and then be happy. If you're going to sing a sad song, then you can cry. But I don't understand why she cries to Who... all the time, because she sings it at almost EVERY concert.

And yes a lot of American artists DO lip synch but not all of them.

who... is usually an ending in a concert, of course she cries at the end of the concert, i believe no one wants the concert to stop when u r in one

Ayusdream 30th December 2004 08:24 AM

there are no such law in japan that prohibits artist to lip-synch, but then there's the show "music station" (probably most of u guys know wut show it is) is famous for that a show that doesnt allow artist to lip-synch, so artists who performed there are true singing, no doubt on that

Qt Mashi 30th December 2004 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by FancySN
This argument is so interesting to watch. Picklecookies, must say you have the sharpest best comebacks I have ever seen. Where did you learn it?

i like asongforXX comebacks :yes

Qt Mashi 30th December 2004 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by LX Ayu
This is almost as pointless as saying her tears are real all the time during her concerts. Memorial Address is a perfect example of that. Fake tears? Of course. Tear glands tell all 90% of the time, her glands weren't swollen then when the music picks up she's suddenly super happy again?

Ayu's tears are real!
LX Ayu ure the type of guy who doesnt understand women :shakehead some girls get emotional easily when they sing, some guys just don't understand women :shakehead i dispise that :(

ohk dont think im weird now.... :cool

walking proud 30th December 2004 09:54 AM

"I don't hate Hamasaki for lip syncing, I just think it's more realistic that she does lip sync than saying she rarely does or never does. I just don't understand how peopel can just say "she rarely lip syncs" when (now that I've been proven wrong) she performs tons of the same concerts all over and people (mainly members in this forum) base what they see from 1 recording out of all the concerts she did."

What recording are you speaking of? I don't think we are basing it on ONE recording, that would be unfair.

"And on top of all those concerts since they rae probably all the same, does she cry everytime she sings Who...? Same tears and say joy all at the same time? Maybe that's why there's only 1 recording that is sold to the public. You see she and her dancers do the same exact routine every concert. Tears and all I bet. There was once an old rock group that performed in LA and a friend of mine got a recording of the group and watched it before the group came to his city in Florida. At one point near the middle, the lead singer tripped over his mic wire and messed up his lyrics. Looked completely real, then at the live performance in Florida, same spot at the same time in the music he trips on the chord and the same scenario occurs. Does he manage to 'accidently' do this each concert? Just the same way as Hamasaki can shed her tears? I think SOMETIMES she cries for real but that's a rare case. Like when she's thanking her audience and so on, but not during songs."

She cries a lot when she sings "Who...". It's an emotional song, put that in with having to end a concert with the audience that kind of grew on you in the past 2 hours. And on "Who.." she IS thanking the audience, and naming off everyone who helped her. And that story was totally unnessesary.

"Anywho, I'm sure if she doesn;t anything that can be considered "cute" people in this forum will jump on it and be like "WOW SHE SO PERFECT! ^^" or whenever she has dejideji or is in a magazine every other comment "cute" "kawaii desu ^.^" "she so pretty" Bleh... Hamasaki is so overrated most of the times. I just see her as another pop singer trying to make it big, succeeded, and is now falling downhill rapidly."

She HAS made it big, hasn't she? And stop putting the "kawaii" stereotype on all of us. We're not all stupid, and we don't all call her "perfect" and "kawaii". That's narrowminded of you to make a stereotype like that.

"I'm sure when she sings HONEY live it'll be enhanced if not lip sync'd. The reason to that is because she can't produce nasal singing without enhancements unless she rolled around in a flower bed and got her nose stuffy, in which case we should see some snot flying."

What?

"As for you Surreal, I don't read her lyrcs, I just listen to the song and if it sounds good then I like it. I don't understand hardly any Japanese so I could careless if she was singing about killing Americans or something, if anything it would be funny. So yes I just listen to the melody of her songs just the same as I do with all the other Japanese singers I listen to. Maaya Sakamoto's song Tune the Rainbow, I liked that song a lot before I read the lyrics and come to find out the lyrics were just as powerful as listening to the song. Doesn't change the song to me though. It still holds same value as before I read the lyrics because I don't remember it all and don't know what line is what when she sings it, it just sounds good. Maybe that's why I like techno/trance so much because it doesn't matter what it consists of, as long as it sounds good."

Same with me when it comes to just listening to the melody, I only know a few Japanese words and I still find the songs very powerful the way the singers sing it. For instance "forgiveness" and "Who.." are very emotional songs, you can tell by the way she sings them at concerts and I like them more when they are performed live.

[Just to clarify.. everything in quotes was QUOTED from LX Ayu and I was just replying to it ^^;]

LX Ayu 30th December 2004 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by bates
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What recording are you speaking of? I don't think we are basing it on ONE recording, that would be unfair.


She cries a lot when she sings "Who...". It's an emotional song, put that in with having to end a concert with the audience that kind of grew on you in the past 2 hours. And on "Who.." she IS thanking the audience, and naming off everyone who helped her. And that story was totally unnessesary.


She HAS made it big, hasn't she? And stop putting the "kawaii" stereotype on all of us. We're not all stupid, and we don't all call her "perfect" and "kawaii". That's narrowminded of you to make a stereotype like that.


What?


[Just to clarify.. everything in quotes was QUOTED from LX Ayu and I was just replying to it ^^;]


k if I met someone for 2 hours or infact thousands of people in 2 hours of standing on stage, they aren't going to get to me even if they groveled at my feet. It's nearly impossible to feel emotional enough to cry for a person from just meeting them for 2 hours even if they told you a sad life and got to you somehow. For all you know they could be lying and manipulating you. Now multiply that by the thousands in a crowd.

