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henrique 8th April 2008 03:26 PM

HMV dont have anymore the 2 special first press edition, that in the second day.....its very strange only this sales...

Lanz16 8th April 2008 03:31 PM

Great!
Ayu got #1 spot! ~ganbatte kudasai!!!~

*Shouting-like chanting*
higher,higher,higher,higher,higher,higher,higher,h igher,higher,higher... >:]

criminal 8th April 2008 03:33 PM

QUESTION: Will Mirrorcle World chart in this week's weekly singles chart with these one-day sales?
And by this week, I mean the week when L'arc~en~Ciel is on top.

apple-pi 8th April 2008 03:37 PM

I like the sales so far ^_^ Hopefully it will stay steady/ go up on second day sales, since it's the day singles are usually released.
Quote:

Originally Posted by hi-cko (Post 1408819)
I almost forgot. Most people already bought the new tour and maybe both Remix-Albums. They already spent a lot of money for Ayu in the past weeks and this could be a reason if the single won't sell that good. I think, even the Hardcore-Ayu-Fans have to think about what they are really gonna buy.

That comment actually made me feel more optimistic XD Like, "The sales are 'normal' right now because the fans have no money, so in 1/2 months it's gonna go BOOM and sell a lot!"
XD
I know it's unlikely, but yeah. :P

Quote:

Originally Posted by *Petit* (Post 1408798)
In addition, the song is rather choppily arranged and IMO one of the most different songs she's ever released along with stuff like FREE&EASY, BOld&Delicious, M (original at the time of release, now rehearsed many times though). It's great people love it!

I never noticed until I read your comment, but MW does remind me of Free&Easy! Cool!

TITANIC 8th April 2008 03:38 PM

^ i think the total weekly sales start for next week.

cttncandy 8th April 2008 04:36 PM

Let's see what happens. If these numbers are steady throughout the week it might actually end up selling better than glitter/fated.

I don't know, I really really thought this would be selling like BLUE BIRD, it just seemed like people were really feeling the song! But it's way too early to say things like this! This is just the first day sales, and I absolutely hate being that kind of a negative person that says the sales are bad when there is only one day as an indicator.. so I will just wait and see :)

tehxiinae 8th April 2008 04:36 PM

this is exciting!!! numbers are really gunna go up too, i think :D

ayu_fan929 8th April 2008 04:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by criminal (Post 1409143)
QUESTION: Will Mirrorcle World chart in this week's weekly singles chart with these one-day sales?
And by this week, I mean the week when L'arc~en~Ciel is on top.

No next week. The single will get the full 7 days. This week's weekly chart is already out.

Catzi 8th April 2008 05:13 PM

#1 ^^

norain 8th April 2008 06:18 PM

I'm hoping it can stay at a constant 20k for at least two more days. That way it can be 60k X 1.75 = 105k

btw, what's the #2 singles sales?

ayu_ready? 8th April 2008 06:25 PM

I think it's low...ugh :(

kirei_ayumi 8th April 2008 06:27 PM

sugoi! ayu at #1!! let's make it for a second week...^_^

ayu_fan929 8th April 2008 06:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by norain (Post 1409424)
btw, what's the #2 singles sales?

1506 x 1.75. But the rest of the new releases will be out tomorrow.

LEOyumi 8th April 2008 07:18 PM

That Ninki thing said Ayu will be #1 and Zard #2 with small difference between them.. Let's wait & see! I'm praying that Ayu would sell a lot this week.. I dunno what to think though, sales are ok

fanmail 8th April 2008 07:23 PM

That's it? :strike

Hopefully it'll increase tomorrow... :headache

Luv ~Venus~ 8th April 2008 07:27 PM

^Well, Ayu already has the lead over ZARD (RIP!)....so hopefully that lead will carry to the top spot weekly.

austin. ♥ 8th April 2008 07:29 PM

Neat sales. :) I just hope the single will only drop by 5k tomorrow and not 10k. :nervous

njanjayrp 8th April 2008 07:41 PM

Me too. Well the sales are ok for now ^^ As long as it stays on chart more than the previous 2 singles. I am pretty sure it will sell more than "talkin' 2 myself". And somehow I have doubts it will sell more than 100 k in the first week, though I guess if tomorrow's drop isn't by half, it does have a chance.

