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bluegie 18th December 2008 03:14 AM

Right. Back then JE wasn't really a threat to ayu UNTIL that point. Who would have thought Kanjani 8 could beat ayu on the first 2 days?! And I think Gorie won ayu as well for the first two days.

I remember people saying that lots of HEAVEN cds went to theatres so that's why it was beaten badly on the first two days, but I kinda doubt it..

SunshineSlayer 18th December 2008 03:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bluegie (Post 1746754)
Right. Back then JE wasn't really a threat to ayu UNTIL that point. Who would have thought Kanjani 8 could beat ayu on the first 2 days?! And I think Gorie won ayu as well for the first two days.

I remember people saying that lots of HEAVEN cds went to theatres so that's why it was beaten badly on the first two days, but I kinda doubt it..

ahh that's right I remember now. Heaven was beaten by both JE and Pecori Night on the first few days and people on here were about to commit suicide. :)

I disagree that JE wasn't a threat then. Kanjani 8 wasn't much of a threat at the time, but SMAP, Kinki and probably a few others would have taken Ayu down.

LacusClyne 18th December 2008 03:32 AM

i already did expect that GREEN will sell more then MW, never this good, now if her 2nd day sell won't have a big flop.....hopfully not, since japanese love ballads and DAYS is just awesome. if all the promotions going on, then GREEN have been on the Lumix cm for a while. everyone seem to be waiting for this single.

ll moments ll 18th December 2008 03:33 AM

fyi, the KANJANI8 single was pushed back due to a member scandal, so i don't think "HEAVEN" was originally going to battle "Sukiyanen, Osaka/Mugendai/Oh!ENKA".

& i wouldn't take JE too lightly. they're the only people around nowadays that can easily pull a 300k+ opening week (KAT-TUN, Arashi, K8, etc.) even if SMAP & KinKi Kids aren't power sellers now, they really were back then.

lovelism 18th December 2008 03:34 AM

ANOTHER number 1 !!!!!!!
YEAH YEAH YEAH!!!!

bluegie 18th December 2008 03:38 AM

Ehh... I think yes for KK, but not for SMAP. SMAP's singles are either hit or miss, with miss being dominant. They aren't constant sellers like KK, so I would not consider SMAP as one of them. And... it's really hard to say who could beat ayu at that moment. She did have constant sales during that point, but it's not like a very huge sales that can certainly getting no. 1 position. If someone (not very popular) has a really really good song and against ayu, I think she would be defeated (e.g., SCS again as an example).

I dun even think avex would dare putting ayu against any JE in nowadays. This applies to B'z and Mr. Children as well, as we have never seen them battling against any JE in recent years.

SolarAngel 18th December 2008 03:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SunshineSlayer (Post 1746766)
ahh that's right I remember now. Heaven was beaten by both JE and Pecori Night on the first few days and people on here were about to commit suicide. :)

I disagree that JE wasn't a threat then. Kanjani 8 wasn't much of a threat at the time, but SMAP, Kinki and probably a few others would have taken Ayu down.

:roflmao
I wish i had joined back then to see the drama! I say the unbeatable single sellers of now would be KATTUN, Arashi, kinki and maybe HSJ?? That's one weird thing of JE groups i don't understand, their singles explode and their albums are kind of eh...

Thanks for the update, this first day sale of ayu's brought an automatic smile to my face. It's fantastic for an ayu single these days. I'm banking on this to break the 200k mark.

alternarist 18th December 2008 03:56 AM

yay!! good news!

DA1SUK1DAY01691 18th December 2008 03:58 AM

For JE, I really think only because they have so much face time all over the place is why they're so popular. Pretty boys that sing and act are a hot commodity, much hotter than before. That used to belong to the girls, haha. Like, you won't see a drama season without at least 2 JE members in a drama.

I think Ayu is safe. I think there's no way something with a first day index of 3.6K can take on 30K.

