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Luv ~Venus~ 19th March 2008 05:32 AM

I hate the pink font. Why could she have done something similar to The Emanicipation of Mimi cover ?!<~That cover was HAWT!!!

TITANIC 19th March 2008 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by dokidokisuru (Post 1378278)

wee. so simple... i dun like the cover....
i prefer EOM

drewbilation 20th March 2008 03:05 PM

tracklist is now out:

01. Migrate featuring T-Pain
02. Touch My Body
03. Cruise Control featuring Damian Marley
04. I Stay In Love
05. Side Effects featuring Young Jeezy
06. I'm That Chick
07. Love Story
08. I'll Be Lovin' U Long Time
09. Last Kiss
10. Thanx 4 Nothin'
11. O.O.C.
12. For The Record
13. Bye Bye
14. I Wish You Well

voltron 20th March 2008 03:08 PM

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Billboard Update
Below, find the chart positions for "Touch My Body" in Billboard magazine issue dated March 29, 2008.

"Touch My Body"
Billboard Hot 100: #14 (Last Week #16)
Billboard Hot 100 Airplay: #4 (Last Week #4)
Billboard Pop 100: #20 (Last Week #25)
Billboard Pop 100 Airplay: #8 (Last Week #14)
Billboard Hot R&B/Hip-Hop Songs: #10 (Last Week #11)
Billboard Hot R&B/Hip-Hop Airplay: #10 (Last Week #11)
Billboard Hot Dance Airplay: #13 (New Entry)
Billboard Hot Adult R&B Airplay: #9 (Last Week #14)
Billboard Rhythmic Top 40: #5 (Last Week #6)
Billboard Top 40 Mainstream: #9 (Last Week #14)
Billboard Hot Videoclip Tracks: #1 (Last Week #1)
Billboard Hot RingMasters: #3 (Last Week #3)
Source: MariahDaily

dddaiyamondo 21st March 2008 05:30 AM

^I wish it would've moved up a little bit further.

voltron 21st March 2008 01:38 PM

It will next week. No digital downloads have been up for sale yet, so this is all purely based on airplay. I believe the track goes on sale on Tuesday of next week, so it's sure to jump to #2 or #1, depending how it compares with that annoying new Usher song.

fanmail 21st March 2008 08:04 PM

1500*1500 Cover

LOL. Flop cover. </3

ayu-fan 21st March 2008 08:23 PM

wow, the cover is really bad. kinda remind me of koda kumi's dvd and calendar font which ruined the image.

Zachery! 21st March 2008 08:47 PM

Although i don't like Mariah ... I like the cover.

Also, can the mods please change "That Chick" in the title to "E=MC²"

dddaiyamondo 22nd March 2008 12:08 PM

That cover is amazing.... gorgeous. Reminds me so much of her #1's cover:
http://i27.tinypic.com/195r95.jpg

TITANIC 22nd March 2008 02:28 PM

actually i dont like touch my body...
it's like that is better..

TMB so boring..
i hope next single will be awesome

Cyria 22nd March 2008 04:20 PM

I think the cover could have been better. Mariah's personal look is simple and classily sexy, but the feathers are big and distracting and seem like they belong in another photo. It's a kind of unsuccessful combination of beaty and tackiness - they should have just picked one style or the other. Mariah could look at home in both, but this 50/50 cover doesn't really suit her.

TITANIC 22nd March 2008 04:50 PM

i saw on wikipedia almost all song written by mariah

Ayu_no_tenshi 22nd March 2008 05:18 PM

if you're a fan of Mariah...look at this:

http://www.ahsforum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=71461

dddaiyamondo 22nd March 2008 11:43 PM

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Originally Posted by riozz (Post 1383993)
i saw on wikipedia almost all song written by mariah

Mariah's written pretty much all of her stuff for the past 18 years.

Northerner 23rd March 2008 04:55 AM

I actually like the cover, even though I'm a bit disappointed that it's not the picture with the hat that was posted earlier.

Definitely 100% better than Madonna's new cover, that's for sure. I like Madonna and I'll be getting the album regardless of the cover, but that doesn't stop me from thinking it's just terrible. :headache

Neo Daydream 23rd March 2008 05:31 AM

funny thing my roomie said when she saw this "touch my body cuz no one else will!" lol

truehappiness 23rd March 2008 05:45 AM

I think the cover is trying to cover up any... awkwardness with her body, so that people won't point out any obvious photoshopping when she appears live..

Didn't that happen with the Emancipation of Mimi?

drewbilation 23rd March 2008 08:14 AM

well, when she performed on SNL, her body looked really good. she's definitely lost a lot of weight.

TITANIC 23rd March 2008 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by dddaiyamondo (Post 1384392)
Mariah's written pretty much all of her stuff for the past 18 years.

woow.. i dunno aboutthat..
i thought she just wrote the lyric

Kaiouforever 27th March 2008 05:40 AM

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Originally Posted by dddaiyamondo (Post 1383706)
That cover is amazing.... gorgeous. Reminds me so much of her #1's cover:
http://i27.tinypic.com/195r95.jpg

Wow she looks SO unhealthy there. Her body is not meant to be that small.

voltron 28th March 2008 08:01 PM

Please support Mariah by buying Touch My Body on iTunes.

