Ayumi Hamasaki Sekai

Ayumi Hamasaki Sekai (http://www.ahsforum.com/forum/index.php)
-   Ayu Music News (http://www.ahsforum.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=2)
-   -   [Charts & Rankings] Ayumi Hamasaki Premium Countdown LIVE 2008-2009 A ORICON STYLE (http://www.ahsforum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=89953)

ayumisrael 22nd May 2009 09:21 AM

Going to watch it today. =D
One of the greatest shows!

Chef+Vanny 22nd May 2009 02:12 PM

usually she have 2nd position
#1 yay!

noidea 22nd May 2009 09:34 PM

It's weird, Japan (and this forum xD) loves all the things I dislike and the other way round, it was her weakest CDL since CDL0405 for me xD, not a bad CDL, not at all, but not on the level of her others xD but thats maybe just because the tracklist, some costumes, the pink theme and all the miming annoyes me, less songs would have been actually good for the concert IMO

But great that its selling good, either way^^

truehappiness 22nd May 2009 09:39 PM

Quote:

the pink theme and all the miming annoyes me, less songs would have been actually good for the concert IMO
The pink theme is something she does like, all the time.

And the miming? Other than the one thing, what miming?

SolarAngel 25th May 2009 11:53 AM

I'll be very pleased if PCDL can sell within 5 figures for the 2nd week.

noidea 25th May 2009 02:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by truehappiness (Post 1952765)
The pink theme is something she does like, all the time.

And the miming? Other than the one thing, what miming?

pink: I'm okay with the pink theme for a few songs, but it annoyed me that all the stage was pink and several costumes were(3 i think)

about the miming, its not proven by her forgetting the lines or something, but i, and some other people, think that around 50% of the concert are lipsynch, because basically in every headmic performance there are no mic-sounds, and you cant perform with a headmic without having micsounds and her mouth movements in some songs are VERY weird(HONEY doesnt even LOOK live)
sure, she sings some songs playback in every concert and im okay with that, but PCDL just was too much IMO, i dont want her to turn in a second britney spears(but shes gotten way better with AT09 it seems, only 2 songs are discussed yet, around this time last year 4 or 5 songs of AT08 were discussed to be playback and it turned out to be around that number if you say t2m and Marionette definitly are synched and (d)lma, decision and mnW could be synched,please dont start a playback discussion here now, im only stating my opinion and im okay if other people think that the stated performances are live, i myself think that decision and mnW were live as well)

truehappiness 25th May 2009 04:25 PM

I just watched my TV version of PCDL and I feel as though ANGEL'S SONG was lipsynched on purpose HAHA. I dunno, like she's making fun of herself or something for the first half.

teamMessAge 25th May 2009 04:41 PM

Honestly on some of those songs, does it SOUND like she's lip-syncing? Lol if she is lip-syncing she needs to record better tracks or get her money back. Not the best live artist out there haha...but still my favorite!

Anyway I'm glad the DVD is selling well.

truehappiness 25th May 2009 05:02 PM

That's the thing. It's sorta weird how the vocals we hear are so NOT AMAZING that.. uh. yeah... people don't usually lipsynch to bad vocal tracks.. usually when that's the case, they're actually singing, hahahahaha.

freedreamer 25th May 2009 05:08 PM

awesome..it really deserved it.

somehow her CDLs are getting more interesting

noidea 25th May 2009 05:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by truehappiness (Post 1956145)
That's the thing. It's sorta weird how the vocals we hear are so NOT AMAZING that.. uh. yeah... people don't usually lipsynch to bad vocal tracks.. usually when that's the case, they're actually singing, hahahahaha.

her tracks to lipsynch on never were really impressive, her AT02 playback of evolution was really bad actually and i think the reason the PCDL songs were even worse is because she probably recorded them AFTER she fell and was out of hospital, there wasnt much time to record them(which probably was the reason to lipsynch) and you cant tell me GREEN sounds bad^^ The songs sound playback because theres no mic-noises, not because they are amazingly good and they look playback because she is not good as lipsynching and her mouth does weird things^^(often it openes too much or not enough to get such a note or its off timing and thats not because the file in general was off, you can even see her mouth being not perfectly on timing in the later tv version and the dvd version)
but seriously, please dont make this into another discussion, id like to stop here, im okay with everybody who thinks she sang live mostly, this is just my opinion and i dont buy it because i think so and i would always think "oh, its playback anyway" when i watch it, thast would suck so much, just like watching A Museum xD

dreamland2.0 25th May 2009 06:00 PM

^Did you watch the live TV version or the DVD? Because the DVD has heavily edited performances, especially GREEN. The live TV version did not sound as good.