BluishDays 18th December 2008 04:37 AM

Not bad ^_^ Go Ayu !

kuri♥ayu 18th December 2008 05:11 AM

congrats to ayu!! i really need to hurry up n make some money this week so my purchase can count on this chart!!!!

ahhmon 18th December 2008 06:21 AM

Ayu keep going! I hope the sales will break 200000!

mangoo_x3 18th December 2008 07:41 AM

those japanese girls need ayu's ballads haha! good job ayu!! [=

ALfromHELLSING 18th December 2008 09:03 AM

That's pretty good I think!!
And mine two copies are counted in those sales!! Yay!
Support Ayu!!

Lanz16 18th December 2008 09:22 AM

AMAZIN' SALES!

Its 12k higher than MW!
GANBATTE!!!

norain 18th December 2008 10:00 AM

With today, and maybe's tomorrows sales, what rank would she be at right now?

angelwing886 18th December 2008 10:07 AM

Thanks for the great news

tbb08 18th December 2008 11:12 AM

14048 today, thats ok

Ayumiko 18th December 2008 11:15 AM

35,116 + 14,048 X 1.75 = 86,037

Big second day drop as expected but more than I thought...oh well...selling over 80,000 in just 2 days is very good already.

Sucks for Ai. =(

Meat Pao 18th December 2008 11:17 AM

The sales are still okay... I hope the drop won't be as big tomorrow.

sanzo2011 18th December 2008 11:20 AM

ya ! it's ok for me ! hope it'll sell about 10k per day !.

SURREAL__RAINBOW 18th December 2008 11:33 AM

its alright!

lets hope it keeps selling good :D

Zemus 18th December 2008 12:10 PM

Looks like this #1 will be safe! :)

Quote:

Originally Posted by bluegie (Post 1746704)
Also, probly sounds a bit harsh to Seiko... I certainly hope that ayu will not act like a cute 20s when she is hitting 40s. I dunno if Seiko is still using that cute image rite now or not, but back in a few years ago she really horrified me... :dead2

Are you referring to mini-skirts and pink colored clothes? She does sometimes, especially if she is performing her old songs. And yes, this is concert tours from 2007/2008. But I'd definitely say her image is more mature now than in the past! :P Ayu won't be like that I am sure, because her image from the start has been nothing like Seiko's imo.

Seiko might not sell a lot anymore, but her concerts are definitely still a success. For example she has 17 Xmas Dinner Show concerts this year (from 11/19 - 12/25) and CDL on 12/31.

baoanhnguyen 18th December 2008 12:18 PM

wow,it dropped to 14,048...really hope it stablizes over the weekend

Max_ZZZ 18th December 2008 12:20 PM

the drop is disheartening

but the total is 49 164 right now for two days

for mirrorcle world for THREE days it was 46 867

not to mention that the drop tomorrow i HOOOPE will hover around 10K

so whoot ayu will (maybe?) sell 160+K therefore breaking her BLUE BIRD sales meaning Days is a japanese loved ayu song once more?

v3lun420 18th December 2008 12:23 PM

Not bad for 2nd day... I hope tomorrow's index stay over 10k

ren0210989 18th December 2008 12:29 PM

awsome first day^^

keikeiaznqueen 18th December 2008 01:33 PM

Hopefully this is an 'endurance' single. That it would hover over around 10k for a bit. :D

aqua_crystal 18th December 2008 01:55 PM

Weee!!! Awesome sales for the first day!!! Hope this carries on for the first week at least!!!

MissElin_ 18th December 2008 02:00 PM

Wow it dropped even more then the half of the first sales!

