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Picaflor 7/4 7th June 2010 04:00 AM

all her best songs are copied. shake it, physical thing, bounce, this is not a love song, moon crying. i mean jeeze. although i will admit i always end up liking her versions a tad more than the original.

hpg23 7th June 2010 04:06 AM

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Originally Posted by identity (Post 2381879)
^ I think it's that before it came out, by the title of it people thought it would be the Lady GaGa demo, but it sounds like this and I only heard Kumi's version once or twice but I don't remember it sounding like that.

Thanks for clearing that up for me. Kuu's is totally different, I'll edit my post.

JackieRos 7th June 2010 02:00 PM

dang bring namie here too?
you guys are priceless


anyways that's pretty cool and good find
I'mma look if I have that ringtone too :laugh

catcher_inthelight 8th June 2010 06:08 AM

Well I still love Kuu regardless of how much she has covered! I'm not gonna lie! When I become famous I'm gonna cover the shizzil outta some j-pop songs! lol! ^_^*

Nackar_91 8th June 2010 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Picaflor 7/4 (Post 2381880)
all her best songs are copied. shake it, physical thing, bounce, this is not a love song, moon crying. i mean jeeze. although i will admit i always end up liking her versions a tad more than the original.

Technically, Physical Thing is NOT a cover. The British songwriter Nosheen wrote it, then sold the song to Kuu. She never released it herself.

Aditmi Krisnasaki ~II~ 8th June 2010 02:22 PM

o.O

OMG...

that's exactly the same tune...

oh yeah, I think Kuu sampled the Blacberry one~~ :D

Corvina 8th June 2010 07:57 PM

That's a cool find. :laugh

Kuu has a bunch of cover songs and some she shares with other artists, but it's pretty common for western songwriters to sell their songs to asian artists and companies, sometimes even in both worlds (in the western and Asia, that's what happens to Can We Go Back, which isn't a cover, it was sold to Kelly Clarkson and Kuu).
And what's the difference between having japanese songwriters or western? The only difference is that songs are maybe written for that specific artist, but you can't always say if thats the case.
And by the way, Kuu composed a few songs, Milk Tea and the Introduction for Kingdom for example are composed and written by her. And well...an artist really should just do what he or she is able to. :laugh
I love my Kumi Kuu, even if all of her songs would have been cover songs. She always gives her touch to the songs (own lyrics, rearranging and such) anyway.

Nackar_91 8th June 2010 10:10 PM

^ So true. Besides, plenty of artists release songs that were actually written for a different artist. It happens all over the world.

I'm not saying I'm HAPPY that Kuu doesn't have a lot of original material, I'm just saying it's not like she's worse than most ^^

Cherry Dynamite 10th June 2010 01:59 PM

I don't really care if it's covered, sampled, bought as long as I like the way it sounds. I don't really bother to search for infos. If like it, I like it and basically that's it.

Twinkle ! 10th June 2010 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Cherry Dynamite (Post 2385181)
I don't really care if it's covered, sampled, bought as long as I like the way it sounds. I don't really bother to search for infos. If like it, I like it and basically that's it.


ME:luv2LOVE:luv2YOU

NintendoHTF1242 11th June 2010 12:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Cherry Dynamite (Post 2385181)
I don't really care if it's covered, sampled, bought as long as I like the way it sounds. I don't really bother to search for infos. If like it, I like it and basically that's it.

I kno rite? JUST THE WAY YOU ARE is super amazing so IDGAF if it sampled something <3 Same for This is not a love song being a ~cover~

happiholic★ 15th June 2010 06:43 AM

I don't get why people keep bringing up this whole Kuu/covers thing. Honestly, 90% of singers get other people to do everything for them, and the only part they contribute is their vocals. I mean, since most singers get someone else to compose/arrange/produce what, difference does it make if two singers sing it? It doesn't make the original singer anymore involved in the process. And so what if Kuu doesn't write all her own lyrics? That doesn't mean she doesn't work as hard. She's also known for including lots of dance into both her music videos and tours, which takes time away from writing songs that singers who don't dance have. And even with covers/samples and the like, unless you sing over the original track, there is still a lot of creative effort put into making it sound unique and different from the original song./rant, lol :P

jpopfan 17th June 2010 08:52 AM

I think its hard to say that its all Kumi or any artist who is just covering songs. I know songs like Cherry Girl and More where bought from the original composers of the songs. There are teams behind albums, songs, etc on deciding what is going to happen. She can be handed something from someone and told to perform it or given the song sample and decided to make it her own because she liked it.

Kingdom 17th June 2010 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Love Shine (Post 2390477)
I don't get why people keep bringing up this whole Kuu/covers thing. Honestly, 90% of singers get other people to do everything for them, and the only part they contribute is their vocals. I mean, since most singers get someone else to compose/arrange/produce what, difference does it make if two singers sing it? It doesn't make the original singer anymore involved in the process. And so what if Kuu doesn't write all her own lyrics? That doesn't mean she doesn't work as hard. She's also known for including lots of dance into both her music videos and tours, which takes time away from writing songs that singers who don't dance have. And even with covers/samples and the like, unless you sing over the original track, there is still a lot of creative effort put into making it sound unique and different from the original song./rant, lol :P

this. Not even Ayu composes all of her own songs/music, people just want to rag and ******. :P

Crystal_Ageha 17th June 2010 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by jpopfan (Post 2392835)
I think its hard to say that its all Kumi or any artist who is just covering songs. I know songs like Cherry Girl and More where bought from the original composers of the songs. There are teams behind albums, songs, etc on deciding what is going to happen. She can be handed something from someone and told to perform it or given the song sample and decided to make it her own because she liked it.

Of course it's not all Kumi!....It's just easier to use her name, rather than ____ team, or some such, hahah. D: And for Kumi, I honestly think she probably doesn't personally pick a lot of the things out, whether that's for better or for worse.

Aisha_Angel 17th June 2010 08:35 PM

I heard that song on an older woman's (60-70 yrs old) blackberry phone two weeks ago...I was compelled to ask her if she was a Kuu-fan, but didn't. I'm glad I hesitated...she would've thought I'd gone mad.

omgpeachsnapple 17th June 2010 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by ero-kakkoii (Post 2392864)
this. Not even Ayu composes all of her own songs/music, people just want to rag and ******. :P

Pretty much. It's so annoying. :irked

Nackar_91 17th June 2010 09:33 PM

There's a different though between people *****ing and people that just want to discuss it. I don't see the problem in the second : P

Crystal_Ageha 17th June 2010 11:30 PM

^ Ex-****ing-actly. :shakehead I've been labeled as a troll by all the Kuu-stans on this forum because I've taken part in discussions relating to the fact that Kumi Koda is imperfect, such as this one. People are allowed to discuss negative things, and they're even allowed to discuss their disapproval for such things, seriously.

Kingdom 17th June 2010 11:33 PM

I am all good with discussion naskar, but when people post false information to try and look kuu bad it's kinda dumb. at least post the truth.

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Originally Posted by Crystal_Ageha (Post 2393459)
^ Ex-****ing-actly. :shakehead I've been labeled as a troll by all the Kuu-stans on this forum because I've taken part in discussions relating to the fact that Kumi Koda is imperfect, such as this one. People are allowed to discuss negative things, and they're even allowed to discuss their disapproval for such things, seriously.

oh dear, are you okay? :laugh


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