Original Version

Official Remix feat. The Dream

dddaiyamondo 1st April 2008 07:30 AM

Billboard itself wrote an article about how Mimi will probably get the #1 spot next week on their Hot 100 Singles Chart! If she gets that position, it will push her ahead of Elvis for the second highest number of #1s ever, only behind the Beatles!:

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Mariah Closing In On Record For No. 1 Hits
Mariah Carey is on track to collect her 18th No. 1 on the Billboard Hot 100 singles chart next week.

"Touch My Body," the first single from her upcoming album, dipped one place to No. 15 on the latest survey. But the fresh availability of a digital download should send the song hurtling to the top next week.

That will push Carey to second place among artists with the most No. 1s in the rock era. The record is held by the Beatles with 20; Carey is currently tied with Elvis Presley.

Carey's album, "E=MC2," the follow-up to her 2005 Grammy-winning smash "The Emancipation of Mimi," arrives April 15 via Island Def Jam.

Asked recently by Billboard if she ever thinks about surpassing the Beatles' record, Carey admitted with a laugh, "I do, because people bring it up. But it's not like I sit around thinking about that type of stuff while I'm creating something. I did write this record in terms of wanting it to be a lot of songs that could potentially be singles, because people like that."

"I think it would be phenomenal," Island Def Jam Music Group chairman Antonio "L.A." Reid says of the prospect. "But the real goal is to create music the whole world can sing. And if we break records and set some milestones while doing that, that would be beautiful."

Note: The final Billboard position for "Touch My Body" will be published on Wednesday.

bondingo 1st April 2008 11:11 AM

I think Touch My Body is alright. It's definitely not a Mariah classic, but then again, nothing on Mimi was either. Hopefully there are some really good hits on E=MC2. I do like the cover because the font is really nice and she looks nice in the feathery garment.

TITANIC 1st April 2008 05:18 PM

what is her 2nd single??

voltron 2nd April 2008 03:49 AM

Comcast exclusive content:
Love Story
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=AzVxXDu_QTs

Migrate
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=LHwL8bK7cfY

Bye Bye
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=j8u1rR7wjUY

kotora 2nd April 2008 05:10 AM

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Originally Posted by riozz (Post 1397682)
what is her 2nd single??

Bye Bye is 2nd Single

dddaiyamondo 2nd April 2008 05:13 AM

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Originally Posted by kotora (Post 1398523)
Bye Bye is 2nd Single

Not true. It has yet to be decided currently. As a longtime Mariah fan, I know that at least 2 or 3 singles get mentioned by Mariah and/or the label before one is chosen.

kotora 2nd April 2008 05:18 AM

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Originally Posted by dddaiyamondo (Post 1398528)
Not true. It has yet to be decided currently. As a longtime Mariah fan, I know that at least 2 or 3 singles get mentioned by Mariah and/or the label before one is chosen.

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Carey confirmed in a radio interview in late March 2008 that the song (Bye Bye) will be the official second single from her upcoming album E=MC˛.[1] Carey also announced she might sing it on her performance on Idol Gives Back.
Resource : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bye_Bye..._Carey_song%29
(Radio Interview with Mariah Carey) http://www.zshare.net/audio/969663254eb3eb/

dddaiyamondo 2nd April 2008 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by kotora (Post 1398530)

I told you, I've been a Mariah fan for a LONG time. I know what she does, she'll confirm one single, and then a month later a totally different single comes out. It's been happening ever since Butterfly. I remember when she confirmed that "Say Somethin'" would be the lead single off of TEOM, but that never happened. Trust me, she confirms a lot of stuff that never happens as far as singles.

Halla 2nd April 2008 02:02 PM

I think "Migrate feat T-Pain" will be the second US single, I think they'll release a club track next rather than another mid-tempo song ...

it's just my guess tho. she releases different singles in different regions too though.

voltron 2nd April 2008 04:12 PM

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"Touch My Body" is Mariah's 18th #1!

Congratulations Mariah! The explosive new single "Touch My Body" is Mariah's emancipated 18th! The song is the new #1 on Billboard's Hot 100 Singles chart (issue date: April 12, 2008), getting Mariah to break the tie with Elvis for most #1s by a solo artist in the rock era.

More about "Touch My Body"
• This week marks 78 cumulative weeks for Mariah at the #1 spot on the Hot 100. She is only 2 weeks behind Elvis Presley who holds the all-time record!

• As a songwriter, Mariah breaks the tie with Barry Gibb and takes the 3rd place for songwriters with most #1 hits. Only Paul McCartney with 32 and John Lennon with 26 have more.

• With 286,000 downloads, "Touch My Body" breaks the record for the first-week sales of a digital single! Not only is it Mariah's best single-week digital tally, it also breaks Mariah's previous first-week sales of a single ("Heartbreaker" debuted in 1999 with 271,000 copies sold.)