Diana 18th December 2008 02:00 PM

Niice.. as long as she's first :D lol

njanjayrp 18th December 2008 02:15 PM

This is quite sad XD But I guess this has been a regular patter for Ayu's singles lately, so it's ok, hopefully it will stay above 10 tomorrow :)

elepop 18th December 2008 02:34 PM

It's not a surprise that she dropped a lot from the first day. It's usually like that. I think hard-core Ayu fans go buy on the first day and the normal fans or other people go buy it whenever they can. I'm confident that Days/GREEN can sell over 100,000 copies in the first week!

njanjayrp 18th December 2008 03:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by asongforXX (Post 1747483)
It's not a surprise that she dropped a lot from the first day. It's usually like that. I think hard-core Ayu fans go buy on the first day and the normal fans or other people go buy it whenever they can. I'm confident that Days/GREEN can sell over 100,000 copies in the first week!

Prolly even tomorrow :)

freedreamer 18th December 2008 03:12 PM

painful...but i think it will do as well...

Minttulatte 18th December 2008 03:23 PM

I like those sales. It's not too bad. I'm very curious to see how much she sold after one week and does this single get the #1 on weekly charts. <3

hiroshi_ben 18th December 2008 03:36 PM

thats really good sales if u compare it with the oricon ranking for 2008!

lfe. 18th December 2008 03:38 PM

The drop was a lot bigger than I anticipated so I am a bit disappointed, but atleast it was still #1. Hopefully it won't plunge too much on Day 3.

Quote:

Originally Posted by miskiq (Post 1745687)
        Days  Mirrorcle talkin'2  glitter
――――――――――――――――――――
月      ---,--- *21,355 ---,--- ---,---
火      *35,116*16,180 *15,010 *23,533
水      ---,--- **9,332 **9,987 *15,835
木      ---,--- **4,997 **5,113 **7,894
金      ---,--- **4,324 **2,811 **4,380
土      ---,--- *12,772 **2,877 **5,012
日      ---,--- *16,638 **3,187 **5,778
━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━
指数合計 *35,116 *85,598 *38,985 *62,432
オリ枚数  ***,*** 145,576 *70,325 110,165
オリ/指  ***.*** **1.701 **1.804 **1.765

usually singles are multiplied by 1.75

Ayumi Hamasaki - 35,116 (x1.75) = 61,453

I'm a bit confused by this chart since I don't understand Japanese. Does this mean that the first week of sales for Days/GREEN will have only 6 days to be counted?

Qt Mashi 18th December 2008 03:48 PM

2nd day was a HUGE drop, but i also think it will do better than MW!

Meat Pao 18th December 2008 03:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lfebaggins (Post 1747553)
The drop was a lot bigger than I anticipated so I am a bit disappointed, but atleast it was still #1. Hopefully it won't plunge too much on Day 3.



I'm a bit confused by this chart since I don't understand Japanese. Does this mean that the first week of sales for Days/GREEN will have only 6 days to be counted?

Every release will be counted 6 days only for the first week only. After that it's all 7 days. MW was an exception because they wanted to release it on 8th April 2008 which was a Tuesday not Wednesday (:

bluegie 18th December 2008 04:07 PM

Hmmn, so what I didn't wanna see occurs in the end. But it's not too bad. At least it doesn't drop below 12K. My guess is that tomorrow's index will be around 7000, with ~4000 on Fri. Then I think it will be back to at least 5000 - 7000 during Sat and Sun.

Overall Days/GREEN should sell around 120K on the first week (hopefully...). Please remember that MW had 140k on the first week because it had an extra day, plus avex did put so hard during Sat and Sun to win over SCS. So if the single sales is around 110 - 120K in the end, it's not too bad after all.

lfe. 18th December 2008 04:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Meat Pao (Post 1747567)
Every release will be counted 6 days only for the first week only. After that it's all 7 days. MW was an exception because they wanted to release it on 8th April 2008 which was a Tuesday not Wednesday (:

Ah so thas the reason MW had 7 days counted for the first week? Damn that feels like cheating lol. I guess it won't matter anyway since Days/GREEN will sell more than MW in the long run.

bluegie 18th December 2008 04:29 PM

^Because MW was released on the exact 10th anniversary day (Apr 8, 2008), and it happened a day earlier... I guess if this special day is one or two days later instead, MW would definitely be a loser to SCS...