AmyRoseM 8th April 2008 09:00 PM

yay! Go ayu! #1 = I'm happy. :)

Ayumiko 8th April 2008 09:32 PM

I'm glad she got #1 the first day...hopefully it will stay like that for the rest of the week. It would be nice if it can beat t2m sales.

che0173 8th April 2008 10:10 PM

it probably WILL stay at number 1 for a few more days
lets wait for today's sales
*_*

apple-pi 8th April 2008 10:50 PM

What are the chances of it getting 1st place in both weeks (1st and 2nd)?

PINKvanity 8th April 2008 11:19 PM

I think that the sales will be extremely well, especially since lots of people bought multiples of them :)

austin. ♥ 8th April 2008 11:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by apple-pi (Post 1409790)
What are the chances of it getting 1st place in both weeks (1st and 2nd)?

Depends, do you have a list of artists releasing nexxt week?

ayumisrael 8th April 2008 11:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by austin. ♥ (Post 1409848)
Depends, do you have a list of artists releasing nexxt week?

austin, your animated siggy pwns, I love it :yes

Well I think it will be hard for MW to be #1 for 2 weeks but it depends on the drops (which are always nig in ayu's case T_T) but she has good first week sales.

austin. ♥ 8th April 2008 11:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ayumisrael (Post 1409849)
austin, your animated siggy pwns, I love it :yes

Well I think it will be hard for MW to be #1 for 2 weeks but it depends on the drops (which are always nig in ayu's case T_T) but she has good first week sales.

Ah, I forgot about Ayu's abysmal second week sales. :P

Well, here's a list of people I know are releasing next week:

- haru
- Miki Fukuhara
- Satomi Takasugi & Tatuya Ishii
- 12012

Satomi's last single sold 5k FW and 12012's sold 3k. I don't know the other two. So from what I know, no competition. But unfortunatly I reckon there's gonna be some popular band I don't know releasing.

So there's a 2% chance Ayu will get #1 next week. 8D

And thank you, Kuu is so hot.

tourniquet 8th April 2008 11:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by apple-pi (Post 1409790)
What are the chances of it getting 1st place in both weeks (1st and 2nd)?

close to zero? when did she have a #1 spot for two weeks recently?

bluegie 8th April 2008 11:44 PM

If you talk about single, the last one getting two weeks no. 1 was STEP you/is this LOVE?.

Quote:

Originally Posted by polka-dot-jewel (Post 1408861)
Yes, CDJapan's sales contribute to Oricon, but that's only if you live in Japan. (Same with HMV. YesAsia doesn't contribute to sales.)

No. Every cd bought in cdjapan count towards Oricon. I have posted the answer that I emailed cdjapan on the GUILTY sales thread a long time ago:

Quote:

Thank you so much for contacting CDJapan.

Yes, all sales at CDJapan counts towards the oricon charts, because we are one of the retailers they take samples from.

They only look at the quantity sold, and it does not make any difference whether the order is to be sent internationally or within Japan.

Please contact us again if you have any other question.
So again if you wanna contribute for ayu or other artists you like, you can buy cds in cdjapan. :P

austin. ♥ 8th April 2008 11:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tourniquet (Post 1409867)
when did she have a #1 spot for two weeks recently?

Just under 3 years ago. :bchuck Back when she had amazing sales. -Crys-

bluegie 8th April 2008 11:50 PM

Yeahh... can't believe time passes quickly.. I always thought STEP you was like 1 or 2 years ago only...

apple-pi 8th April 2008 11:55 PM

Wha-? 3 years ago??
o_______o

Yeah, doesn't seem very likely o__o
God, this single should be an exception! It's the anniversary, why can't people buy it? :weep

I'm starting to become pessimistic. Meh.