Quote:

Originally Posted by truehappiness (Post 1956145)
That's the thing. It's sorta weird how the vocals we hear are so NOT AMAZING that.. uh. yeah... people don't usually lipsynch to bad vocal tracks.. usually when that's the case, they're actually singing, hahahahaha.

exactly what I think.

truehappiness 25th May 2009 06:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by noidea (Post 1956210)
her tracks to lipsynch on never were really impressive, her AT02 playback of evolution was really bad actually and i think the reason the PCDL songs were even worse is because she probably recorded them AFTER she fell and was out of hospital, there wasnt much time to record them(which probably was the reason to lipsynch) and you cant tell me GREEN sounds bad^^ The songs sound playback because theres no mic-noises, not because they are amazingly good and they look playback because she is not good as lipsynching and her mouth does weird things^^(often it openes too much or not enough to get such a note or its off timing and thats not because the file in general was off, you can even see her mouth being not perfectly on timing in the later tv version and the dvd version)
but seriously, please dont make this into another discussion, id like to stop here, im okay with everybody who thinks she sang live mostly, this is just my opinion and i dont buy it because i think so and i would always think "oh, its playback anyway" when i watch it, thast would suck so much, just like watching A Museum xD

Wall of text dodged! Mic noise can be prevented with superior microphone technology.

noidea 25th May 2009 06:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by teddbear55 (Post 1956220)
^Did you watch the live TV version or the DVD? Because the DVD has heavily edited performances, especially GREEN. The live TV version did not sound as good.

i watched both tv versions tons of times and only 5 minutes of the DVD version yet

Quote:

Originally Posted by truehappiness (Post 1956232)
Wall of text dodged! Mic noise can be prevented with superior microphone technology.


now tell me how she can have mic noises in some songs but not in all, it cant be prevented completely, youre post is half right, it can be lessened, but not as much that you dont hear it anymore at all


but could we PLEASE stop arguing, i have my opinion, you have yours and our opinions wont change, even if we discuss about it

njanjayrp 26th May 2009 05:20 PM

it's pointless to argue with noidea when it comes to lip syncing as almost everything is lip synced to him (no offense) :) GREEN sounds the same as in TV ver. However the mouth timing in TV versions isn't a valid argument as it simply could be that it's off sync with the sound - possible reasons: bad TV signal or a mess up during compression.

noidea 26th May 2009 05:31 PM

^ first things first: yes, it IS pointless, when I know something is definitly not live I don't let anyone tell me that it's live, thats why I worte that I don't want to discuss it o.0 but you're wrong with the "almost everything" that only applies to PCDL and A Museum, its between 1/5 and 1/3 in her other concerts

her mouth is still off in the DVD version BTW, just watched it, but it's not that bad in GREEN, GREEN actually looks pretty live on DVD except a few lines, its bad in songs like HONEY or vogue, basically the fast paced ones, and light and instruments were perfectly in synch in the tv version I have, so why should only her mouth be off? xD
and the fact that some songs are nearly unedited means quite much...because they never edit her playbacks much afterwards but always edit her other songs, even if they sounded amazing in TV version already

And it sucks how they use footage of different days AGAIN, they did it in every 2008 concert, right?

truehappiness 26th May 2009 06:34 PM

I got my copy! Woo!

Too bad it didn't count towards Oricon.. -sigh-

What's this wall of text? -swats-

Gkone01 27th May 2009 07:22 AM

2nd week's sales: 7,103
Rank: #3
Total Sales: 50,865

TeddyGrahams 27th May 2009 07:28 AM

Omg I love this PCDL so much!!!

