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Impracticable 29th November 2007 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by sora2522 (Post 1245503)
omg...




i can't really say anything...it's such a strong word ._.

agreed.

ownsarai 29th November 2007 05:51 PM

I love the title...one word can be so powerful and meaningful, I think that's why Ayu uses one word titles for her albums. I cannot wait for this album~ :vbhappy

cloud♥honey 29th November 2007 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Luv ~Venus~ (Post 1245395)
I was hoping for 14 songs and 14 PVs and Tour of Secret! :shrug I expect the cover to be white and Ayu sitting in a chair with a crown on her head!

ROFLMAO :roflmao

This is the best thing that you've said ever.

Rurutia 29th November 2007 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Ayesha (Post 1245237)
I'm quite surprised
It's avery strong name
it also reminds me of Duty, but this is even stronger.

but i am a little tired of the victim role she is getting... (miss)understaoo, guilty... what will be the next? murdered?

hahhahahhahahhahahha.......

austin. ♥ 29th November 2007 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by bluegie (Post 1245204)
My first association with GUILTY is Duty.

Me too! I hope GUILTY will be sort of similar to Duty, that's probably her best album.

cttncandy 29th November 2007 06:52 PM

I like it! Guilty sounds really promising =)

DestinyWishes 29th November 2007 07:09 PM

I can't wait for the album, I hope it's rock influenced, that would be cool, but I love whatever Ayu does.

ayu_ready? 29th November 2007 07:09 PM

awesome title!

Foxxy_Fuyumi 29th November 2007 07:43 PM

WOW Totally unexpected!
I think is really a poweful and meaning word, hope the songs fit in this world of "guiltiness" LOL
Now Im more certain that the songs will be like Heartplace, Memorial, Because of You and stuff like that.

Diana 29th November 2007 07:48 PM

It`s kind of .. more like single title, but I like it :yes ... I`m sooooo interested in cover!! :D Thanx for the info

~ayu-cake~ 29th November 2007 08:01 PM

I like the title, I think it's perfect especially after the events that occured this year.

ayujarl 29th November 2007 08:03 PM

Very nice title. I wish the song would be strong, like "Duty" or "I am..."

an album per year, thx Ayu :p

Impracticable 29th November 2007 08:31 PM

I agree with ayujarl

hopefully "GUILTY" is a VERY powerful song like both Duty and I am...

KuroixShiroi_Namida 29th November 2007 08:37 PM

I hope the title track will be awesome like Duty and I am... too. Actually all of ayus title songs are awesome, especially Secret XD!

sugarbasil 29th November 2007 08:45 PM

I really love this title. I really think it just might be the best one yet (excluding Memorial Address). It's just so powerful!! I'm looking forward to it a lot more now. :D

ayuayu798 29th November 2007 08:49 PM

I love the title!!!

tokyoxjapanxfan 29th November 2007 08:57 PM

i susepect she'll release 2 original albums in 2008. GUILTY, in january, and hen another one in december of 2008. like i am... and rainbow. seing as it's her 10th anniversary :D

KaoriNeko 29th November 2007 09:11 PM

^she HAS to. That'd be so unfair if she just released GUILTY. Then by the end of the year she'll have her 10th full length album to celebrate the closing of her tenth year. ^.^ ~ !

PrincessAyu 29th November 2007 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by KuroixShiroi_Namida (Post 1245209)
fated - talkin' 2 myself - decision - together when... - glitter


It seems glitter doesn't fit in XD!

maybe she'll leave it out and go for depressive songs only. :innocent

Larisa-chan 29th November 2007 09:14 PM

I love the title :) I was praying there wouldn't be a (miss)understood or a silly title like "time 2 go 2 u" hahaha <3

austin. ♥ 29th November 2007 09:15 PM

I still can't believe she managed 2+1/2 singles and an album in 4 and a half months...

KaoriNeko 29th November 2007 09:17 PM

^I actually never thought about that, but wow.

nightlightyear 29th November 2007 09:25 PM

Sounds cool!! Thank you so much for the information! I cant wait to hear what itll be like.

PS: Whoa~ never realized that this title could suit the breakup she had with her ex....

namiie 29th November 2007 09:26 PM

Oh. Okay. :shrug *is underwhelmed*

Thanks for the info!

