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freedreamer 9th April 2010 09:41 AM

Well..if NEXT LEVEL was high because of Days..then...LOL!

gothicayu 9th April 2010 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by PaPaRatZi (Post 2312550)

ninki is just a survey.. so i think it generally shows who debuts in the top 5 but it doesnt really do it accurately.. theres a high variance :D

exactly thats why whatever nikki say is never accurate . i strop looking at the nikki prediction since every time the number are either too low or too high .

SunshineSlayer 9th April 2010 09:50 AM

She'll get number 1, I don't think there is any doubt about that. What I am more interested in is the actual sales. That Ninki is not good compared to her past ones. But sometimes Ninki is just crap though.

AyuWorld 9th April 2010 09:57 AM

didnt know about NL ninki index :shakehead

oh well,it's great for RnRC,hoping for a great number of sale,i believe in this album :yes

truehappiness 9th April 2010 10:14 AM

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That Ninki is not good compared to her past ones.
I'm actually very surprised at how low Secret and (m)u were, haha.

rainydayumi 9th April 2010 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by riozz (Post 2312652)
Hope for very big front load

yes me too, i want a massive load

njanjayrp 9th April 2010 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by SunshineSlayer (Post 2312676)
She'll get number 1, I don't think there is any doubt about that. What I am more interested in is the actual sales. That Ninki is not good compared to her past ones. But sometimes Ninki is just crap though.

Yeah, considering the biggest competition is UVERworld which has never sold more than 200k copies of an album and that AKB's sales are dropping like mad, we have nothing to fear.

I am hoping she'll at least be able to clear 200k in the first week. Considering that NEXT LEVEL only had a slight drop from GUILTY's real first week (should be around 30k) I say she has good chances. If that happens the album will have good chances of getting close to NL numbers.

aloopy 9th April 2010 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by truehappiness (Post 2312716)
I'm actually very surprised at how low Secret and (m)u were, haha.

Didn't they only poll 300 people at first? But it has been changed to 400-500 now. Dunno if it's true lol I just remember reading something like that some time ago
Maybe that explains why (m)u and Secret had low ninkis compared to NL

truehappiness 9th April 2010 12:09 PM

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Didn't they only poll 300 people at first? But it has been changed to 400-500 now. Dunno if it's true lol I just remember reading something like that some time ago
Maybe that explains why (m)u and Secret had low ninkis compared to NL
It's always been 400ish, I think. I remember always seeing a :
"400 people were polled for this ranking." sort of thing on the bottom of early NINKIs...

Aditmi Krisnasaki ~II~ 9th April 2010 12:42 PM

wow.. o.O
NL is higher than RnRC???

But I hope the physical sales do better.... :D

It reallly deserves it... :D

ayumisrael 9th April 2010 12:45 PM

NL was also higher than Secret and GUILTY and they sold more.

NINKI just doesn't show much. =P

brener 9th April 2010 03:14 PM

hopping for more...

SunshineSlayer 9th April 2010 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by truehappiness (Post 2312817)
It's always been 400ish, I think. I remember always seeing a :
"400 people were polled for this ranking." sort of thing on the bottom of early NINKIs...

I seem to remember the same thing as aloopy - that a couple of years ago the number was raised. I can't remember where I read that from, but it would certainly make sense.

Beauty4123 9th April 2010 07:41 PM

ayu will definately get #1. no one needs to worry about that :P the NINKI is good, though!

ストロボ・EdGE 9th April 2010 08:01 PM

So that means that out of 400 people, ~229 showed interest in buying it?

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Originally Posted by waterballoon (Post 2312533)
I think the people who said, "YES! I wanna buy talkin' 2 myself single from Ayu!!!" are trolls.

:P

:laugh Ninki Trolls!! Or maybe Koda Kumi fans [everyone take that lightly]!!

primavera♥ 9th April 2010 08:06 PM

^ is that how this works? . . .and lol

i would hope it sells more. album sales just seem to decrease in general for some artists i think though. even everyone thought its better than NL. anyway i would hope for more than this haha . . the past predictions are a bit. . .strange.

bluegie 9th April 2010 08:29 PM

The NINKI is not very high this time, but still it can't really reflect how the actual sales will be. :P

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Originally Posted by truehappiness (Post 2312481)
First weeks for Ayu:
RAINBOW - 1,016,000 (2 weeks total?)

That's only first week sales. On the second week (and third week combined?), RAINBOW beat KinKi Kids' F album (ending their album streak :P) and topped the chart again :).

adantatu2 9th April 2010 08:29 PM

She is #1 of course, but i hope better sales!!!!!
And UVERworld is great too

Ayu_Ready 9th April 2010 08:44 PM

NINKI is not very precise ^^'

truehappiness 9th April 2010 08:51 PM

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So that means that out of 400 people, ~229 showed interest in buying it?
No.

I don't know what they use, but they tend to say "400 people were polled" but sometimes numbers can climb into the high 500s if it's Arashi or something. I really don't know HOW / WHY that hapens, but I guess it'd be better to say that these NINKI numbers are a sort of index that comes from some other figure. Like if there's a high percentage of old people, their "yay I will buy it" counts as more... or something, haha.

The way they do it (I think) is that they have 80 people in each age group (teens, 20s, 30s, 40s, 50s,) and there are 40 males and 40 females in each group. If Ayu isn't such a big hit with most of the people, you can't really expect her to get a high ranking. It just depends on who is polled and what their preferences are, I suppose, unless it's an artist that EVERYONE loves like Arashi or Mr. Children...

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Originally Posted by SunshineSlayer (Post 2313005)
I seem to remember the same thing as aloopy - that a couple of years ago the number was raised. I can't remember where I read that from, but it would certainly make sense.

http://www.oricon.co.jp/news/ranking/7031/

At the bottom, there's something that reads:
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※NINKI度調査は、オリコン・モニターリサーチ会員(約4万人)からランダムサンプリングした400人 の回答者による「興味・関心度」「購入意向度」等のアンケート結果を指数化したもの。回答者は10代から5 0代の各世代男女各50人ずつ。
アンケート調査期間12月9日~12月12日。
And this is in (miss)understood's era. Cheers.


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