This clip showed how she went through even with her injured hand! D: T_T
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UKl3VeSkVsc

rookies 27th May 2009 07:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gkone01 (Post 1958188)
2nd week's sales: 7,103
Rank: #3
Total Sales: 50,865

Thanks for update. I'm glad it's doing well. ^^

MissElin_ 27th May 2009 09:19 AM

Yeah it does really well. ^^

Ayumiko 27th May 2009 10:07 AM

great sales! wonder if it will top 07-08 cdl sales.

ALfromHELLSING 27th May 2009 10:24 AM

Great sales! I hope it will reach 100k!!:yes
I hope I finally will be able to order it with my NEXT order.

Quote:

Originally Posted by TeddyGrahams (Post 1958191)
Omg I love this PCDL so much!!!

This clip showed how she went through even with her injured hand! D: T_T
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UKl3VeSkVsc

Whoa! That's why Ayu never disappoint! She's an awesome person!:love
ALL for FANS!:) She's definitely one of the most Amazing people on this planet! And I can say it only about few people... (Jade Valerie is among them)

TITANIC 27th May 2009 10:48 AM

Thanks for the update..
hmm it sold less than 10K

Fairily_Spark 27th May 2009 11:45 AM

^ woo, the sales aren't too bad.
Hoping for another 70+K DVD

aura~ 27th May 2009 02:04 PM

good sales I hope it will reahc also what past CDL did ^^

truehappiness 27th May 2009 05:32 PM

Wow.. I wonder if it'll hold up!

Watching the DVD version, it looks like they filmed it like the ARENA TOUR with a ton of HD cameras rather than the standard definition ones they usually use! Awesome.

noidea 28th May 2009 01:38 PM

all her concerts are recorded mostly with HD cameras, many concerts are recorded only with HD cameras, theres nothing special about it, we have HD recordings of many of her countdowns, CDL0506 was filmed completely in HD already, same goes for 0607,0708 and 0809(dont know about 0405) and we have a HD file of cdl0304 as well(but i havent watched it, so i dont know if its HD or a mixture between normal resolution and HD)
they always did that

SolarAngel 28th May 2009 03:29 PM

Wow, huge fall in sales. Somehow, i don't quite see it reaching 80k...

nemesisyume 28th May 2009 03:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TeddyGrahams (Post 1958191)
This clip showed how she went through even with her injured hand! D: T_T
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UKl3VeSkVsc

it looks like it really hurt! :(
poor ayu!

I'm glad she did this countdown even if her hand hurt much!!

truehappiness 28th May 2009 05:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by noidea (Post 1959788)
all her concerts are recorded mostly with HD cameras, many concerts are recorded only with HD cameras, theres nothing special about it, we have HD recordings of many of her countdowns, CDL0506 was filmed completely in HD already, same goes for 0607,0708 and 0809(dont know about 0405) and we have a HD file of cdl0304 as well(but i havent watched it, so i dont know if its HD or a mixture between normal resolution and HD)
they always did that

You can't tell the difference between her CDLs and PCDL?

There's a huge difference in the way things are picked up.. the nuances of the lighting are picked up better in the PCDL/ATs. If not the HD cameras, then something changed just specially for PCDL.

How do you know that they use HD cameras for the CDLs? I don't believe that they usually do that, since they make such a big deal about ~high definition cameras x 43~ when they do it for the ATs.

I think they use a different frame rate or something, so it looks more cinematic as opposed to.. uh.. whatever isn't cinematic, haha.

noidea 28th May 2009 06:02 PM

Its possible that they are recording in higher quality(the colors look better to me as well, especially GREEN/WILL, the colors are amazing!)

I know they use HD cameras because I watched HD files of them

dreamland2.0 28th May 2009 06:04 PM

@truehappiness: I think so too. The picture semmed to be much clearer, and not so 'concert like', if that makes sense. Her ATs are like this too. More like a movie.

jbrat2219 28th May 2009 06:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TeddyGrahams (Post 1958191)
Omg I love this PCDL so much!!!