Chibi_Venus 29th November 2007 09:28 PM

nightlightyear: Somehow I have this feeling that some of these titles just SEEM to look like they have a connection with the break-up. You know? Either A) people are still hung up on it, or B) because the break-up was somewhat serious and sudden, every title now seems... intense, if that's the right word. (I'm not saying you're wrong. ;))

I'm going to drop that thought and just look forward to the new album. :)

Calico 29th November 2007 09:32 PM

^Agreed. I get tired of everything Ayu does having to be about Nagase. I mean I expect a song or two, but let's give the woman a benefit of a doubt and assume she doesn't spend every waking moment thinking about it. I didn't even relate GUILTY to Nagase.

Eh...I'm still eh about the title.

zoomzoom 29th November 2007 09:33 PM

Strong name! Sounds as mysterious as Secret..

xiaou-xijiang 29th November 2007 09:39 PM

I wasn't expecting that! I had a feeling i'd be getting some ayu news.

Akira Tsukizawa 29th November 2007 09:44 PM

Good title.
Thanks for good news.

Zeke. 29th November 2007 09:45 PM

I love the title as well but I was trying to AVOID IT! Damn it. I literally started swearing when I saw it, I was like "F*K YOU! F*K YOU!" Ha Ha. Now I have less of a surprise waiting for me when the album is released. God I need to just ban myself from AHS for about 2 months but I don't want to miss any good Asian downloads or the scans from Ayu's upcoming magazine shoots.

Xocoley25oX 29th November 2007 09:53 PM

Wow, That Is An Interesting Title. I Can't Wait To Get The Album!

ComatoseBunnySnatcher 29th November 2007 10:22 PM

I like it.
At first I was uneasy, but then I became fond of it.


btw, she's guilty cus she cheated on Nagase with Kuu(as it's the only logical explanation).

Beauty4123 29th November 2007 10:46 PM

love the name! i can't wait!

[taskin.ayu] 29th November 2007 10:53 PM

If Ayu was like Namie, glitter would have been so left out of the album. XDD Everything else is such a different style.

ComatoseBunnySnatcher 29th November 2007 10:56 PM

giltter or some other song should be re-arranged.

Hazuki 29th November 2007 11:00 PM

"GUILTY" sopunds REALLY good. I'm looking forward to the album tracks and their lyrics.
Ho crap there's a photobook also :'D
I already decided to go with Kumi this time but I'm going to be poor again D:

Bigtop 29th November 2007 11:23 PM

Umm...that's kind of unusual...why does she chose that name? All because of the songs related to the theme in the name itself?

ShockingPink 29th November 2007 11:39 PM

Can't wait to see/hear what the overall theme for this album will be!! :D

evolution7931 29th November 2007 11:44 PM

LOVE THAT TITLE.<3

ComatoseBunnySnatcher 29th November 2007 11:47 PM

i hope it starts with opo songs, then goes to ballads and then to rock.

cttncandy 29th November 2007 11:50 PM

They should totally re-arrange glitter or leave it out of the album.

ComatoseBunnySnatcher 29th November 2007 11:53 PM

^ exactly.

I'd want decision to be re-arranged as a ballad too.

alt.total-loser 29th November 2007 11:58 PM

It's about as stunning as the titles RAINBOW and Secret.

Coelacanth 30th November 2007 12:03 AM

A Song for ××
LOVEppears
Duty
I am...
RAINBOW
Memorial address
MY STORY
(miss)understood
Secret
GUILTY

It looks weird. Tracklist, please.

bluegie 30th November 2007 12:09 AM

why do you think it's weird?
I sorta think (and I really hope that) ayu's revisiting her old days. It doesn't mean the songs in GUILTY will be recycling the materials from Duty, but at least I hope the feeling will be similar. Up till now I still think her LOVEppears/Duty eras are the best times.

futureLOVE 30th November 2007 12:12 AM

I hope she does a song for her auidiences (evolution, independent, AUDIENCE, etc)...she hasnt done that in a while...last one was Humming 7/4

i just think that would be nice..i think that if the whole GRAVITY rumor had been true, then it would have been that type of song...:P

but i'm really excited to see what comes out in the next week regarding tracklisting and/or covers.