AMANDABYNES 18th December 2008 05:06 PM

So this will probably sell 120-130k this week. That's great considering MW probably wouldn't have sold over 100k had it not been for the extra day and it's super inflated sales.

kirei_ayumi 18th December 2008 05:26 PM

a big drop, but it should do better.
since a lot of people like Days, I wonder if she'd sell more if there was only Days

kirei_ayumi 18th December 2008 05:28 PM

a big drop, but it should do better.
since a lot of people like Days, I wonder if she'd sell more if there was only Days

bluegie 18th December 2008 06:00 PM

I doubt it. Consider people (e.g., me) don't like GREEN pretty much, they just treat GREEN as a B-side. This also applies to people who love GREEN but hate Days.

I rather say... if they have a real GREEN cover instead of the same pink roses ones, I think the sales would be a bit higher at least.

paperitahra 18th December 2008 06:27 PM

I really hope that the sales will go on good. Ayu has really earned it, these songs are amazing.
Good job for so far w/ the sales, but I kinda expected more.. :)

Sironigous 18th December 2008 07:28 PM

Woo. :D

Ayu #1. :D

Sales aren't amazing... but that's ok. :D It's doing better than some of her stuff. Wait for the weekend. :)

njanjayrp 18th December 2008 08:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bluegie (Post 1747572)
Hmmn, so what I didn't wanna see occurs in the end. But it's not too bad. At least it doesn't drop below 12K. My guess is that tomorrow's index will be around 7000, with ~4000 on Fri. Then I think it will be back to at least 5000 - 7000 during Sat and Sun.

Overall Days/GREEN should sell around 120K on the first week (hopefully...). Please remember that MW had 140k on the first week because it had an extra day, plus avex did put so hard during Sat and Sun to win over SCS. So if the single sales is around 110 - 120K in the end, it's not too bad after all.

I thought the same. Even tough it might chart a bit longer but we'll have to see about that :)

apple-pi 18th December 2008 09:02 PM

Oh crap, huge drop... I guess it won't be outselling MW then :(

Emperatriz Ayumi 18th December 2008 09:07 PM

Pretty good for just 2 days! Letīs see later! Thanks for the information!:luv2

ComatoseBunnySnatcher 18th December 2008 09:31 PM

GO DAYZ!

jimex289 18th December 2008 11:34 PM

I'll be happy as long as it comes out on top for the week.

Evolution7/4 19th December 2008 12:02 AM

Something to take into account: overall singles and album sales are lower than they sued to be most likely because of illegal digital downloading. Its not just Ayu herself who sales have dropped, everyone has, and while it may be due to her just sticking with hardcore fans, illegal downloading plays a huge factor, especially with singles.

v3lun420 19th December 2008 12:33 AM

^and singles are also less interested. People are more interested in buying albums than singles.

Evolution7/4 19th December 2008 12:44 AM

Ha anyone noticed how Japan iTunes is odd with this single? Neither versions has Days!!

ll moments ll 19th December 2008 12:52 AM

tbh, 86k after 2 days is pretty good. i'm sure with MSSL and all the other year-end specials the single will get a sales boost. :)

ahhmon 19th December 2008 01:24 AM

Ayu gan ba dde!!

rakeru 19th December 2008 01:28 AM

why is the world did it sell less than half on the second day? where's avex's infamous brainwashing advertisements?

Ayumiko 19th December 2008 01:28 AM

I think days/GREEN will end up selling about 120k first week...which is very good already! That'll be more than talkin' 2 myself in total. I do hope this whole 10th anniversary multiple version thing will end soon...coz I'm curious to see how well ayu sells without it...and plus I don't have to spend so much...lol

lfe. 19th December 2008 03:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by apple-pi (Post 1747840)
Oh crap, huge drop... I guess it won't be outselling MW then :(

The hell it will! Theres going to be a huge boom in sales for the remaining days and it will sell OVER 200K IN THE FIRST WEEK ALONE!
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Nahhh, not likely

But one can dream!