This clip showed how she went through even with her injured hand! D: T_T
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UKl3VeSkVsc

Awww poor Ayu ;_; I'm glad she's doing better now.

I'm also glad to see the DVD sales are great :D

aura~ 28th May 2009 06:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by truehappiness (Post 1960007)
You can't tell the difference between her CDLs and PCDL?

There's a huge difference in the way things are picked up.. the nuances of the lighting are picked up better in the PCDL/ATs. If not the HD cameras, then something changed just specially for PCDL.

How do you know that they use HD cameras for the CDLs? I don't believe that they usually do that, since they make such a big deal about ~high definition cameras x 43~ when they do it for the ATs.

I think they use a different frame rate or something, so it looks more cinematic as opposed to.. uh.. whatever isn't cinematic, haha.


I also noticed that... not only the quality of the image but also the way they record from diferents angles, the lights were impresive as if it were an AT, i have all CDL DVD's and any of the previous has all this perfection in all details... so many costumes, coreographies, all the changes of stage, the lighs (this was the first I noticed) and finnaly, as truehappines says, the way they edited the concert is so cimatographic, I love how everything is put together!


great CDL and grat DVD ^^ also with the best cover imo

truehappiness 28th May 2009 06:30 PM

Quote:

I know they use HD cameras because I watched HD files of them
Does that make sense? Do you mean the TV recorded ones? I think they use different camera footage for the DVDs usually.

noidea 28th May 2009 06:39 PM

the second tv broadcast of CDL0607 used the DVD version in HD, Im watching No Way to Say from the second broadcast ATM and it has the same angles the DVD has(and the already edited audio), but its 1440x1080 with perfectly sharp image

i think the tv versions use the same cameras, less cameras, yeah, sure, there are some new angles in every dvd, but they use the same cameras because i see the same camera angles sometimes, they are just newly cut

truehappiness 28th May 2009 06:44 PM

I think the cameras are on different settings depending on the show then.

noidea 28th May 2009 06:49 PM

possible

I took a random screencap of nwts from CDL0607 for you to show you that its HD, took it in 1280x720(my comp doesnt show me more xD) and in the playing movie, so quality is not that good, but you can see that its hd and the same angle from the dvd

http://img32.imageshack.us/img32/1589/nwtshd.jpg

dont look at the left of the image, i first wanted to take another one and didnt notice that when i put 2 images over each other xD

truehappiness 28th May 2009 06:53 PM

I never said that the CDLs were never in HD, but the camera settings used were quite different for PCDL, is all.

noidea 28th May 2009 06:55 PM

oh, of course, they were, i think i misunderstood you, i thought you said they didnt use HD cameras before and that they use completely different cameras for the DVD versions, stupid me

SolarAngel 31st May 2009 02:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nemesisyume (Post 1959887)
it looks like it really hurt! :(
poor ayu!

I'm glad she did this countdown even if her hand hurt much!!

Around that time, i was telling a friend how ayu had hurt her hand and might scrap the countdown concert and she was like "impossible. It's ayumi. She will never do something like that" and she's right. I have a feeling ayu will appear in a wheelchair and someone to hold her mike if she had to, she's that dedicated.

Lanz16 31st May 2009 06:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by noidea (Post 1960102)
possible

I took a random screencap of nwts from CDL0607 for you to show you that its HD, took it in 1280x720(my comp doesnt show me more xD) and in the playing movie, so quality is not that good, but you can see that its hd and the same angle from the dvd

http://img32.imageshack.us/img32/1589/nwtshd.jpg

dont look at the left of the image, i first wanted to take another one and didnt notice that when i put 2 images over each other xD

BEAUTIFUL SHOT! <3
The colors just allured my eyes! :inlove

Quote:

Originally Posted by TeddyGrahams (Post 1958191)
Omg I love this PCDL so much!!!

This clip showed how she went through even with her injured hand! D: T_T
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UKl3VeSkVsc

Im so proud of her, she still manages to practice despite of her really bad injury. :(

rakeru 31st May 2009 06:47 PM

when i think of how many artists' albums can't sell as much as PCDL has....

rusuke 2nd June 2009 12:47 PM

Wow! PCDL is #1! So this concert was really amazing, isn't it?