Anout the enhanced vocals, there will be computer eletronics to enhance her voice to sound so nasal and dumb.

Yeah she's made it big so what? So has DAI, Hikki, Sakamoto, Even Nobuo Uematsu (for those who know of him) but you don't see them mentioned barely any. DAI has some very sad songs, ever see her cry in concert for the same song over and over?

Ayumi's famous cry songs - Memorial Address, Who..., Teddy Bear, I think Voyage, I can't remember at the sec... just woke and stuff...

I do believe most the peopel here are basing their obversations on 1 recording of each concert because for those who are video collectors would know there is usually only 1 recroding per major concert and when viewers(downloaders) and buyers watch it, is it not just one recording out of all the rest? You're telling me you've seen all of the Arena Tours of each year performed? k then prove to me you're not basing what you see by 1 recording. As for me, I've seen 2 concerts different showings in locations (non Hamasaki) of NIN from recording and live. They are all the same because if the artist switches it up too much, the band and the artist would get confused as to what performance is what and thus will fault.

It's probably almost definate that her tears are on que. Watch all the Who... songs and mark where her tears start to come. Same intervals. They almost even last the same amount of time. She just suddenly cries out like that for the same time because her emotions just happen to last that 2mins?

And no, I won't stop stereotyping because a lot of people are pure bias. Anything she comes out with is good or if it sucks, "it's okay, we all mess up sometime" compared to other artists who get bashed for that then when the sam thing happens to their idol it suddenly becomes okay. so KE KE KE T.T cry for me. I can go thru the forum and pull up probably well over 500 posts of people saying "kawaii ^^" or she's so cute" or "shes perfect @.@" want me to send them all to you via priv message?

Someone else mentioned about the lip syncing recording of a live recording and using it at a performance. No that's not too much work, in fact that's barely any work compared to how the concert has to run and queing dancers and the singer to do their parts. To song a 4min song on a stage to give it its live sounding perfomance takes just about that 4mins. If you want a concert to go well and have to lip sync for it then go thru the small effort of making it a good lip syncing so you don't mess up and get boo'ed.

elepop 30th December 2004 04:32 PM

Have you ever even bother reading the lyrics of those songs?

She's the one who wrote those songs. Of course, when you listen to it, you just don't get emotions because you don't know what the songs are really about. Of course, it's not a song that reflects yours emotions and thoughts. It's Ayu's thoughts. She feels emotional about those song because they mean a lot to her.

Memorial Address and Teddy Bear - Songs about her dad which she never met.
A Song Is Born - Song about the tragedy of Sept.11
Who... - Final song in which talks about her being heartbroken

Back to the topic.

Yeah, sometimes, she lip synchs. Not all the time. It's no big deal. Period.

MsMiyabi 30th December 2004 04:35 PM

Yes Ayu does she did on A Musuem singing "Greatful Days"

PickleCookies 30th December 2004 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Ayusdream
ayu easily cries, i believe all her tears are real!!! she's just an artist, not a actress, if she's that good in producing tears, she could be a good actress already, lol

Actually, Ayu is an actress. Ever see the Dearest PV? Not many non-actresses can pull off a look like that. She was an actress before she started singing. Hence why most of her PVs aren't just singing. They involve more acting.

elepop 30th December 2004 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by PickleCookies
Actually, Ayu is an actress. Ever see the Dearest PV? Not many non-actresses can pull off a look like that. She was an actress before she started singing. Hence why most of her PVs aren't just singing. They involve more acting.

Dearest PV didn't very much involve acting. You see her walking... running... singing... If it is, well, it's bad acting.

PickleCookies 30th December 2004 06:37 PM

But it had it in there.

http://www.fizzyness.net/picklecooki...res/acting.jpg

You don't pull off a look like that without acting skills.

devilayu 30th December 2004 07:03 PM

Eeek, the thread was getting a little combative a couple pages back (it was entertaining nonetheless).
I think Ayumi definitely exaggerates her tears. There was one performance where she was crying and then 5 minutes later, she looked fine and was doing an interview. Most of the instances where she cries seem exaggerated and almost staged, but her tears during "Who..." performances are real I think.

I dunno what anyone else thinks but Ayumi uses backing tracks more now than she did a few years ago (and I'm not talking about those backup singers whose voices totally don't match her vocal range).

PickleCookies 30th December 2004 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by devilayu
Eeek, the thread was getting a little combative a couple pages back (it was entertaining nonetheless).
I think Ayumi definitely exaggerates her tears. There was one performance where she was crying and then 5 minutes later, she looked fine and was doing an interview. Most of the instances where she cries seem exaggerated and almost staged, but her tears during "Who..." performances are real I think.

I dunno what anyone else thinks but Ayumi uses backing tracks more now than she did a few years ago (and I'm not talking about those backup singers whose voices totally don't match her vocal range).