• "Touch My Body" debuted on the Hot 100 in the Billboard Issue of March 1, 2008. This is its 7th week on the Hot 100 chart and here is the chart run for the song so far: 57-34-24-16-14-15-01

• "Touch My Body" was first premiered on American radio on Tuesday, February 12, 2008. In about 6 hours, the song was played approximately 500 times in different radio stations across the US. It also had the biggest first week airplay since Mariah's "I'll Be There" in 1992. The song quickly exploded in all four major radio formats (Top 40 Mainstream, Rhythmic/Crossover, Urban, Adult R&B) and after only five weeks, it entered the top 10 in each format and reached #4 on the Hot 100 Airplay.

• The fun music video, directed by Brett Ratner, premiered on BET/MTV/VH1 on February 27 and quickly became the most viewed video on YouTube, Yahoo and AOL Music as well as the highest ranked video on the TRL and 106 & Park countdowns.
Source: MariahDaily

Congrats Mariah!

kotora 2nd April 2008 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by dddaiyamondo (Post 1398829)
I told you, I've been a Mariah fan for a LONG time. I know what she does, she'll confirm one single, and then a month later a totally different single comes out. It's been happening ever since Butterfly. I remember when she confirmed that "Say Somethin'" would be the lead single off of TEOM, but that never happened. Trust me, she confirms a lot of stuff that never happens as far as singles.

so? are you her assitant? Back off with your judge. I just follow the news and update.

TITANIC 2nd April 2008 05:59 PM

ohh.. bye bye.. i hope this song will be better than touch my body.
sorry i dont like touch my body

dddaiyamondo 2nd April 2008 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by kotora (Post 1399110)
so? are you her assitant? Back off with your judge. I just follow the news and update.

I understand, but I'm just saying that no one should take what she says for full value.... she always changes her mind :D She's unpredictable, that's why I love her!

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International superstar Mariah Carey reaches a once-in-a-lifetime career achievement as her current single "Touch My Body" goes to #1 on the Billboard Hot 100 this week and becomes her 18th career #1 hit -- surpassing one of the most enduring chart records in Billboard Hot 100 history, Elvis Presley's 17 #1's. Mariah is now positioned as the only active recording artist in the 50 years of the Hot 100 (which began in 1958) with the potential to surpass the Beatles' all-time high of 20 #1 hits.

"Touch My Body" takes over #1 with an all-time record-setting 286,000 debut week at #1 on the Billboard hot digital songs chart, and a Hot 100 Airplay radio audience now over 115 million. The video, directed by feature filmmaker Brett Ratner, and featuring a cameo by Jack McBrayer (30 Rock's Kenneth Parcell), stays at #1 on the Yahoo Music Video Chart, Yahoo Launchcast and AOL. And Mariah's widget has been viewed over 4.26 million times!

"Touch My Body" is the first smash from Mariah's highly anticipated hot new album "E=MC2," arriving in stores April 15th. Pre-orders are now underway for "E=MC2," with iTunes customers receiving "Touch My Body" instantly with their pre-order.
Mariah hit #1! And she surpassed Elvis :D Yay.

Cyria 2nd April 2008 08:43 PM

I didn't really love 90s Mariah, but I do think it's great that she's managed to return to the top after her breakdown. She has the voice, she works with the right people, and her new #1 is a big achievement when so many pop artists self-destruct and never get back up after a few years in the business.

Kaiouforever 2nd April 2008 10:44 PM

Does she still have the voice? I wonder if she's restraining it in her new songs, or just doesn't have it anymore. =[ I would like to see her use her voice to its full potential, even though I do like her current style, I want to see her belt it out.

voltron 2nd April 2008 10:48 PM

Watch the videos I posted. She still has it.

And I saw her a few weeks ago...she can belt it out like whoa.

dddaiyamondo 3rd April 2008 03:32 AM

I think she realizes that over singing is very real, and she doesn't to do that to fans (like Christina Aguilera does). Plus, hip-hop right now is all about light and airy voices, not big booming ones like she had back in the 90s. But if you listen to her non-singles tracks, you'll see she's still got the voice!

drewbilation 3rd April 2008 08:22 PM

album previews are out on Amazon now.

dddaiyamondo 4th April 2008 12:36 AM

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Originally Posted by dokidokisuru (Post 1400546)
album previews are out on Amazon now.

This is definitely her most hip-hop album yet. "Touch My Body" is probably the most pop.

Halla 4th April 2008 01:02 AM

the album sounds very promising :D

the songs with B.Cox as the producers sound the best, "I Stay In Love" and especially "For The Record".

Richieooxx 4th April 2008 03:15 AM

I can't wait for this album. :love

Vinylfantasy 4th April 2008 05:33 AM

A couple songs sound interesting but I feel like most of the album is the exact same song. I prefer old school Mariah.

milky_way 4th April 2008 05:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Vinylfantasy (Post 1401101)
I prefer old school Mariah.