Well, it's good to know about CDJapan though. At least I helped out a bit :(

Milox 9th April 2008 12:08 AM

anyone know/remember BLUE BIRD's first day sales? :O

tourniquet 9th April 2008 12:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Milox (Post 1409907)
anyone know/remember BLUE BIRD's first day sales? :O

at that time there were no daily indexes if I remember correctly. they were introduced with A BEST 2 or something.

Milox 9th April 2008 12:24 AM

Oh, well its doing worse than Glitter/fated, which is really bad considering this one has 4 versions... maybe tomorrow's sales will be as big as today's...?

ayumisrael 9th April 2008 12:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Milox (Post 1409929)
Oh, well its doing worse than Glitter/fated, which is really bad considering this one has 4 versions... maybe tomorrow's sales will be as big as today's...?

glitter/fated was double a-side. Mirrorcle World is just 1 a-side and it's not mainstream (I mean something the japanese like, like a summer single) so MW's doing great at this point.
I don't get the whole 4 versions thingy though, it's just 2 versions and both have CD only and CD+DVD =P. It's not there are 4 different songs lol.

Milox 9th April 2008 12:27 AM

Hmm no it isn't, you're not considering this IS her 10th Anniversary single. It's having waaaaaaaay more promotion than glitter/fated did. And her fans are buying more than 1 copy. Hell even 4 :P

ayumisrael 9th April 2008 12:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Milox (Post 1409936)
Hmm no it isn't, you're not considering this IS her 10th Anniversary single. It's having waaaaaaaay more promotion than glitter/fated did. And her fans are buying more than 1 copy. Hell even 4 :P

But also non-fans like summer themed singles, but only fans care about 10th anniversary stuff XD
It's not like her 10th anniversary should enormously rise the sales.

Milox 9th April 2008 12:33 AM

It should! :P

Anyway, my point is. I don't buy singles, I bought this one (more than one copy because i seriously love the song). It deserves to sell so much more than that, but idk maybe tomorrow's sales won't plummet like usual

ayumisrael 9th April 2008 12:38 AM

Well I don't buy singles as well at all and this one wasn't an exception though I have to admit it's a great one with sexy covers.

I still getting only albums and DVDs (and I don't have money at the moment for those as well).
I just hope MW will keep doing fine as it is.

truehappiness 9th April 2008 12:51 AM

Ayu's last #1 for two weeks was STEP you. And before that it was years before with H in 2002.

Some of you guys are trippin' over nothing. Oh, and I looked on a ton of people's blogs.. and many of them bought four copies of Mirrorcle. O_O

ayumisrael 9th April 2008 01:02 AM

If I would buy singles I won't lie and I'll say I would buy the 4 of them as well, at least 2. :D

milky_way 9th April 2008 01:03 AM

I only bought 1 copy :/

ayumisrael 9th April 2008 01:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by milky_way (Post 1409982)
I only bought 1 copy :/

*hugging milky* thank you! and lucky you! T_T

truehappiness 9th April 2008 01:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ayumisrael (Post 1409980)
If I would buy singles I won't lie and I'll say I would buy the 4 of them as well, at least 2. :D

Hm?

Well, I saw pictures where they had all four XD~

Ayumiko 9th April 2008 01:30 AM

don't know if you guys saw this...on the cdjapan there is a oricon banner on the left side. When you click on it, it will lead to this page:

http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/oricon.html

apple-pi 9th April 2008 01:38 AM

I never buy singles either, and I bought this one... only one copy, 'cause I don't have a lot of money, but I'd totally buy the 2 CD+DVD limited versions if I could. Meh, I guess I shoudn't expect too much of the sales just because it's the Anniversary, but a "miracle" or something would be nice.
I guess just selling more than T2M is an accomplishment. Hopefully she'll come up with something interesting for the summer single, though... something that would sell like Blue Bird. Or at least more the glitter.