Beauty4123 19th December 2008 03:13 AM

the sales for today aren't so bad. but i hope it'll do better overall for the first week.

AyumiBest 19th December 2008 05:51 AM

aww thats a huge drop. :(
But I think it'll still get no. 1 though. ^^

Kaiouforever 19th December 2008 08:46 AM

Maybe some more lives + weekend sales will pick up ~

Gasuko-chan 19th December 2008 09:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by miskiq (Post 1745687)
        Days  Mirrorcle talkin'2  glitter
――――――――――――――――――――
月      ---,--- *21,355 ---,--- ---,---
火      *35,116*16,180 *15,010 *23,533
水      ---,--- **9,332 **9,987 *15,835
木      ---,--- **4,997 **5,113 **7,894
金      ---,--- **4,324 **2,811 **4,380
土      ---,--- *12,772 **2,877 **5,012
日      ---,--- *16,638 **3,187 **5,778
━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━
指数合計 *35,116 *85,598 *38,985 *62,432
オリ枚数  ***,*** 145,576 *70,325 110,165
オリ/指  ***.*** **1.701 **1.804 **1.765

usually singles are multiplied by 1.75

Ayumi Hamasaki - 35,116 (x1.75) = 61,453


Thank you so much!!!
So Days/GREEN did really good :love
Yay! ^^

SunshineSlayer 19th December 2008 09:34 AM

Yep, knew it was too soon to celebrate. Ayu's sales are much too front loaded these days. (and imagine what they would be without 4 versions to buy.)

bluegie 19th December 2008 09:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SunshineSlayer (Post 1748590)
Yep, knew it was too soon to celebrate. Ayu's sales are much too front loaded these days. (and imagine what they would be without 4 versions to buy.)

It's pretty safe to say Days/GREEN will get weekly no. 1 this time. So far it has been sold around 85K. SCS is currently no. 2 rite now with total sales ~14K. The difference is around 70K, and SCS is already on their second week. So I dun really think ayu will be harmed this time.

You can check the current estimation of the singles sales here:
http://blog.livedoor.jp/ustan777/archives/51439212.html

SunshineSlayer 19th December 2008 09:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bluegie (Post 1748596)
It's pretty safe to say Days/GREEN will get weekly no. 1 this time. So far it has been sold around 85K. SCS is currently no. 2 rite now with total sales ~14K. The difference is around 70K, and SCS is already on their second week. So I dun really think ayu will be harmed this time.

You can check the current estimation of the singles sales here:
http://blog.livedoor.jp/ustan777/archives/51439212.html

Oh yeah, weekly number 1 is a sure thing, but I was hoping to be able to celebrate high sales.

norain 19th December 2008 09:47 AM

maybe it'll be enough for her to gain a position on the 2008 calendar year!!!

=)

bluegie 19th December 2008 09:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SunshineSlayer (Post 1748604)
Oh yeah, weekly number 1 is a sure thing, but I was hoping to be able to celebrate high sales.

Hmmn.. true.. Let's see today's index and if it still can maintain 10K, then we should celebrate :D LOL

SunshineSlayer 19th December 2008 09:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by norain (Post 1748609)
maybe it'll be enough for her to gain a position on the 2008 calendar year!!!

=)

2008 oricon year is over.

bluegie 19th December 2008 11:09 AM

3rd day: No.1 - 7502 ....

Edit:
Total index: 56666
x 1.75 --> 99166 copies

Seems like it will be able to sell over 115K at least in the end.

OT: Ai chan... I feel sad for her... :cry

puddinx 19th December 2008 11:26 AM

Oh, huge drop.... :(
I hope it can boost its sales on weekend, like MW. :D

sanzo2011 19th December 2008 11:27 AM

OMG ! hope her sales'll boost tomorrow ! ~ ^ !

bluegie 19th December 2008 11:34 AM

Actually you guys have to prepare for another attack tomorrow. Oricon will show Friday's index tomorrow and usually Fri is the lowest selling day. My prediction for Days/GREEN Fri index will be 4000 or less.

roanmy 19th December 2008 11:43 AM

Since the oricon year is ending... For how long will we know her daily sales?

njanjayrp 19th December 2008 12:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bluegie (Post 1748688)
3rd day: No.1 - 7502 ....