Me too. Everything from No. 1's and back was just classic. I miss those days.

dddaiyamondo 4th April 2008 05:55 AM

As a fan of both old school and new school Mariah, I have to say that I too get sad when I think about albums like Butterfly or Daydream and realize she'll never make anything like that again. But I almost think of them as two separate artists... and while I like Mariah better than Mimi, she's still miles ahead of other female pop/R&B artists out there :D

bondingo 4th April 2008 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Vinylfantasy (Post 1401101)
A couple songs sound interesting but I feel like most of the album is the exact same song. I prefer old school Mariah.

I prefer old school Mariah as well. Like milky way said, up until #1's she was gold, but she's gone steadily downhill ever since. She isn't at a level of crap just yet, but rather at extreme mediocrity.

dddaiyamondo 4th April 2008 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by bondingo (Post 1401438)
I prefer old school Mariah as well. Like milky way said, up until #1's she was gold, but she's gone steadily downhill ever since. She isn't at a level of crap just yet, but rather at extreme mediocrity.

I definitely don't find her post #1s career to be a steady decline... actually, I find Rainbow to have been a worse album than Glitter. But then her quality of music took a nosedive with Charmbracelet. And then a huge spike upward to Emancipation, and maybe E=MC2 will only have a slight dip in quality.

And Mariah is so good with keeping up with what is popular and very at-the-moment, so maybe that's why people think she's putting out mediocre stuff... because mediocrity is what is selling these days :D But really, if MC had kept going in the adult-contemporary direction of the days of "old Mariah," her career would've been over by now. That era was very much dead and gone after Butterfly.

bondingo 4th April 2008 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by dddaiyamondo (Post 1401480)
I definitely don't find her post #1s career to be a steady decline... actually, I find Rainbow to have been a worse album than Glitter. But then her quality of music took a nosedive with Charmbracelet. And then a huge spike upward to Emancipation, and maybe E=MC2 will only have a slight dip in quality.

And Mariah is so good with keeping up with what is popular and very at-the-moment, so maybe that's why people think she's putting out mediocre stuff... because mediocrity is what is selling these days :D But really, if MC had kept going in the adult-contemporary direction of the days of "old Mariah," her career would've been over by now. That era was very much dead and gone after Butterfly.

I agree 100% with your second paragraph, but in reference to the first one, I think Rainbow>Glitter>Charmbracelet>Emancipation. I just personally found Emancipation to be selling out, but that's just because I was so used to the old Mariah, not "Mimi". E=MC2 is actually sounding a lot better than I expected now that I've heard the previews on Amazon, but no tracks seem to be amazing.

dddaiyamondo 4th April 2008 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by bondingo (Post 1401505)
I agree 100% with your second paragraph, but in reference to the first one, I think Rainbow>Glitter>Charmbracelet>Emancipation. I just personally found Emancipation to be selling out, but that's just because I was so used to the old Mariah, not "Mimi". E=MC2 is actually sounding a lot better than I expected now that I've heard the previews on Amazon, but no tracks seem to be amazing.

Glitter better than Emancipation? :thud I love Glitter, I think it was better than Rainbow or Charmbracelet, but it did not have the hit-after-hit feel of TEOM. TEOM wasn't what Mariah was used to doing, but it was a strong, powerful, quality contemporary R&B record with hit written all over it, which is honestly a rarity today. Most R&B today is one-hit-wonder drivel.

Rainbow is also one of her worst CDs, IMO. It was SUCHHHHH a huge drop after Butterfly, which was easily her best. Half of Rainbow's tracks sound like used up demos rejected by Destiny's Child. And Charmbracelet, as much as I loved "Boy" and a few others, sounded like something you'd expect Toni Braxton or some other washed-up adult-contemporary R&B singer to make. :no E=MC2 sounds like a half-step backwards to me, but I'm not mad at her. She's taking this hip-hop thing a little too far, but I still find it really enjoyable.

Oh god, y'all don't even wanna get me started on MC :laugh 17 years of fandom right here.

bondingo 4th April 2008 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by dddaiyamondo (Post 1401511)
Glitter better than Emancipation? :thud I love Glitter, I think it was better than Rainbow or Charmbracelet, but it did not have the hit-after-hit feel of TEOM. TEOM wasn't what Mariah was used to doing, but it was a strong, powerful, quality contemporary R&B record with hit written all over it, which is honestly a rarity today. Most R&B today is one-hit-wonder drivel.

Rainbow is also one of her worst CDs, IMO. It was SUCHHHHH a huge drop after Butterfly, which was easily her best. Half of Rainbow's tracks sound like used up demos rejected by Destiny's Child. And Charmbracelet, as much as I loved "Boy" and a few others, sounded like something you'd expect Toni Braxton or some other washed-up adult-contemporary R&B singer to make. :no E=MC2 sounds like a half-step backwards to me, but I'm not mad at her. She's taking this hip-hop thing a little too far, but I still find it really enjoyable.

Oh god, y'all don't even wanna get me started on MC :laugh 17 years of fandom right here.