I should probably stop posting in this thread until the 2nd day sales come out though, I get a feeling I just keep on saying the same things again and again XD

ayumisrael 9th April 2008 01:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by truehappiness (Post 1410002)
Hm?

Well, I saw pictures where they had all four XD~

oops I wrote it wrong I meant that if I myself would buy singles generally I would be definitely get the 4 versions or at least 2, can't lie about it XD

v3lun420 9th April 2008 01:51 AM

GO AYUMIII...
Happy 10th Anniversary
I only bought 2 versions, from YA. I should bought them from CDJ

bluegie 9th April 2008 02:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by truehappiness (Post 1409968)
Ayu's last #1 for two weeks was STEP you. And before that it was years before with H in 2002.

Some of you guys are trippin' over nothing. Oh, and I looked on a ton of people's blogs.. and many of them bought four copies of Mirrorcle. O_O


Not to mentioned that after H, Voyage topped oricon for three weeks :P.

Well I never buy singles, but this time I buy both deluxe versions. When I preordered it I didn't think about sales, but rather I think about this is the celebration for her 10th anniversary :yes. I guess lots of ayu fans (who don't usually buy singles) share common thought.

Ayumiko 9th April 2008 02:41 AM

I wouldn't of bought all 4 copies if it wasn't 10th anniversary...instead I would of bought 2. I didn't think about the sales when I bought them...I just want to own them!..lol...If ayu continues to release singles like this with multiple versions and 10th anniversary version songs for the rest of this year, I will buy them all...lol

Mitkki 9th April 2008 02:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by truehappiness (Post 1409968)
Ayu's last #1 for two weeks was STEP you. And before that it was years before with H in 2002.

Moments was #1 for 2 weeks as well. '04 release mind you. :)

minkAYuko 9th April 2008 02:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ayumiko (Post 1410011)
don't know if you guys saw this...on the cdjapan there is a oricon banner on the left side. When you click on it, it will lead to this page:

http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/oricon.html

I didn't know! wow nice!! so we count!!!! YAY!... Thanks for the info!

wonder if it's new... never seen it before!... maybe I just wasn't payin attention to the site.

bluegie 9th April 2008 02:47 AM

Ehh Moments was 2 weeks no. 1 as well?? I forgot about it... :P

cttncandy 9th April 2008 02:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ayumiko (Post 1410113)
I wouldn't of bought all 4 copies if it wasn't 10th anniversary...instead I would of bought 2. I didn't think about the sales when I bought them...I just want to own them!..lol...If ayu continues to release singles like this with multiple versions and 10th anniversary version songs for the rest of this year, I will buy them all...lol

I agree, the reason why I bought the four copies was because this is an extra special single and I can't lie they totally got a hold of me when they said the packaging was "luxurious", of course now we know... it really wasn't all that :headache lol

truehappiness 9th April 2008 03:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mitkki (Post 1410116)
Moments was #1 for 2 weeks as well. '04 release mind you. :)

Oh, that's even better~ :D~

Thanks for telling me. :D~

LEOyumi 9th April 2008 03:19 AM

I just bought one version (DVD - Depend on you), and with the shipment cost it was sooo expensive, I couldn't afford buying more than one. D=

leo_nardez 9th April 2008 10:29 AM

I never buy single before, but this time I bought one (DOY version) because the case is limited~
and I also buy 1 vinyl which i can't play, and just to add in to my collection~ LOL

che0173 9th April 2008 10:32 AM

LMFAO a vinyl which u cant play =P
but then again not much ppls has vinyl players...
sooo i'm guessing they released it for the sake of showing it off? =D

Lanz16 9th April 2008 10:36 AM

I bought the supposed TO BE "first press edition" of it.
If I had enough money, I'll buy the CD only with "Depend on you" track.