Also, avex is doing with Ayu what they should of done with kuu...rather than releasing all of the information at once, they should of released the name, then the covers, then the tracklist...it probably creates more anticipation that way, seeing as how everything has been revealed about KINGDOM and anytime.

zoomzoom 30th November 2007 12:18 AM

^until that Day... was an audience song, I think. Right? It was like evolution

Impracticable 30th November 2007 12:20 AM

Not really.

Audience, evolution, Humming 7/4 etc where more of like "CLAP YOUR HANDS!!" type songs, while until that day is more of a dance type song.

At least that;s my opinion.

alt.total-loser 30th November 2007 12:21 AM

From what I saw of the performance, until that Day... didn't seem like an audience song at all.

I suppose a new sing-along song would be nice. D: Suppose...

I must say I like the 'logo', though.

minna 30th November 2007 12:46 AM

ayu you're guilty of what O_O??
so surprising !! But I loove it!!!
sounds kind of punchy don't you think?
I can't wait to see the tracklist, hopefully it will come out soon!

alt.total-loser 30th November 2007 12:48 AM

I wonder if a song called GUILTY will be on the tracklist. Or if maybe we'll have a secret track?

Namie 30th November 2007 01:05 AM

I have a feeling that Guilty is going to be my favorite album by ayu :D I hope hehehe

Neo Daydream 30th November 2007 01:30 AM

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Originally Posted by INSPIRE1978 (Post 1245774)
I hope she does a song for her auidiences (evolution, independent, AUDIENCE, etc)...she hasnt done that in a while...last one was Humming 7/4

oo! me too! i'm so ready for a song like that! ^^

Northerner 30th November 2007 01:32 AM

Awesome! I'm so glad those lame rumor titles like NECESSARY, purity, and (worst of all) BREAKIN' BIRTH were fake.

GUILTY sounds dramatic, and I hope it'll be filled with more songs like "talkin' 2 myself," "fated," and "Together When..."

For some reason, I think this album could turn out to be the sister of MY STORY.

panda87 30th November 2007 01:43 AM

duuuuuuuude, she always suprises me. this title is AWESOME. love it. can't wait for the album! OMGAH OMGAH OMGAH!

LacusClyne 30th November 2007 02:14 AM

that's a very ayu-rish title. sort of epected that her title will be a great name

Ayufan11 30th November 2007 02:16 AM

yayyy!!! GUILTY I love it!! :)

truehappiness 30th November 2007 02:23 AM

The title song will probably rocky or maybe a ballad. :o

Yukitora 30th November 2007 02:32 AM

I'm not a fan of the title... but I wasn't a fan of Secret right when it came out either, so meh.

Her best titles tend to be the longer ones like A Song for XX, LOVEppears, (miss)understood imo.

truehappiness 30th November 2007 02:38 AM

Eh, we'll eventually get used to it. People wouldn't get over STEP you for a few months.. D:

Deep snow 30th November 2007 02:50 AM

ayu's album titles are... BLEH.
this reminds me of what - BLUE's album
i hope this sounds (and SELLS) better than Secret

truehappiness 30th November 2007 02:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Deep snow (Post 1245891)
ayu's album titles are... BLEH.
this reminds me of what - BLUE's album
i hope this sounds (and SELLS) better than Secret

How is it bleh? Just because it doesn't suit your needs? :mischief

ruixiong89 30th November 2007 03:32 AM

Reminds me of DUTY! :D But I like the title!

KaoriNeko 30th November 2007 03:36 AM

Why does everyone think it sounds like Duty? I don't get it. Just because it ends in a y? X_X If ayu released an album called MY FROSTED FLAKES people would flip out because it sounds like MY STORY. Ugh, that's so stupid. No offense to anyone, but seriously...

truehappiness 30th November 2007 03:38 AM

I wonder if this album will be the second coming of Duty? :D lol

After all, Kunio Tago of Duty fame came back XD

Ayu_no_tenshi 30th November 2007 03:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Nippon (Post 1245693)
btw, she's guilty cus she cheated on Nagase with Kuu(as it's the only logical explanation).

you are so retarded!! LOL
i laughed so hard when i read that hahaha

Ayu_no_tenshi 30th November 2007 03:52 AM

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Originally Posted by KaoriNeko (Post 1245920)
Why does everyone think it sounds like Duty? I don't get it. Just because it ends in a y? X_X If ayu released an album called MY FROSTED FLAKES people would flip out because it sounds like MY STORY. Ugh, that's so stupid. No offense to anyone, but seriously...