I definitely agree that Rainbow was a huge drop from Butterfly, which is also my favorite album, but I certainly didn't think it was a poor album. It's actually one of my favorites to be entirely honest. I liked that sort of transitional phase when Mariah began to have R&B influences, but still remained true to her roots (which I believe she did from Butterfly-Charmbracelet). Once she hit Emancipation, I just lost her because that really just is not my type of music, and it certainly isn't what made me a Mariah fan. So that's why I liked it much less than yes, even Glitter (which I don't consider a real album anyways, but that's just my opinion). I guess if you excluded Glitter from my previous post, then my order might seem a little more reasonable. Charmbracelet was actually pretty close to Rainbow in terms of how much I liked it. Rainbow seemed to skip around a bit while Charmbracelet seemed a little more steady to me. But it didn't have as many fantastic songs as Rainbow did.

Anyways, I do think E=MC2 will be better than Emancipation, so at least she's going up slightly in my book. Still, it isn't what I would like her to be doing, but I'll always love the woman at the very least for what she did in her past.

Haha, now you've got me listening to her music again :D

dddaiyamondo 4th April 2008 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by bondingo (Post 1401526)

Haha, now you've got me listening to her music again :D

lol, Whenever a new album comes out I always go back and listen to all of her stuff again. And it always makes me realize that Butterfly is the best. The whole album was very melancholy, and there was only one really upbeat track. "The Roof" and "Breakdown" are genius, especially. Loved the Mobb Deep sample and the Bone Thugz guest appearance. Okay, just for the heck of it...

01. Butterfly
02. Mariah Carey
03. The Emancipation of Mimi
04. Emotions
05. Music Box
06. Glitter
<Merry Christmas :xmas>
07. Daydream
08. Rainbow
09. Charmbracelet

Just out of curiosity, do the people who claim to like "old Mariah" even like stuff from her first two CDs? I find that a lot of people say they liked her better in the 90s, but they can't name a single song before 1993.

bondingo 4th April 2008 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by dddaiyamondo (Post 1401537)
Just out of curiosity, do the people who claim to like "old Mariah" even like stuff from her first two CDs? I find that a lot of people say they liked her better in the 90s, but they can't name a single song before 1993.

Well basically all of Mariah in the 90's was pretty good to me, but some of her songs pre-93 were fantastic. Vision of Love, Emotions (which is forever great for the super high notes toward the end), I Don't Wanna Cry, Love Takes Time, Someday, and I'll Be There are all favorites of mine.

I think when most people say they liked the old Mariah though, they mean anything before Rainbow and #1's. I think Always Be My Baby, Hero, My All, etc. may be what most people like the best, but then again I can't read their minds.

Halla 4th April 2008 02:33 PM

Glitter might not be considered an official original album in her discography, since it's also technically the soundtrack to the infamous movie.

I personally prefer newer mariah. I think EOM is her best album yet, most of her albums clearly have the hits & the fillers whereas EOM has just quality tracks all the way.

I'm really excited for her new album. I'd buy it right away, but I'm probably going to download it & wait to see if there's a deluxe reissue to buy lol

I don't think any of the current vocalists come close to Mariah. I think most people only focus on the belting type of singing ,tho I admit Mariah can't belt anymore like she used to she's still the best. but Mariah also excels in the lowers registers, sounding silky & smooth. and naturally there's her trademark of instantly going from high to low register. not to mention the famous whistle range ...

I've yet to see any of these people hailed as the "new mariah" to pull of anything like this. Leona and etc are good singers but they aren't MC :P

Cyria 4th April 2008 07:29 PM

Vision of Love has been in my top 3 of Mariah songs ever since I first heard it, even as the other two have changed, so I do like some of her very early stuff.

Preferring old/new Mariah: it's pretty much the same for me, except I now like her songs for different reasons. I don't think she's ever had an album I loved the whole way through, but with the 90s stuff and Emancipation there are usually at least a few songs I really like - then the beautiful ballads, now quality R&B.

milky_way 4th April 2008 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by dddaiyamondo (Post 1401537)
Just out of curiosity, do the people who claim to like "old Mariah" even like stuff from her first two CDs? I find that a lot of people say they liked her better in the 90s, but they can't name a single song before 1993.

I loved her first album. I loved all the singles and Prisoner of Love is one of my favorite Mariah songs :heart

Northerner 5th April 2008 06:43 AM

If I had to rank her albums, I'd say...

1. Butterfly
2. Mariah Carey
3. The Emancipation of Mimi
< The Remixes >
4. Daydream
5. Charmbracelet
6. Music Box
7. Glitter
8. Rainbow
9. Emotions

The memories I associate with her music (particularly "Butterfly") are why I still loyally buy her albums even if I don't care for the direction they go in. "Mimi" and this new one appear to signal a return to form, though.

voltron 5th April 2008 10:12 PM

Bye Bye full version:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=_obJPJUWHK0

Mariah always lipsynchs on Euro/Asian TV shows (a long time ago she said that they asked her to...not sure what that's all about), so this is basically the CD track.

dddaiyamondo 5th April 2008 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by voltron (Post 1404161)
Bye Bye full version:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=_obJPJUWHK0

Mariah always lipsynchs on Euro/Asian TV shows (a long time ago she said that they asked her to...not sure what that's all about), so this is basically the CD track.