babamon 9th April 2008 11:04 AM

1 16,180 Mirrorcle World AVT 08/4/8
浜崎あゆみ

2 12,673 羞耻心 PC 08/4/9
羞耻心

3 9,283 翼を広げて/爱は暗暗の中で BG 08/4/9
ZARD

Estimated 2nd day sales= 16,180 x 1.75 = 28,315

Total estimated 2 days sales = 65,686

bluegie 9th April 2008 11:08 AM

phew... I guess the no. 1 streak is safe :D

babamon 9th April 2008 11:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by babamon (Post 1410627)
1 16,180 Mirrorcle World AVT 08/4/8
浜崎あゆみ

2 12,673 羞耻心 PC 08/4/9
羞耻心

3 9,283 翼を広げて/爱は暗暗の中で BG 08/4/9
ZARD

Estimated 2nd day sales= 16,180 x 1.75 = 28,315

Total estimated 2 days sales = 65,686

Yeah. Hope it break 100k first week ^o^

Deneb 9th April 2008 11:10 AM

65k already? it might actually pass 150k lol. good to see it beating ZARD

KarenPang 9th April 2008 11:15 AM

thanks for the news

physical CD sales are declining as each year goes by so it's good to see that ayumi still can sell .

I just hope the sales can be a bit better especially since this's her 10th anniversary in the business

che0173 9th April 2008 11:17 AM

hahas im still hoping for it to reach 300k xD
ummm
why do ppls times the sales by 1.75? =S

bluegie 9th April 2008 11:18 AM

Not all cd stores in Japan submit the numbers everyday. Those cd stores usually give the numbers to oricon at the end of the week. So the index shown in oricon are just an estimate guess of what the total sales should be. Singles will have 1.75 factor, while albums usually have 1.7.

let's say the predicted sales onward could be

Day 3: 6000
Day 4: 4000
Day 5: 3500
Day 6: 4000
Day 7: 4000

So the total index of those 5 days would be 21500, so with the 1.75 factor the sales would be about 37625 copies.. with 65686 copies sold on the first 2 days, the 100K for the first week is a hit or miss.. (Note: I'm just randomly guessing the indexes.. The figures could be better than I expect... OR worse than above..)

But oh well I can't really tell if she'll be no 1 tomorrow. Other artists are having a "2nd day" sales, but she'll be in her "3rd day". 羞耻心 may still have around 10000 - 8000 on the 2nd day, but MW should have less than that..

But either way she should be no. 1 weekly for sure..

KarenPang 9th April 2008 11:25 AM

yup & also the no. reflected on the Oricon site are not really accurate . You have to multiply by 1.7 for albums & 1.75 for singles to get a more accurate & estimated no.

just don't ask where & why 1.7 & 1.75 , I also have no idea on that :O

ayumisrael 9th April 2008 11:35 AM

OH YEAH! ayu is going to keep her #1 single streak :yes
A good gift for the 10th anniversary!

4ever*ayu 9th April 2008 11:36 AM

2nd day sales is as expected, tomorrow will be like 10k - 12k !
and total sales will pass 150k easily..

Mina-Chan 9th April 2008 11:53 AM

Go Ayu to 200,000 Sales ^^

che0173 9th April 2008 11:55 AM

WOW AT THIS RATE SHE'LL REACH 300k EASILY!
cmon 60k in 2 days man!

Lanz16 9th April 2008 12:00 PM

*screams*
Eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!

NO #1 Again!!!
BTW, who is that artist next to Ayu-chan?

njanjayrp 9th April 2008 12:03 PM

LOL! The drop isn't HUGE :D I am amazed, I still don't think it will ever reach 300k (sadly) BUT i'ts safe to say it will surpass 100k in the first week even if the sales drop by half the next day as I guess they won't go below 2 k/day. oh and ZARD is a HUGE threat LMAO!

DestinyWishes 9th April 2008 12:04 PM

I hope it gets really good sales, but so far it looks to have really good sales.

Zemus 9th April 2008 12:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lanz16 (Post 1410709)
BTW, who is that artist next to Ayu-chan?

Shuchishin

Yay, for another to be weekly #1. Good for Ayu! :)

ayumisrael 9th April 2008 12:08 PM

Both of them aren't a threat for ayu is seems :D

Lanz16 9th April 2008 12:08 PM

^ Is the artist popular or a new-comer?