Exactly. :yes

thejadedangel 31st December 2004 02:28 AM

Actually, I'm started to cringe whenever I hear her backup vocals... or any artist's too. They're beginning to rely too much on them and it's just...annoying.

indicatoto101 31st December 2004 03:22 AM

To me, lip synching is when an artist pretends to produce a sound from theri mouth when, in actuality, the song is being played by some other source. Ayu usually doesen't pretend she is lip synching, either she is singing "live" or she isn't. Her using the backing tracks does not neccesarily mean she is lip-synching. Some sounds can not be produced by a human voice. We know a lot of trance/dance songs are created by "unnatural" sounds, so it's fit to have the track play in the background.
What I'm trying to say is that using the backing vocals does not make her a lip syncher because she is not pretending to sing those notes. She sings over them or she shuts up, telling the audience that the track is playing not her. Never is a strong word so I'm not going to say "She never lip-synchs" but I will say that she rarely or seldomly does. With the argument I made, you must believe me, RIGHT?

About her crying, I think it's a mixture of attention and reality, something "extra" to add to the performance. Everytime she does, she feels like she needs to cry but some of it is provoked by her need to set herself apart from other singers who don't give such emotional performances.

Just my take, and it is the correct one jk hehe

SunshineSlayer 31st December 2004 04:52 AM

I do believe that she rarely lip synchs. You can definitely tell when someone is - just watch a BoA concert, Britney Spears concert etc. It is obvious that they are lip synching. Ayu is rarely ever obvious and the few that are, are so different than her other performances that I am sure that her other performances are all her. Ayu has done it occassionally, but not very often. In all of her concerts that have been released on DVD, that is either her or there are a few times when Avex has replaced the vocal track before releasing it to the public. (Angel's Song in Arena 03-04) I really think she is singing live 90-95% of the time.

And if Ayu is lip synching that Teddy Bear/Memorial Address performance, then she is the best lip syncher in the history of the world. :) I really think that is her, it's just that those songs are better suited to her voice and she seemed to really just let her self go and go with it durring those songs.

And as for those who are saying her crying is fake? Unless you are Ayu herself, I don't know how you could know that. There are people that are just very emotional. Ayu's past and my past are similar with respect to our parents and I know that if I was performing songs like Teddy Bear/Memorial Address, I'd probally cry too.

indicatoto101 31st December 2004 05:05 AM

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Originally Posted by SunshineSlayer
And if Ayu is lip synching that Teddy Bear/Memorial Address performance, then she is the best lip syncher in the history of the world. :) I really think that is her, it's just that those songs are better suited to her voice and she seemed to really just let her self go and go with it durring those songs.


There is no way that performance could be lip synched. And for those of you who doubt her performance credibility just because it sounds too good, I could sing those songs. They aren't hard songs and she has practiced. :innocent

PickleCookies 31st December 2004 05:17 AM

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Originally Posted by SunshineSlayer
You can definitely tell when someone is - just watch a BoA concert, Britney Spears concert etc. It is obvious that they are lip synching.

What makes it so obvious?

SunshineSlayer 31st December 2004 05:36 AM

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Originally Posted by PickleCookies
What makes it so obvious?

There is just a whole different sound to it and feel to it. The only thing I can really say to demonstrate it is to tell you to watch one of Britney's concert videos.

An example of a time that Ayu did it, is the recent performance at the Asia Song festival - it was especially noticable durring the Boys and Girls performance, just like durring Britney and BoA performances, their mic level magically changes between the singing parts and the parts where they do their "woos" and "yeahs" and talk to the audience. :)

I also have a friend that is a voice actor (voices lots of cartoons and anime) and he seems to know all this technical sound stuff about how you can tell someone is lip synching. Now this isn't an "official" source of course, but he is usually very good at telling when something is studio recorded and when its not.

Qt Mashi 31st December 2004 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by PickleCookies
What makes it so obvious?

i watched Britney's concert on TV and it was a popular concert since her concert has only been on tv once here and alot of ppl was talking about her concert gonna be on tonight and i checked it out and it was totally obvious that she was lip synching even my friends can tell! when the song hits a high note her lips just don't match..

Qt Mashi 31st December 2004 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by SunshineSlayer
(Angel's Song in Arena 03-04) I really think she is singing live 90-95% of the time.

yup i think so too!

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Originally Posted by SunshineSlayer
And as for those who are saying her crying is fake? Unless you are Ayu herself, I don't know how you could know that. There are people that are just very emotional. Ayu's past and my past are similar with respect to our parents and I know that if I was performing songs like Teddy Bear/Memorial Address, I'd probally cry too.

i'd cry too, and i did cry watching those performances, but i was okay 5 mins later and no one could tell i cried

elepop 31st December 2004 05:01 PM

The only think that make it obvious for Britney Spears is because the song sounds EXACTLY like the album version. And the way she's dancing? There's no way she can sing normally and without hearing her breath. But i don't mind, i like Britney anyway.

AyuRlz 31st December 2004 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by asongforXX
Have you ever even bother reading the lyrics of those songs?

She's the one who wrote those songs. Of course, when you listen to it, you just don't get emotions because you don't know what the songs are really about. Of course, it's not a song that reflects yours emotions and thoughts. It's Ayu's thoughts. She feels emotional about those song because they mean a lot to her.

Memorial Address and Teddy Bear - Songs about her dad which she never met.
A Song Is Born - Song about the tragedy of Sept.11
Who... - Final song in which talks about her being heartbroken

Back to the topic.

Yeah, sometimes, she lip synchs. Not all the time. It's no big deal. Period.

nods! i think it is better to end this topic this way

indicatoto101 31st December 2004 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by asongforXX
The only think that make it obvious for Britney Spears is because the song sounds EXACTLY like the album version. And the way she's dancing? There's no way she can sing normally and without hearing her breath. But i don't mind, i like Britney anyway.


I don't want to start a hate thread on Britney but she can't sing no matter what: dancing or uselessly standing.