HAHAHAHA

I was just thinking the same thing ><

ladytaboo 30th November 2007 03:57 AM

GUILTY? Heh. I like it. It does sound dramatic, which I hope is a good thing.

sexysaucestar 30th November 2007 04:03 AM

Guilty as charged, ohohohoho :laugh

Nice title.

amorphose 30th November 2007 04:06 AM

The title sounds promising. I'm hoping for a second MY STORY here. :) Love me some Ayu rock. :D

s1012h 30th November 2007 04:14 AM

i know what ayu's guilty of
RELEASING GLITTER! :P
i would be so happy if glitter wasn't on the album
but of course that's never gonna happen

elvis810 30th November 2007 04:17 AM

I read from a source that the cover is gonna have a crystal skull, looking forward to it

truehappiness 30th November 2007 04:18 AM

Crystal skull? O_o;

Hopefully it's not just the skull..

KaoriNeko 30th November 2007 04:22 AM

It should be her in her panties with a bottle of milk on top of a crystal skull. xD just kidding. It'd be awesome if she had a cool cane with a crystal skull on it, that'd be hot. And a top hat! She'd be a pimp!!!!

username 30th November 2007 04:29 AM

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Originally Posted by KuroixShiroi_Namida (Post 1245209)
fated - talkin' 2 myself - decision - together when... - glitter


It seems glitter doesn't fit in XD!

glitter do fit xD guilty of falling in love xDD

Luv ~Venus~ 30th November 2007 04:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coelacanth (Post 1245766)
A Song for ××
LOVEppears
Duty
I am...
RAINBOW
Memorial address
MY STORY
(miss)understood
Secret
GUILTY

Hehehe....here's my rap of Ayumi studio albums:

She had a song for xx named Nagase whose love(a)ppears to have been lacking the Duty that she needed. So she took more control and finally released I am and along came that beautiful Rainbow. Her memorial address was soon my story of my life. They (miss)understood her whole secret which she felt guilty for not explaining it!

:roflmao That sucked ass! XD

Northerner 30th November 2007 04:41 AM

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Originally Posted by elvis810 (Post 1245952)
I read from a source that the cover is gonna have a crystal skull, looking forward to it

Like her necklace from the MY STORY booklet? :tipsy

cttncandy 30th November 2007 04:49 AM

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Originally Posted by KaoriNeko (Post 1245920)
Why does everyone think it sounds like Duty? I don't get it. Just because it ends in a y? X_X If ayu released an album called MY FROSTED FLAKES people would flip out because it sounds like MY STORY. Ugh, that's so stupid. No offense to anyone, but seriously...

I know right, I don't get the comparison with Duty at all :tired

Luther10 30th November 2007 04:59 AM

Glitter is AWESOME!!! Stop the hating..., please.....

ruchan 30th November 2007 05:05 AM

http://avexnet.or.jp/ayu/images/disc.../avvd90057.jpg
^is the cover

Kaiouforever 30th November 2007 05:05 AM

She's definitely gonna get a lot of media attention with this album title. I hope sales will be good then. =] Just look at Utada's "Flavor or life" sales after her divorce.

Kobayashiwoof 30th November 2007 05:12 AM

Glitter can still fit in the album, just because its the stand out track from her singles, it doesnt mean it cant fit with her album. Ahhyewmiiiiiii

mui-gei-tal 30th November 2007 05:29 AM

oh wow~ guilty~ hahaha...looking forward =)

zeroshin888 30th November 2007 05:33 AM

Sounds lovely and very subtle. I wonder what she's guilty about? Perhaps breaking up with Tomoya? lol

truehappiness 30th November 2007 05:48 AM

GUILTY will probably be explained in detail later...

Perhaps it'll have to do with family issues?

cttncandy 30th November 2007 06:13 AM

It would be cool if she re-arranged any of her singles, because like that you wouldn't have the same version and people might be like "ooooh same song but with a different beat shiiiiiiiiiiiny i want!!! :D" lol

jkm444 30th November 2007 06:25 AM

GUILTY sounds great! Can't wait till da tracklist and cover come out. Even those a lot of people want glitter to have new arrangement, I highly doubt tat will happen the last time her songs got new arrangement is for endless sorrow or was it her A ballad album.