I never get why she lip-synchs at shows in Europe. But anyway, the song is okay... it sounds really ghetto tho. Like, poorly produced.

Kobayashiwoof 6th April 2008 12:53 PM

The album has leaked!!!! Its at KMC!!, i wont give out links soo yeah find it out yourself

fanmail 6th April 2008 01:31 PM

downloading it now OMG!! <3

bondingo 6th April 2008 02:56 PM

I'm only on the fourth track so far, but already this album kicks Emancipation of Mimi's ass! I especially like Migrate, which is a wonderful opener. I hope it becomes the second single. I'd buy the album, but I have a feeling it will have a rerelease since all the big albums seem to nowadays (and Emancipation did anyways).

dddaiyamondo 6th April 2008 11:59 PM

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Originally Posted by bondingo (Post 1405498)
I'm only on the fourth track so far, but already this album kicks Emancipation of Mimi's ass! I especially like Migrate, which is a wonderful opener. I hope it becomes the second single. I'd buy the album, but I have a feeling it will have a rerelease since all the big albums seem to nowadays (and Emancipation did anyways).

Buy it! :laugh

I love the album already. I think some of the songs will be growers, because they're starting to sound a little bit samey for me. The ones that really stick out to me righ tnow are "Migrate", "Touch My Body", "Cruise Control", "Side Effects", "I'm That Chick", "Bye Bye" and "I'll Be Loving You Long Time." IBLYLT is probably my favorite so far. Loveeeeeee it.

No_Doubt 7th April 2008 02:49 AM

^"I'll Be Loving You Long Time" is by far the top track in my opinion as well. Even though that sample from DeBarge's "Stay with Me" is way overused, there's a reason it's so ubiquitous: it can make virtually any song insanely catchy. A close second for me in terms of favourites is "For the Record", I think that would make a great single choice in addition to any of the songs you mentioned. I definitely agree that some of the production gets repetitive and is very familiar (particularly the JD tracks), but the main draw of Mariah Carey's music has always been her voice, so a satisfying album from her doesn't really rely on cutting edge or adventurous production. That being said, I definitly think this album has slighlty bolder and more varied prouction than the last, so I prefer it a tad over otherwise excellent Emancipation of Mimi.

"Bye Bye" has been confirmed as the second single, by the way. While it wasn't really a stand-out to me, I think the sappy but easily relatable lyrics will make it a radio hit, so I'm definitly not opposed to it's release, especially since "Migrate" is inevitably going to see release down the road eventually, given that she's already performed it.

Kobayashiwoof 7th April 2008 02:56 AM

im still buying this album even though i give it a good generic mark 6/10

Maybe it will grow on me :D

dddaiyamondo 7th April 2008 03:03 AM

I may be going crazy, but I thought I remembered reading somewhere that MC was going to release 5 singles from this album. If that's true, then here's my choices for singles, in order of release:

01. Touch My Body
02. Migrate
03. For The Record
04. I'm That Chick
05. Lovin' You Long Time

I like "For The Record" a LOT too... I remember hearing it on her perfume commercials a while ago and really liking it.

KLJames 7th April 2008 03:08 AM

i listened yday too.. "I Wish You Well" definitely the best... good vocal nice piano..she too good in this.. another best track? "I'm That Chick"! the one and only good dance track inside... "O.O.C." still ok in term of fast tempo song... "Bye Bye" sad song... "I Stay In Love" very her 90s style... mid tempo song a bit r&b...

not really like her new try... "Touch My Body" ok for song not for the mv... "Migrate" are bad for me... plz, i dunwan it be single... "Cruise Control"/"Side Effects" still ok, but really destroy by rap part...

Halla 7th April 2008 12:13 PM

The album is very much "Emancipation of Mimi part 2" , but I'm liking it regardless.

there are plenty of really good tracks. "Cruise control" , "Migrate" , "That Chick" , "I'll be loving u long time" & "For The Record" are the best IMO.

that downside is that there are too many JD-produced tracks, which aren't bad tho, but they really blend together. she should have used some other producers , just few JD tracks would have been enough. Polow & Darkchild could have each make her a track instead :o

but overall it's an excellent album. I can't say if it's really better than mimi tho, I think they're both pretty equal.

I'm pretty sure there's going to be at least 5 singles off the album, if not more. They might release different singles in EU than in US like with mimi.

voltron 7th April 2008 05:41 PM

I love the album.

And I'm addicted to Side Effects. Though it would've been better without Jeezy. When she starts belting out at the ends she sound so in pain. Such a personal track, I'm really surprised!

milky_way 7th April 2008 08:37 PM

I'm trying my best to not listen to the album until it's release. Hopefully I can last 1 more week :D

drewbilation 8th April 2008 07:50 AM

the album turned out better than I was expecting. I'm really enjoying it <3

Cyria 8th April 2008 08:05 AM

I really like the way Mariah's voice sounds, but unfortunately I'm not really feeling the songs. I definitely prefer Emancipation.