PickleCookies 31st December 2004 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by indicatoto101
I don't want to start a hate thread on Britney but she can't sing no matter what: dancing or uselessly standing.

Then don't say it. Because, in doing so, you're blantantly contradicting yourself.

I'm not particularily fond of her voice, but I have heard her sing live, and she does have a good voice.

lazytuna 28th February 2005 12:59 PM

I don't think Ayu ever lip synch..

//hikari 28th February 2005 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by CRAZYBOAT
I heard BoA lip synchs in almost 90% of her Korea Performances, which i thought it's very unpro.

And yeah, i think this is something to be proud of being an Ayu fan.


Its not just BoA .. A LOT of Korean singers lip-synch. Probably something to do with the TV Stations or special events that they have to perform at. BoA has no problem singing live.

bringer_of_the_sun 1st March 2005 05:28 AM

i don't believe that Ayumi lip-syncs, but I'm kind of wondering about the Hanabi II PV. If she didn't lip-sync or match the music to certain points in the video, then major props to her. I mean, how many people can sing that well while pretending to cry? I understand that they do edit her singing afterwards, but it's still an amazing feat.

tinyppl 1st March 2005 06:52 AM

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Originally Posted by bringer_of_the_sun
I mean, how many people can sing that well while pretending to cry?

O.O

I thought the vocals and everything are done in the recording studio then comes the acting of the pv. What do you mean she can sing so well while pretending to cry ?_?

mui-gei-tal 1st March 2005 07:19 AM

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Originally Posted by bringer_of_the_sun
i don't believe that Ayumi lip-syncs, but I'm kind of wondering about the Hanabi II PV. If she didn't lip-sync or match the music to certain points in the video, then major props to her. I mean, how many people can sing that well while pretending to cry? I understand that they do edit her singing afterwards, but it's still an amazing feat.

they usually play the song at the set, so that the artist can sing/mouth it...but the songs from the pvs are pre-recorded.

AYU makes me proud to not lip-synch!!! :yes

kayokyokufan 1st March 2005 07:08 PM

she lip-synchs. i've seen her do it before on hey hey hey music champ and some other times i can't recall. there's no shame in doing it though.

Marsx96 17th March 2005 04:00 AM

wow, this thread is like.... so mean to ayu -.-;

my boyfriend has had about a decade or more of musical history. he plays both the piano and trumpet. in almost every single live i've shown him, he has told me that ayumi is out of tune. i've had about 5 years of piano experience, so i'm not very keen to spot these things, but i sometimes hear them too. she's not out of tune THROUGHOUT the performance, but here and there she'll be off tune like that. you think that if she lip syncs, they'll just leave that in there? heck no! they would correct it in a jiffy.

and as for her tears being fake, you guys have got to be kidding me. she usually cries when she gets an award or if she sings an emotional song. sometimes she'll cry at the end of a long concert. she knows that she's blessed! she knows how hard it is to get where she is right now, so she's crying tears of joy. that's really terrible to accuse her of fake tears. i thought we were all ayu fans here.

well in a lot of performances, she either cries or lets the audience sing part of the song, or shout out random things in her mic--all of that can't be covered by a machine. all of that is real. :-/

MsMiyabi 17th March 2005 04:05 AM

All artists lip sync at least once

acimahs 17th March 2005 04:41 AM

Marsx96 u pertty much said what i was gonna say........i cry sometimes after i have preformed............and turst me those tears that ayu crys aren't fake they r real.......

nmskalmn 17th March 2005 05:30 AM

Can anyone tell me a specific TV performance where you think Ayu is lip synching?

PrismaticTears 18th March 2005 10:05 AM

Go ahead and dig up old news reports and that nonsense, anyone knows that vigorous dancing and singing is hard to do both at once with any quality. Many of BoA's fans requested that she simply dance during live performances and settle for lip-synching since the dancing is what they came to see. They already know that she can sing and didn't want to see both aspects of the performances compromised.

nmskalmn: Old hard drive with my big collection of out of comission so I can't think of any other particular performances other than A Museum in its entirety. On several of her old songs performed at A Museum where she uses a headset instead of a mic always seems suspicious (Notice Britney Spears rarely sings with a hand mic and seems to favor a headset?). She seemed to sing her older more high-pitched songs flawlessly when she seemed to miss a few notes aside from some off-key warbles performing with a mic on her current songs better attuned to her slightly deeper voice. Things like that generally I have suspicions of.

Marsx96:
Everyone else can defend themselves for the most part but I'd assume they meant a few performances, not every single occassion where she's performed live. Also her voice is not perfect, she has her own natural flaws to her voice which endear her to many of her fans, some of the off-key parts are very much so intentional I would assume (Ever heard of people praising her flatter than a board "lalalas" in several of her songs? It's a flavor they enjoy). Her voice is by no means terrible, she simply doesn't sing like a bell, her voice is not perfect.
Also she was previously an actress, take that as you will but I don't honestly believe that someone can begin crying at the same point in a song every time they sing it, every time they perform it which is very often. Also, one's vocal cords tighten as anyone who's every cried knows and yet she seems to be able to continue singing in the same manner she usually does after a few lines of flat notes, I doubt any vocal performer is trained well enough to defy biological conventions within a matter of a few seconds. Not saying her tears are always fake, simply saying they are not always real.
Wrapping up, just because the mic is on doesn't mean someone has to make noise. Play music in the background, move your lips to to the lyrics but make no noise. During an instrumental solo say anything that comes to mind out loud. Now, picture that you were a pop tart on stage performing with a microphone doing the same process mentioned earlier only you have a stadium sound system meant to amplify whatever is played through it, by no means anyone in the audience can honestly hear just 'you'. I hope that makes it clearer.