SolarAngel 2nd June 2009 01:17 PM

^It is! I hope it will eventually sell at least as much as CDL07-08.

Gkone01 3rd June 2009 05:29 AM

3rd Week
Position: #5
Week's Sales: 4,465
Total: 55,330

waterballoon 3rd June 2009 05:50 AM

The sales are so much more ~satisfying~ than her music sales! LOL

SolarAngel 3rd June 2009 01:20 PM

Nice, i'll give it until 70k although i'm hoping it will reach 80k. Not so optimistic about that though.

TITANIC 3rd June 2009 03:36 PM

nice...
not drop too much

Gkone01 11th June 2009 05:12 AM

4th Week's Sales
Rank: #4
Sales: 2,563
Total: 57,893

jbrat2219 11th June 2009 09:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by waterballoon (Post 1966987)
The sales are so much more ~satisfying~ than her music sales! LOL

Yeah it seems like fans are more interested in PCDL than NEXT LEVEL... :O

Gosh I still need to get this DVD and AT08 D:

MissElin_ 11th June 2009 09:45 AM

Wow still great sales! ^^

TITANIC 11th June 2009 04:03 PM

Thanks for the update

I will edit 1st page

SolarAngel 14th June 2009 03:47 PM

I really want to support this DVD but my country's not stocking it :grumpy

ALfromHELLSING 15th June 2009 10:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jbrat2219 (Post 1976768)
Yeah it seems like fans are more interested in PCDL than NEXT LEVEL... :O

Gosh I still need to get this DVD and AT08 D:

You're not the only one who need to buy both.:no
I do not want Asian versions (which are cheaper) and cannot afford Japanese versions atm. What a pity...

And sales are pretty good. ~thnx for the numbers

Ayu_Ready 15th June 2009 12:56 PM

Very nice sales for the PCDL !

SolarAngel 15th June 2009 03:16 PM

^Indeed! May her concert sales ever improve.

TITANIC 17th June 2009 04:53 PM

5th week
Position : ??
sales : 1,975

total sales : 59,868

freedreamer 17th June 2009 05:07 PM

doesnt she usually sell about 70+k??

TITANIC 17th June 2009 05:25 PM

^ yepp

Ayu_Ready 18th June 2009 01:36 PM

about 60k in 5 weeks a very great job =D

I hope she will do better than 70k >.<

truehappiness 20th June 2009 06:09 AM

After about 10-12 weeks, she usually hits 70k-80k.

Her only 100k+ DVDs I recall are like DOME TOUR 2001 and A MUSEUM [or at least A MUSEUM got really close].

Next is like maybe COMPLETE LIVE BOX with 70k-80k or so?

keikeiaznqueen 20th June 2009 08:50 AM

Actually AT2006 sold 100,302 copies. A MUSEUM 101,294 copies and Dome Tour 2001 is over 130k.

truehappiness 20th June 2009 09:09 AM

AT06 sold slightly less on Oricon though..

Perhaps AT05 also went above 100k then?

ayumisrael 20th June 2009 10:05 AM

What about the concert tours 2000 DVDs?

SolarAngel 20th June 2009 02:23 PM

I think AT05 sold above 80k. I remember seeing those figures somewhere, wikipedia probably before they were removed. I've never been able to find sales figures for those 2000DVDs but ayu had the no.1 spot for 1st 2000 concert tour DVD along with SURREAL single and Duty album, so sales couldn't have been shabby.

TITANIC 1st July 2009 03:36 AM

5th week
Position : #10
sales : 1,975

6th week
Position : #6
sales : 1,812

Total sales 6 weeks : 61,680

Ayu_Ready 1st July 2009 12:23 PM

a good job sugoi =D

aura~ 1st July 2009 01:55 PM

It even went up some positions!! ^^

Fairily_Spark 1st July 2009 02:00 PM

Week 7
14 **1,423 
Total sales: 63,103

SolarAngel 1st July 2009 03:10 PM

^Thanks for the update! It's well on course for 70k.