Northerner 9th April 2008 01:45 AM

I didn't know if I liked it the first time I listened, but it's grown on me really quickly. I think the melodies on this album are deceptive --- they appear simple at first, but then they get stuck in your head and you realize how well they actually work. "I Stay In Love" and "Love Story" are particularly good examples of this. I'll definitely be buying the CD when it hits the stores.

Also, "For The Record" is startlingly good. If Mariah/her record company doesn't release this as a single, they'll be making a very bad business decision. On the same topic, I don't think "Bye Bye" is an appropriate choice for a second single. It should have been "Migrate" instead at this point to build hype for the album. "Bye Bye" should have been saved for the last single.

dddaiyamondo 9th April 2008 03:57 AM

"Bye Bye" initially sounded like a horrible single choice to me... but I find it really stuck in my head lately. It's got a very satisfying melody. And "For The Record" is my new favorite. As you said, Northerner, it's "startlingly good." I was shocked at how great it is. I don't like "O.O.C" yet but "Cruise Control" has really started to stand out to me. But yeah, "For The Record", "Migrate" and "I'll Be Lovin' U Long Time" are my favorites.

bondingo 9th April 2008 05:29 AM

After listening a little bit more, my favorite songs are Migrate, Touch My Body, I Stay In Love, and Side Effects. I've especially started loving I Stay In Love. It's just so emotional, and the notes she hits by the end are fantastic.

fanmail 9th April 2008 03:41 PM

"For The Record" is HOT!! <3

Kaiouforever 9th April 2008 06:09 PM

My favorite at the moment is "I stay in love" but I haven't listened to the whole album.

LEOyumi 9th April 2008 11:35 PM

My favourite is also I Stay In Love.. Migrate and I'm That Chick are nice songs also!
Overall, this is not the best Mariah album, but it's good anyway.

dddaiyamondo 10th April 2008 01:18 PM

"Touch My Body" is #1 again this week on the Billboard Hot 100. Congrats to Mimi. She has now tied Elvis for the most weeks at #1 by an artist.

Cyria 10th April 2008 01:25 PM

When her album is released next week, she'll kick Leona Lewis off a #1 spot again. I wonder what the first week sales will be - unlike last time there's no doubt that she's still relevant but I'm going to guess that the sales won't be as big as Emancipation's.

Halla 10th April 2008 03:25 PM

^ I'm sure the sales will be good, but I don't see this album outselling Emancipation.

I just don't see EMC hacing as many hit singles as EOM, especially with the single choices so far. I doubt any can match "We Belong Together" + other singles or even the re-issue "Don't Forget About Us" which really prolonged the chart life of the album.

bondingo 10th April 2008 03:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Halla (Post 1412723)
^ I'm sure the sales will be good, but I don't see this album outselling Emancipation.

I just don't see EMC hacing as many hit singles as EOM, especially with the single choices so far. I doubt any can match "We Belong Together" + other singles or even the re-issue "Don't Forget About Us" which really prolonged the chart life of the album.

I agree with you. I definitely don't see Bye Bye becoming as enormous a hit as We Belong Together, or even Don't forget About Us. The lyrics are beautiful, but what does that matter when the melody is so dull? After listening to the album a few times, I've realized that it opens strong, but after Side Effects, just sort of goes downhill into extreme mediocrity. I think that it's definitely worse than Emancipation after reevaluating it :\

Halla 10th April 2008 03:53 PM

I do like EMC over EOM, but just barely. ( and might be just because EMC is still fresh and I've listened EOM so much lol)

but EOM definitely had more variety and single material.

my choice for singles off EMC:

1st Migrate
2nd For The Record
3rd Cruise Control (EU) / Touch My Body (US)

and that's it, I don't really see any other songs working as singles. EMC really needs a re-issue like EOM had. EOM re-issue added a great ballad and few club tracks to the album, and EMC really needs the same treatment. at the moment EMC has too many sameish mid-tempo songs and only a couple really upbeat tracks.

EMC japanese release has two extra tracks tho. the titles "Heat" & "4real4real feat da Brat" suggest to me that they're more upbeat, but I guess we'll see.

henrique 10th April 2008 07:05 PM

Where you guys download the album ?

THanks in advanced

fanmail 10th April 2008 07:09 PM

PMed you :innocent

voltron 10th April 2008 07:34 PM

Quote:

Below, find the chart positions for "Touch My Body" in Billboard magazine issue dated April 19, 2008.