hiro 20th March 2005 02:04 AM

Singers usually wear headsets if they are dancing to free up their hands, i dont think it has any thing to do at all with lip-synching.

norain 20th March 2005 02:32 AM

-_- Just put it as ayumi's never lip synced, headset suspiciousness? Wow, you must be out of your mind...nothing wrong with a headset, they want to dance with there hands...don't compare her to britney spears, britney can't sing live at all

MsMiyabi 20th March 2005 02:55 AM

People I doubt someone has that much energy Ayu has lip-synched before

PrismaticTears 20th March 2005 04:33 AM

Read a bit more carefully, I brought Britney Spears up as an example, I was never making a comparison between your goddess and her.

Also I'm completely out of my mind for having an opinion, dear me, whatever shall I do?

I find a headset is suspicious because they usually aren't terribly high quality, albeit that would not be a problem with someone who has that much money behind them. Point I'm trying to get across is that if you've ever used a headset mic, the actual reciever moves around quite a bit especially if you jump about that much. She just so happens to readjust it from time to time and through it all, there is no fluctuation in the volume or timbre of her voice.

Yes I acknowledge that often singers will use a headset to free up their hands, I'm not surprised, it's sensible for those who put on an energetic performance. In the same manner that also makes room for a possible few episodes of lip-synching since exerting that much physical energy flapping about doesn't leave one with sufficient breath to sing up to one's normal standards and one might employ any means necessary to ensure that those standards are kept to scratch for one's audience. I never said something was wrong or morally objectionable about that, it's a bloody performance and all I truly care about is being entertained, this is commentary. :D

gakkun 20th March 2005 04:37 AM

It's not about whether Ayu synches or not...most (if not all) Jpop artists simply don't lip synch, however important the event is.

and also to the above post...I can point out many concerts in which Ayu used a headset and frankly runs terribly out of tune *shudders at Boys & Girls performances*

norain 20th March 2005 04:38 AM

lol, actually, I've used a headset, it's very stable unless you really want to move it...and I've jumped too, you actually have to use a little strength to move the headset's mic, not alot of strength just a little, and air doesn't have that much strength *as in jumping etc* so she wouldn't be lip syncing...but I do believe she lip syncs her encore presentation maybe...not all of it, just a few

Qt Mashi 20th March 2005 04:53 AM

Ayu used to sometimes play the songs from the cd while singing along with it in the chorus part to make it sound more intense but i relli dont think she ever lipsynched

i know that she lipsynched at the VERY end of Because of You in MTVJ Awards where she sang "Kimi ja nakya dame de" but thats hardly nothing

but yeah Ayu never actually lipsynched a full song before~i dont think....

arian 20th March 2005 09:54 AM

I'm sure Ayu has lip synched once or twice, probably not as much as a lot of other Jpop artists, but I'm sure she's done it.

I agree that artists should SING whenever fans pay to see them, but it's understandable if they lip synch for a few parts of the song, at least, when they have an extreme choreography going on. they of course don't want to sound all out of breathe for their fans in the middle of a performance which has demanding moves, and I'm sure you can't really sing THAT well when doing jumps on stage for example.

xoxoxo

PrismaticTears 20th March 2005 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by gakkun
It's not about whether Ayu synches or not...most (if not all) Jpop artists simply don't lip synch, however important the event is.

and also to the above post...I can point out many concerts in which Ayu used a headset and frankly runs terribly out of tune *shudders at Boys & Girls performances*

Yeah I can remember many of those >< I adore some of her old songs but I don't terribly adore them when she's recently tried to sing them x_x Just to set it on the table, not all cases of headset use = lip-synch in my book, they're just what I believe to be a sign of a higher likelihood of lip-synching blah blah blah.

So...who likes cookies?

elepop 20th March 2005 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by bringer_of_the_sun
i don't believe that Ayumi lip-syncs, but I'm kind of wondering about the Hanabi II PV. If she didn't lip-sync or match the music to certain points in the video, then major props to her. I mean, how many people can sing that well while pretending to cry? I understand that they do edit her singing afterwards, but it's still an amazing feat.

Every artists lip-synch for a music video. You don't know that? They play the song while filming the video. And when then edit the PV, they put the original song. They NEVER sing for real on PVs.

kinix 20th March 2005 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by asongforXX
Every artists lip-synch for a music video. You don't know that? They play the song while filming the video. And when then edit the PV, they put the original song. They NEVER sing for real on PVs.

Not really... Sometimes they do sing. Just that when they produce the PVs they never add in audio recorded from the shooting studio. The audio will be from the recording studio.

kristen 20th March 2005 05:40 PM

ayu isn't perfect, of couse she does every now and then :rolleyes

elepop 20th March 2005 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by kinix
Not really... Sometimes they do sing. Just that when they produce the PVs they never add in audio recorded from the shooting studio. The audio will be from the recording studio.

That's what i meant to say. Yes, something they do sing, if they feel like doing it. But it will never make it in the final version of the PV. The music video always contain the album version of the song.

elaniel 21st March 2005 10:32 PM

there area few performances I can guarentee Ayu lip synchs.

Its either this or avex thinks the vocal is poor and goes back in editing and just places the recording over instead.