Edit:
Total index: 56666
x 1.75 --> 99166 copies

Seems like it will be able to sell over 115K at least in the end.

OT: Ai chan... I feel sad for her... :cry

I am hoping the index won't drop below 4 k and there is still four days left, and if it raises a bit during the weekend it could sell a bit more than 115 k in the first week, at least the song seems to be doing really well digitally.

bluegie 19th December 2008 12:23 PM

actually there are only three days left. Oricon weekly chart starts from Tues, and ends on Sunday. (MW is the exception because it was released on Apr 8, and this special day was on Monday).

My prediction for the follow three days will be: ~4000, ~5000, and ~5000..?

KarenPang 19th December 2008 12:26 PM

that's a drastic drop , 3rd day sales wise

the good thing's that she's able to cross 100K over the weekend

bluegie 19th December 2008 12:31 PM

^I think that Japanese blog (Natsu Style) points out really well. Since avex started doing those FC special (e.g., teamayu preorder special), the first day sales (or preorder sales on Tuesday) is always very high, then the second (real release day) is always low. Back then the first and second day indexes are pretty close to each other. I think now avex is kinda similar to JE. First day huge index, then a sharp drop on the second day.

I think this doesn't necessarily apply to other companies tho. At least EMI doesn't have fan club preorder special for hikki, nor Sony handed out special gifts if you preorder Mika's VOICE :P.

v3lun420 19th December 2008 12:41 PM

Awww..... big drop on 3rd day..... I hope tomorrow's index stays over 5000

ayu_ready? 19th December 2008 12:54 PM

^ :yes

I thought it would be steadier & sell better than MW
cause it has bigger promo, 2 PVs
and just a waaay better

what a pity :no

njanjayrp 19th December 2008 12:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bluegie (Post 1748742)
actually there are only three days left. Oricon weekly chart starts from Tues, and ends on Sunday. (MW is the exception because it was released on Apr 8, and this special day was on Monday).

My prediction for the follow three days will be: ~4000, ~5000, and ~5000..?

yeah, meant to say 3 XD Anyways that pattern is quite possible considering everything, and if it does happen it will most likely sell around 120+ k in the first week, which is pretty good. And even the the FC specials weren't there I still think the index wouldn't go below 20 k on the first day. And EMI doesn't have the special offers and Hikki's latest singles didn't really appeal to Japs at least in terms of purchasing the physical releases, though they did really well digitally and it seems that is happening to Ayu as well (at least with Days).

4ever*ayu 19th December 2008 01:10 PM

^ yea, Days sells so well digitally, @Recochoku, it almost take over all categories!!

rakeru 19th December 2008 01:28 PM

this drop is depressing me! i hope it can keep #1 the rest of the week, but if it shrinks any more from here....

AyumiBest 19th December 2008 01:52 PM

oh thats a low number on the 3rd day.
But I never really expected a certain number so I'm not saddened. ^^

MissElin_ 19th December 2008 03:31 PM

Wow it just keeps to dropp and dropp! >.<
But tomorrow its over 100'000! :D

lfe. 19th December 2008 04:17 PM

Shucks this is a disappointing day :(. I blame the failing economy.

99,165 is the new projected first week sales right? How did that number actually go up?

AyUmIXx 19th December 2008 04:30 PM

woah still position one..but a big drop though..
fighting Ayu!!!!!!