"Touch My Body"
Billboard Hot 100: #1 (Last Week #1)
Billboard Hot 100 Airplay: #2 (Last Week #3)
Billboard Pop 100: #4 (Last Week #1)
Billboard Pop 100 Airplay: #9 (Last Week #9)
Billboard Hot R&B/Hip-Hop Songs: #2 (Last Week #3)
Billboard Hot R&B/Hip-Hop Airplay: #2 (Last Week #3)
Billboard Hot Digital Tracks: #4 (Last Week #1)
Billboard Hot Digital Songs: #4 (Last Week #1)
Billboard Hot Dance Club Play: #7 (Last Week: #16)
Billboard Hot Dance Airplay: #7 (Last Week: #6)
Billboard Hot Adult R&B Airplay: #8 (Last Week #7)
Billboard Rhythmic Top 40: #3 (Last Week #3)
Billboard Top 40 Mainstream: #10 (Last Week #9)
Billboard Hot Videoclip Tracks: #1 (Last Week #1)
Billboard Hot RingMasters: #3 (Last Week #3)

• BDS Airplay: 119,000,000 (Last Week 115,540,000, +3.5 million)
• Digital Downloads: 168,154 (Last Week 285,544, -41%)
Source MariahDaily & Billboard

voltron 10th April 2008 07:36 PM

Fly Like A Bird

For 99cents please support the "Idol Gives Back" cause and download Mariah's performance of "Fly Like A Bird" from last night.

Cyria 10th April 2008 07:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Halla (Post 1412781)
and that's it, I don't really see any other songs working as singles. EMC really needs a re-issue like EOM had. EOM re-issue added a great ballad and few club tracks to the album, and EMC really needs the same treatment. at the moment EMC has too many sameish mid-tempo songs and only a couple really upbeat tracks.

Yeah, that was pretty much my impression on first listen. EOM felt like it had more variety, but on EMC pretty much everything, even Migrate, seemed like part of the same mid-tempo blur. A very nice-sounding blur every now and then, but I definitely prefer EOM.

dddaiyamondo 11th April 2008 12:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by voltron (Post 1413106)
Fly Like A Bird

For 99cents please support the "Idol Gives Back" cause and download Mariah's performance of "Fly Like A Bird" from last night.

This was seriously an amazing performance. Loved it. Even better than her Grammy performance of it.

kiseki89 11th April 2008 06:38 PM

Bye bye sounds good... The album is out on 14th or 15th?
Site writes 15th but I saw in HMV it says 14th

dddaiyamondo 11th April 2008 11:20 PM

^15th

Halla 12th April 2008 08:08 PM

the bonus tracks have leaked.

both are sort of like mid-tempo club tracks, unfortunately neither is anything that special. I was hoping for something better ...

che0173 13th April 2008 12:03 AM

all i can say is that wen i heard the name of this album on the radio last night during work
i full on cracked up laughing...
no offence but imo i reckon E=MC^2 is just a random name...

dddaiyamondo 13th April 2008 12:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by che0173 (Post 1416292)
all i can say is that wen i heard the name of this album on the radio last night during work
i full on cracked up laughing...
no offence but imo i reckon E=MC^2 is just a random name...

Well, if you think about it, Emancipation = Mariah Carey to the second power. That's how I think of it!

Halla 13th April 2008 12:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dddaiyamondo (Post 1416332)
Well, if you think about it, Emancipation = Mariah Carey to the second power. That's how I think of it!

that's what the title means. MSN article with Mariah about the title

Quote:

he explained that the album title meant "'The Emancipation Of Mimi' to the second power", referring to her 2005 album, which she believes she has surpassed.
my favorite quote from the article:
Quote:

Carey laughed at the suggestion that the album title, the formula of Albert Einstein's theory of relativity, suggested an interest in physics.

"Einstein's theory?" she laughed. "Physics? Me ? Hello ! I even failed remedial math. I could not pass seventh grade math even in the lowest class with the worst kids."
Mariah keeps it real :D

bondingo 15th April 2008 08:41 AM

Look at this and LOL:

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c4...Capture1-2.jpg

They are whoring this album majorly. Anyone hear about the Empire State bulding being lit up for the release as well? This album is gonna sell like crazy. I know I'm buying it tomorrow :D

dddaiyamondo 15th April 2008 12:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bondingo (Post 1420252)
Look at this and LOL:
They are whoring this album majorly. Anyone hear about the Empire State bulding being lit up for the release as well? This album is gonna sell like crazy. I know I'm buying it tomorrow :D

Yeah, there is so much promotion. Did anyone else see her on Oprah today? It's on YouTube, as are her commercials for MTV. She's doing that thing with MTV where she's got a commercial at every single break. They're hilarious, especially these two:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eP3Tk9sy2lc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xpxH2kxub1w

JaysenRyan 15th April 2008 03:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dddaiyamondo (Post 1404162)
I never get why she lip-synchs at shows in Europe. But anyway, the song is okay... it sounds really ghetto tho. Like, poorly produced.

most european studios do not have live equipment that is why most europena bands lipsync.

TITANIC 15th April 2008 04:54 PM

does anyone know the chart on global chart?

Cyria 15th April 2008 06:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Halla (Post 1417263)
my favorite quote from the article:


Mariah keeps it real :D

Yes, she's a diva but I get the impression she's honest about what she's good at and what she's not. I feel she's earned it and she doesn't seem nasty or arrogant the way some other celeb divas do. So far I've heard good things about how she treats her fans.

Would a name change to the Official Mariah Thread be good? She's a big star, so there should still be things to talk about even after E=MC2's release.


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