CHE.R.RY 30th November 2007 06:27 AM

Hmmm makes me wonder what the cover and photoshoot will be like...I like that font though :3

Mirai Noah 30th November 2007 07:26 AM

I like the title and the logo. :)

lfe. 30th November 2007 12:06 PM

interesting title

Rebirthia 30th November 2007 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by namiie (Post 1245912)

For now, I think Guilty doesn't sound like Ayu's style because even though she has her insecurities like everyone else, a lot of her songs speak of picking yourself up and moving on. To name an entire album over a feeling such as guilt shows a drastic change in Ayu's persona to me, in that songs before stated how even though the going gets tough, it's possible that tomorrow will be better. "Memorial Address" sounded just like Ayu in that it has an elegant sort of subtlety to it. Ayu's always had a frank personality and given the emotional caliber of the song/album (with profound songs like Because of You, No way to say and of course, the title track), it was fitting that she wanted to broadcast her feelings---(memorially) addressing her feelings, as it were---in such a manner.


I love the way you analyse things, you must write great essays :luv2

Well, I shall explain why I relate the title "guilty" to "victimism".

I'm used to deconstruct the meanings (I study Criticism at the university and my favourite is deconstruction so... I can't help it :shakehead)

I relate the meaning of "guilty" with those of "forgiveness", "regret"... If you feel guilty for something (it doesn't matter why), you may expect redemption and forgiveness from the others.

A guilty person is someone that has done something (he or she is the subject), but, if we take into account the idea of forgiveness, that "guilty" person becomes the object of others forgiveness.

She claimed to be (miss)understood already; now she expects to be forgiven. OK, she has said it in a very subtle way, but to me, it has been implied.

In my opinion, this creates a certain uneasiness to her audience, to their fans.

(this is just my opinion, of course)

As I write these lines, I realise Ayu establishes a dialogue with us through her titles (well, I suppose I already know this, and you too, but with this title in particular, I think it is even smarter, stronger and relevant).

BUT, ok, let's study the title from another perspective.

It seems to me that playing the role of Ayumi Hamasaki involves a great effort to Ayu's persona (using really well chosen word by namiie). She is constantly fighting (we read it in her lyrics), and she loses sometimes. I am sure she feels she has lost some of her true identity through these years. And she feels guilty for that... has it been really worth of it? This is one of the possible reasons for that guilt.

4ever*ayu 30th November 2007 01:35 PM

nice, ayesha! love your analysis. . <3

btw, great album title, GUILTY

is there any chance ayu feel guilty for not visiting Indonesia :D on her Asia Tour this year!? LOL....:P

Oujiro 30th November 2007 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Kashoku (Post 1245223)
GUILTY! WOOOOOOOOOO!
I FEEL SO EMPTY!

All I can think of is the Rasmus song now!! D: D: D: D: D:

hahahahhahahahhaha!!! i felt the same way xDDD

is nice name hehehe maybe ayu is feeling GUILTY for something hehe i hope she explain what does she meaning with this name

AK~cuby 30th November 2007 03:01 PM

THE TITLE LET ME VERY SUPRISE~~

freedreamer 30th November 2007 03:35 PM

if the song is about feeling GUILTY to herself, i think it really really is very meaningful..

Raiu-Ayu 30th November 2007 04:23 PM

I like GUILTY :D Sounds like it could be a good album and song (if indeed their is a song called GUILTY)

I hope ayu takes a more rock type approach with this. And I hope she scraps glitter or at the very least goes all A Song for XX "030213 Session#2" on it's ass!

Beyond the Sea 30th November 2007 05:32 PM

Here's how the title came to be, oh great over thinkers of AHS:

Ayu: (In Japanese) Hey Max, we need a new english album title. Whats a cool english word?

Max: (Opens a dictionary to a random page and points to word)

Ayu: AHHH! GIRUTI! SUGOI!

ayu-fan 30th November 2007 05:42 PM

giruti?? LOL

DA1SUK1DAY01691 30th November 2007 06:10 PM

Interesting.... I like it. I think the raw emotion from the title itself is really exciting. If we can get good covers with a great title, I'm sure this will outsell miss(understood).

Impracticable 30th November 2007 06:34 PM

I really like ayesha's and namiie's analysis'.

They were very interesting to read.

x3


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