I think ones she has definately lip synched to are:

Angels Song (Arena Tour 2003-2004)
Real Me (Almost every performance)
Unite! (IF you notice at the parts where the chorus overlaps, before the background singers were around, she only sings one part and it keeps playing)
Too Late (Cause its echoey)

//hikari 22nd March 2005 12:31 AM

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Originally Posted by asongforXX
That's what i meant to say. Yes, something they do sing, if they feel like doing it. But it will never make it in the final version of the PV. The music video always contain the album version of the song.

They only do this to make it look as if they are actually singing in the video. Making their throats move to the vibrato and taking in heavy breaths .. stuff like that.

kingster 4th June 2005 09:32 PM

i'm pretty sure ayu has lip synched before and thats totally fine. i mean sometimes you get a little exhausted from maybe intense dancing or if your sick/throat problems w/e. cuz even so you still gotta leave a smile on your face.

jojo-chen 5th June 2005 03:23 PM

well, I think that ayu is hates liar, so she won't lie to us. if ayu ever lip-sync, why does she sometime forget the song's lyric?

Chibi_Venus 5th June 2005 07:17 PM

I don't think she lip synchs. I highly doubt she does. If she ever did (or does), I wouldn't have guessed. She's a good singer, and any artist that lip-synchs is probably too lazy or afraid they will screw up, so they play the original track and mouth the words. I remember something about a singer in America singing, and she was caught on TV lip singing (Ashlee Simpson?). So, say Ayu was in a concert singing A Song For XX and then the next song she knew to sing was, I don't know, Greatful days. Say she sang A Song For XX, and the baned accidently played Dearest and there she goes singing Greatful days. She obviously doesn't lip synch because she knows what she's doing. Just look at the clip of her forgetting the words to Voyage. At least she's honest about it unlike some singers I could think of. :)

RAISKA 5th June 2005 07:33 PM

kristen, really??? I have this MTV performance! And I don't think that she lip synchs there! Her voice is not the one like in "Memorial adress''! It's like..she's sining live!

I'm confused! Never thought that Ayu could...
:rolleyes

ayu_luffy 8th June 2005 02:23 AM

I hope she doesnt lip synch, shes too good...

kentris 8th June 2005 11:32 AM

To be honest, to me, I feel that when Ayu sings live, it's almost exactly the same as her voice on the CDs and original tracks.

However some other artists (and mainly american artists) when I see/hear them sing live it's nowhere near their voices on their cds, so credits to Ayu.

I don't think Ayu lip syncs but I wouldn't dislike her if she did. I've seen performances where they play the track behind but she wouldn't lip sync to it, she'd actually sing to it and you can even hear her actual voice as well =D

nmskalmn 8th June 2005 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by kentris
I've seen performances where they play the track behind but she wouldn't lip sync to it, she'd actually sing to it and you can even hear her actual voice as well =D

Yeah, sometimes the backing track contains her background vocal, and this seems to confuse people.

In our karaoke contest some people sang to instrumental versions that had bg vocals. The existence of those bg vocals did not mean that they were lip syncing.

se7entheaven 8th June 2005 01:37 PM

OMG......PLEASE....
 
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Originally Posted by elaniel
there area few performances I can guarentee Ayu lip synchs.

Its either this or avex thinks the vocal is poor and goes back in editing and just places the recording over instead.

I think ones she has definately lip synched to are:

Angels Song (Arena Tour 2003-2004)
Real Me (Almost every performance)
Unite! (IF you notice at the parts where the chorus overlaps, before the background singers were around, she only sings one part and it keeps playing)
Too Late (Cause its echoey)


NO OFFENSE for my corrections...
please...for that ANGEL'S SONG performance in AT 03~04 A...ayu DIDN'T LYPSINC IT AT ALL...
c'mon... listen to da beats...IT'S SLOWER than the real one... if you said it's edited...ok...But They WON'T EVEN COULD EDIT TILL DA BEST.they just made it sound clearer coz' in that ARENA the sound system echoing !!!..remember...ayu is a perfectionist woman in this entire world I know..
for OTHER performance taht i hadn't seen yet..i dunno...but please.. trust in ayu...that "too late" intro is being MANIPULATE BY DA MANIPULATOR !!!
"Real me" also...it's ayu's REAL VOICE..
if u wanna know how good ayu sing some part just listen a small part of she taught independent dance...when she said in da last part "junbi wa ikkaii" while talking.....that's LYPSINC also?????????? NO

kentris 8th June 2005 01:47 PM

off topic: damn rendy you look like a guy I know! o.O

Anyway back on topic......

voltron 8th June 2005 04:10 PM

Ugh, why are people so blind? There are worse things in the world than lip-sinking. And yes, Ayu has done it before. And just because a track doesn't sound 100% like a CD track, doesn't mean she's not lip-sinking. Some artists record "stage" versions of the song...they edit the singing, just usually not as much as the actual CD version. Sometimes they use performances from the past that weren't lip-sinked. Anyway, I don't think she lip-sinks all the time, but to say she has NEVER done that is being naive and a stupid fanboy who refuses to see the truth.

kinix 8th June 2005 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by voltron
Ugh, why are people so blind? There are worse things in the world than lip-sinking. And yes, Ayu has done it before. And just because a track doesn't sound 100% like a CD track, doesn't mean she's not lip-sinking. Some artists record "stage" versions of the song...they edit the singing, just usually not as much as the actual CD version. Sometimes they use performances from the past that weren't lip-sinked. Anyway, I don't think she lip-sinks all the time, but to say she has NEVER done that is being naive and a stupid fanboy who refuses to see the truth.