Luv ~Venus~ 19th December 2008 04:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lfebaggins (Post 1748891)
Shucks this is a disappointing day :(. I blame the failing economy.

rofl yes lets blame the "failing economy". :yes

@njanjayrp: Umm, wut? Heart Station and Prisoner of Love were both hits in Japan. They both did well digitally and the sales were great as well given when they were released. Besides, how are u going to compare a single that was released a month before an album and a single that was released 2 months after the album which already had a song on it to a single that's of fresh material? =/

lfe. 19th December 2008 05:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Luv ~Venus~ (Post 1748913)
rofl yes lets blame the "failing economy". :yes

Well since people seem to use that excuse for TABOOs lackluster sales I figure we could use the same excuse in this scenario :yes

GRACE 19th December 2008 05:33 PM

^Well, it's not exactly an EXCUSE, I'm sure it plays into SOME people's decisions to buy the single. But I'm sure it's not enough to cause that big a drop sadly ;_;..

jbrat2219 19th December 2008 05:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 4ever*ayu (Post 1748769)
^ yea, Days sells so well digitally, @Recochoku, it almost take over all categories!!

So the single isn't necessarily selling badly, the physical sales are... which makes sense if you think about it lol.

GRACE 19th December 2008 06:36 PM

But weirdly, the song "Days" isn't available for some reason on iTunes Japan. Just GREEN and the 10th anniversary versions...

Kingdom 19th December 2008 07:08 PM

considering that we are living in the age of piracy, any artist that is able to sell over 50,000 for a single earns more than respect in my book.

so stop whining! :yes

njanjayrp 19th December 2008 07:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Luv ~Venus~ (Post 1748913)
rofl yes lets blame the "failing economy". :yes

@njanjayrp: Umm, wut? Heart Station and Prisoner of Love were both hits in Japan. They both did well digitally and the sales were great as well given when they were released. Besides, how are u going to compare a single that was released a month before an album and a single that was released 2 months after the album which already had a song on it to a single that's of fresh material? =/


That's easy, I could name at least 2(B&D/Pride, Cherry Girl/Unmei) singles that were released a few weeks prior to an album which had better physical sales than HEART STATION/Stay gold. I mean come on who would buy a physical single which has no extras and at times not even a DVD when you can get the song online for less money (not to mention the "fan-made" looking covers). PoL might've been a dumb example as it was a recut but some people still think that MW is a recut (I don't tough) and even tough it didn't have a major jdrama to back it up it sold better physicly even tough the song wasn't a big hit like PoL was, simply because it had good bonuses and it didn't look cheap.

And don't worry you won't see a fresh material from Hikki (in Japan) unless there is a new ultra popular drama coming on as she doesn't seem to make music for any other reason the last 2 years, so there will be nothing to compare in a while, I'm afraid :P

Meat Pao 19th December 2008 07:24 PM

I don't get it... why is everybody disappointed with the drop in sales and stuff? It's already doing better than Mirrorcle World and imo that's already good enough.

bluegie 19th December 2008 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by njanjayrp (Post 1749061)
That's easy, I could name at least 2(B&D/Pride, Cherry Girl/Unmei) singles that were released a few weeks prior to an album which had better physical sales than HEART STATION/Stay gold. I mean come on who would buy a physical single which has no extras and at times not even a DVD when you can get the song online for less money (not to mention the "fan-made" looking covers). PoL might've been a dumb example as it was a recut but some people still think that MW is a recut (I don't tough) and even tough it didn't have a major jdrama to back it up it sold better physicly even tough the song wasn't a big hit like PoL was, simply because it had good bonuses and it didn't look cheap.

The examples you've given are not most suitable ones hehe. B&D did have higher first week sales than HS/SG. The thing is back then digital sales were not that huge during 2005. Also, B&D was consider a failure in terms of sales. ~70K (? I forgot the exact sales figure) was a really embarrassing number for ayu in 2005. I wasn't shocked, but I was surprised how suddenly her weekly sales dropped that severely (168K from HEAVEN). Of course now we know that the Japanese didn't like the change (music wise) at all.

ayuayu798 19th December 2008 08:53 PM

Does oricon count digital sales too? I


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