Zemus 9th April 2008 12:13 PM

They are a bit unknown to me. But that is their debut single apparently.
Some info here: http://wiki.theppn.org/Shuchishin

Lanz16 9th April 2008 12:18 PM

^ Thanks for the link.

These days, there are so zany music artist "popping" around the Jpop industry. But some of the become "one-hit wonders", some of them shines through.

EDIT. Ugh... another boy-band. Im sick of those. ]:<

Jwiz 9th April 2008 12:22 PM

I was expecting it to stay at +/- 20k but it didn't =/ Decent sales and Ayu's gonna keep her 1st streak!

AyuGAME 9th April 2008 12:41 PM

i think its really safe, ayu will get number one weekly position...
and the sales looks high, i'm sure it can pass 150k, hopefully it manage to sales 200k even more

TITANIC 9th April 2008 12:52 PM

YUHUII..
MW looks steadier than glitter even t2ms

dayumi 9th April 2008 12:54 PM

It's great so far.... :)

prussian blue 9th April 2008 12:58 PM

yeah... it sales so much!!
i hope it wnt drop

Lanz16 9th April 2008 01:00 PM

Im predicting that MW will reach 150k+/- sold copies in her first week. :)

KaoriNeko 9th April 2008 01:02 PM

Are these good sales? I'm not really good with numbers. lol
x_x

ayumisrael 9th April 2008 01:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KaoriNeko (Post 1410823)
Are these good sales? I'm not really good with numbers. lol
x_x

Yes.

KaoriNeko 9th April 2008 01:10 PM

^OK. Then yaaaaaaaaay ~

MeruChan 9th April 2008 01:10 PM

OMFG! the sales are brilliant!! She's doing so well!!! But I don't think she can surpass 150k for 1st week...i think about 100-120k or so...

bondingo 9th April 2008 01:12 PM

That would be great if she could surpass 150k in sales. Congratulations to her on doing well so far :D

TITANIC 9th April 2008 01:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KaoriNeko (Post 1410823)
Are these good sales? I'm not really good with numbers. lol
x_x

i think it's better than t2ms even glitter.
hope it can sell at least 120K in 1st week

KarenPang 9th April 2008 01:19 PM

yup

Mirrorcle World will be cerifited gold once it shipped 100K onwards

njanjayrp 9th April 2008 01:57 PM

glitter/fated sold 110,165 k in the first week, while "talkin' 2 myself" sold 70,325. Sooo I am hoping it will end up selling better than glitter in the end :D

keikeiaznqueen 9th April 2008 02:04 PM

Yeah. It's just the 2nd day and MW is closing up to T2M's sales in one week. It's selling well. =DDD

no_way_to_say 9th April 2008 02:53 PM

This is actually pretty gd in terms of Ayu's recent singles. Yay!!!

LEOyumi 9th April 2008 03:27 PM

Wow, I thought the sales wouldn't be good.. Today's numbers made me feel a little better lol good! =D

TITANIC 9th April 2008 03:29 PM

even only 1 PV, this single can sell well.this is great.

freedreamer 9th April 2008 03:30 PM

They not bad...ALL THE WAY!!...hope the weekend concerts boost it...
Who wouldnt be impressed with a SHIP in Mirrorcle World...+ she sings it well

njanjayrp 9th April 2008 03:52 PM

I am just glad that her sales aren't going nowhere ^^ and are pretty steady, unlike a few other female artists who barely sell more than 50 k with each new single. I don't think the amount of PVs help that much, as "H " and "A" had no PVs but are still among Ayu's best selling singles.

criminal 9th April 2008 04:04 PM

Comparison of Ayumi's recent singles.

  glitter / talkin' / Mirrorcle
月 ***,*** ***,*** *21,355
火 *23,533 *15,010  *16,180
水 *15,835 **9,987 
木 **7,894 **5,113 
金 **4,380 **2,811 
土 **5,012 **2,877 
日 **5,778 **3,187


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