TITANIC 1st July 2009 06:25 PM

thanks for the update.. yaiy.. it will sell 70K+

nizpo 2nd July 2009 11:27 AM

i hope it can reach 70k before it goes away :D!

finding the sales of the tours of 2000 is very difficult, but I believe the first concert tour sold over 150k making it her best selling DVD, but i don't remember the sourse and I don't think we should trust it :P

that would make 4 concerts DVDs over 100k (dome,a museum,(miss)understood tour)

SolarAngel 2nd July 2009 03:37 PM

^I seriously doubt it. If that were the case, there would have been more information on it and it was not a good concert, at least IMO. I would never buy it for 6,000yen (although i bought the re-released version which was less than half that price).

TITANIC 8th July 2009 03:55 PM

8th week
Position : #14
sales : 1,276

Total sales of 8 weeks : 64,379

SolarAngel 9th July 2009 02:59 PM

Looking good. Not sure if it can equal CDL07-08 though.

chu-lips 9th July 2009 03:06 PM

look good fter all....

TITANIC 9th July 2009 05:31 PM

^ dont think so

SolarAngel 15th July 2009 01:20 PM

No more updates?

TITANIC 15th July 2009 01:53 PM

^ not yet..
:D

9th week
Position : #21
Sales : 1,097 

Total sales of 9 weeks : 65,476

*1 32,875 *43,939 MJ (ビデオ・グレイテスト・ヒッツ~ヒストリー)
*2 24,832 *83,484 MJ (ナンバーワンズ)
*3 20,541 *29,733 MJ (ライヴ・イン・ブカレスト)
*4 13,251 *14,341 MJ (ヒストリー・オン・フィルム VOLUME Ⅱ)
*5 *6,442 **6,442 HAN-KUN
*6 *6,325 **7,880 MJ
*7 *3,890 **3,890 及川光博
*8 *3,441 **3,441 ℃-ute
*9 *3,159 369,975 嵐
10 *2,984 **2,984 ハナレグミ
11 *2,831 **3,450 MJ (ザ・ワン)
how interested, jacko dominated 6 from 11 position in DVD chart

truehappiness 15th July 2009 07:34 PM

I think it'll probably hit 70k or so before falling out.. maybe people wanna get it with Sunrise?

sailorseraphim 19th July 2009 05:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rody! (Post 1939835)
:o! OH NO!!!!! I think this broke her #2-streak in the DVD-charts!!!

^ and thats a bad thing???

TITANIC 4th August 2009 11:31 AM

23 21 ***,828 *66,304 10 ayumi hamasaki PREMIUM COUNTDOWN LIVE 2008-2009 A 浜崎あゆみ  09/5/13

27 23 ***,714 *67,018 11 ayumi hamasaki PREMIUM COUNTDOWN LIVE 2008-2009 A 浜崎あゆみ  09/5/13

TITANIC 5th August 2009 09:25 AM

is there anyone know how long CDL 07-08 charting?

ayumisrael 5th August 2009 10:40 AM

Thank you for the info riozz. ^__^
(I don't know how much 07-08 charted)

I'm glad that the PCDL is selling well!

TITANIC 12th August 2009 07:32 AM

^ thats Ok

28 27 ***,678 *67,696 12 ayumi hamasaki PREMIUM COUNTDOWN LIVE 2008-2009 A 浜崎あゆみ  09/5/13

Crystal_Ageha 19th August 2009 07:48 PM

Aww... This isn't selling badly, by any means, but I wanted this to do extremely well!! This is my favourite concert from her in a long time, and I think it's definitely her best countdown! :( Oh well...

ayumisrael 20th August 2009 07:43 PM

#21 - ***,768 *69,120

Went up to 21. =D
If it will chart 2 more weeks it will reach 70,000!

TITANIC 21st August 2009 02:20 AM

hmm.. probably AT 08 will pass 70K....

TITANIC 31st August 2009 03:00 AM

end of AT 2008 in top 30 but it still charting and keep selling, we just dont know about the number of sales because jbbs only post top 30 weekly album


All times are GMT +1. The time now is 03:05 PM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.