But I dont think u can use the assume/think words to comment on something that u cant even prove.
This question will have no absolute ans at all until ayu came to speak for herself.
U shouldnt have comment on she have done it cos u dont even know it yourself. Unless your telling me u have seen her LIVE performing 10 feet infront of you. Even if u did I dont think u would even notice if she have done it pretty well.
Conclusion : This question is stupid as we'll come with no absolute ans and only replies from people who think that they're so smart, they have seen everything but cant even provide a SOLID prove...
No hard feeling but I'm really tired of all these questions where there'll be no absolute ans. And everyone just use the assume/think word. It'll affect ayu in one way or another so please stop it!
We're just acting like those stupid medias with fake reports!

MsMiyabi 8th June 2005 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by voltron
Ugh, why are people so blind? There are worse things in the world than lip-sinking. And yes, Ayu has done it before. And just because a track doesn't sound 100% like a CD track, doesn't mean she's not lip-sinking. Some artists record "stage" versions of the song...they edit the singing, just usually not as much as the actual CD version. Sometimes they use performances from the past that weren't lip-sinked. Anyway, I don't think she lip-sinks all the time, but to say she has NEVER done that is being naive and a stupid fanboy who refuses to see the truth.

thank you all artist Lip Sych I don't how famous they are. They all have atleast once

yys113 9th June 2005 04:20 AM

All of you who said ayu have lip sync, can you prove it please? Don't tell me every artist has to lip sync at least once, who told you that? Are you the one in charge of playing the lip-sync audio during their performances? If not, sorry you don't know crap about what you're claiming.

I don't really like it when people are trying to sounds like they are pro in this area and say stuff like "yeah, they all do that....", "yeah, ayu did that for a few times", if you don't know for sure, don't sound so sure.

SunshineSlayer 9th June 2005 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by yys113
All of you who said ayu have lip sync, can you prove it please? Don't tell me every artist has to lip sync at least once, who told you that? Are you the one in charge of playing the lip-sync audio during their performances? If not, sorry you don't know crap about what you're claiming.

I don't really like it when people are trying to sounds like they are pro in this area and say stuff like "yeah, they all do that....", "yeah, ayu did that for a few times", if you don't know for sure, don't sound so sure.

I agree. If Ayu lip synchs, then she is the best lip syncher of all time - and this is coming from someone who has seen her live. You usually can tell pretty easily when someone lip synchs.

There have been a couple of times when she has lip synched, but never for a whole song and the only times that she has that I know of, is because of some computerized effect that is on the album. Like at the end of I Am, the last couple of lines have a computer effect on her voice that she can't duplicate live, so she did lip synch that part of the song, but only because it was necassary.

elepop 11th June 2005 12:33 AM

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Originally Posted by yys113
All of you who said ayu have lip sync, can you prove it please? Don't tell me every artist has to lip sync at least once, who told you that? Are you the one in charge of playing the lip-sync audio during their performances? If not, sorry you don't know crap about what you're claiming.

Well, sometime, it's quite obvious. Ayu probably NEVER lip synch for a TV show or for an award show, which is awesome. But I think she have lip synch a few times (meaning 2 or 3) in her concert. Try "Greatful days" from A MUSEUM or "ANGEL'S SONG" from ARENA TOUR 2003-2004.

I to dislike when people try to sound like pros. Exemple, when "STEP you" came out, a lot of people said the song has very this, and the sound very that, and the whatsoever effects was this and that, and so on... :eyebrow But I think those 2 performances was quite obvious. She most likely to lip synch after a big opening of a concert. The next song, she usually lip synchs to catch her breathe.

That is what I think. Maybe, she really hasn't ever lip synchs. Only Ayu knows.

y2687 11th June 2005 12:44 AM

damn, it's like people who argue she does, WANT her to lipsynch O_o

I don't see why it's so important, as long as you all enjoy her music, who cares.

elepop 11th June 2005 12:50 AM

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Originally Posted by y2687
I don't see why it's so important, as long as you all enjoy her music, who cares.

Well, we are in a forum so it's normal to argue...

hamasaki_edwin 14th June 2005 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by a1strank
I can almost gaurantee Ayu lipsynched at the beginning of I am..(the vocal only part) on Arena tour 2002 :\ When she sings..her mouth does not match the sound...I've watched it many times....well I'm not 100% sure....and all of the sudden her vocal sounds so different right after the beginning of I am...

the key is "the type of mike she used"!when she sing i am,evolution,audience and unite! with the type of mike that was put on her ear her voice was very clear

addicted 14th June 2005 04:10 PM

ya she never did that b4.....i wondering u guys never hear ayu cds b4?
that is so much differences.if she did lip synch why those concert or live she was bad so why not just lip synch and unite , M some of the song of cuz is back up singer sing .
sigh.............blind

voltron 14th June 2005 05:10 PM

OK there are a few examples. Personally I think the thing she did in Korean was completely lip-synched. M sounded amazing, but it also sounded exactly like when I saw her live in CDL. And Boys & Girls was also amazing in Korea, but every other performance of it in the past few years has been far from nice sounding. She's been singing some older songs really, really well (Teddy Bear during Arena Tour)...but if she could still sing with the power that she used to, why is she bothering recording songs like she is now, with vocals that are fairly poor compared to how she used to sound?

ayuSgrl 15th June 2005 01:22 AM

i didn't see every ayu live.. but the ones i watched, i dunt remember she lip-sanched anything! but like others have said, BoA lip synchs ALOT! and when she came to D.C for a concert here, i went and she lip sanched ALL her 3 preformances that she did!! what a shame! i mena.. she came to preform for the FIRST time for her korean and non-korean fans, and there they see her lip synching!! soo sad! and the others didn't! u wonder why? -______________-

//hikari 15th June 2005 01:25 AM

BoA also dances ... and this topic is also not about other artists.

PrismaticTears 15th June 2005 02:04 AM

A fanclub or something specifically asked BoA that if singing and dancing at the same time is going to water down the performance of both, they'd prefer if she lip-synched since they already knew that she could sing (hence why they bought those album thingies) and wanted to go see her dance. I have no desire to root out the news article about this so tough beans.

kristen 15th June 2005 04:21 AM

Ayu has never lip synched an entire song, that i do believe. But she has lip synched parts of songs, and if anyone thinks she hasn't, i'm sorry but that's just plain ignorance.

Brittany 15th June 2005 04:23 AM

I'd rather sound crappy than lip synch. People put their money into seeing their favorite artist live.

From what I heard, not a lot of artists lip synch in Japan, but there are some that do it.

firefox 15th June 2005 05:40 AM

lip synch is easier; as long as I enjoy the performance it doesnt matter to me at all

SunshineSlayer 15th June 2005 06:40 AM

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Originally Posted by asongforXX
Well, sometime, it's quite obvious. Ayu probably NEVER lip synch for a TV show or for an award show, which is awesome. But I think she have lip synch a few times (meaning 2 or 3) in her concert. Try "Greatful days" from A MUSEUM or "ANGEL'S SONG" from ARENA TOUR 2003-2004.

That's because AVEX will sometimes dub over the original tracks before releasing them on DVD, but Ayu wasn't actually lip synching durring the concert. If you've seen the live TV broadcasts that were done on Sky Perfect TV of some of her concerts, you will hear that Avex went over Ayu original voice in a couple of her songs. (her voice wasn't THAT bad though, I think they could have left it alone in those couple of songs.)

SunshineSlayer 15th June 2005 06:47 AM

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Originally Posted by ayuSgrl
i didn't see every ayu live.. but the ones i watched, i dunt remember she lip-sanched anything! but like others have said, BoA lip synchs ALOT! and when she came to D.C for a concert here, i went and she lip sanched ALL her 3 preformances that she did!! what a shame! i mena.. she came to preform for the FIRST time for her korean and non-korean fans, and there they see her lip synching!! soo sad! and the others didn't! u wonder why? -______________-

Yep, I just saw BoA a couple of days ago as well and you could tell right away that she was lip synching. When someone lip synchs, it's usually very apparent and doesn't need to be discussed whether the person is lip synching or not. :) I saw Ayu live 2 nights in a row and I remember hearing slight differences. Like I remember on night 1, her voice cracked on one of the notes in Carols, but then in the second night, it did not - so unless she recorded multiple versions to lip synch to live - she doesn't lip synch. Almost every speculation of lip synching is Avex dubbing over the original track.

I do think she may have lip synched that performance in Korea though. Not really suprising though since lip synching is very accepted there, unfortunately.

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Originally Posted by firefox
lip synch is easier; as long as I enjoy the performance it doesnt matter to me at all

But for me, part of a singers performance, is to actually SING. :) And it is possible to dance and sing at the same time, it's certainly not as easy, but BoA herself does it quite often in her Japanese performances(even though the dancing isn't AS full out as in her Korean performances.) Also check out Namie's tours. She dances the hell out of them and her singing doesn't suffer very much.

SunshineSlayer 15th June 2005 06:49 AM

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Originally Posted by voltron
She's been singing some older songs really, really well (Teddy Bear during Arena Tour)...but if she could still sing with the power that she used to, why is she bothering recording songs like she is now, with vocals that are fairly poor compared to how she used to sound?

Well some people just sound better live in general than they do on CD. Take Maki Goto for example, I think her live voice sounds much better than her CD voice. And the same with Ayu, I've always preferred her voice live than on her CDs.

edited to add: Sorry! I should have put all 3 of these replies into one long post.

PrismaticTears 15th June 2005 09:17 AM

Namie's got skills though and you can tell she sings live since her voice will fluctuate when she jumps up and down or does a sudden move that changes her breathing.

Overall I don't particularly care who does it, just saying that they do, I know that they can and will sing well on a good day. Now if they're a talentless tramp like some other 'artists' (parishiltonwtf) then I'm somewhat bugged.

Ibitsu Kokoro 15th June 2005 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by kristen
Ayu has never lip synched an entire song, that i do believe. But she has lip synched parts of songs, and if anyone thinks she hasn't, i'm sorry but that's just plain ignorance.

Hmm ... that makes sense ... I remember watching one performance in dome tour that was a little bit peculiar in the chorus or something. However, a lot of times you can tell that she's not lip syncing.

se7entheaven 15th June 2005 12:59 PM

she just did in maybe once or twice
for the performances of M
OMGosh !!!!!
How come said THEY WERE ALL LYP SINC !!!!
tell you what....
I can alsi sing M very well and I don't have any prob...i'm a man u know... and this song IS special song from ayu which only she could used to sing it well... COMPARE her sounds singing M from 2000~2004 !!! REALLY DIFFERENT AND MORE MATURE !!!!
I even really love her M in CDL 04~05 a !!! PERFECT..even sometimes i thought she DO lypsinc la....... BETTER ask Those who EVER went to her CONCERT..e.g : Matt or SunshineSlayer


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