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elvis810 4th January 2012 07:44 AM

i do think music are getting flat except electronic music...i find music in the 90s or late 80s much better, i'm old lol....

Aditmi Krisnasaki ~II~ 8th January 2012 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by elvis810 (Post 2798730)
i do think music are getting flat except electronic music...i find music in the 90s or late 80s much better, i'm old lol....

yes... the best songs are in 90s (mariah carey took the lead) ;)

Minttulatte 8th January 2012 08:46 PM

I used to feel that music is flat when I became a Japanese music freak in 2004. I couldn't stand any English music during that time. 3-4 years later I discovered many singers that really do awesome music. Right now I don't see music that flat, but it does sound pretty much the same electronic pop everywhere. Personally I like that because it makes me wanna dance XD

I have also noticed that when I listen to Japanese music these days, there's many songs that I just can't listen. I also think that J-pop was its best quality somewhere between 2002-2007. After that it has gone downhill more or less and thus I've started listening to K-pop more. These days I've felt that I'm starting to like less Asian music as a whole and love more English music. It's odd. :D

elvis810 9th January 2012 04:30 AM

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Originally Posted by drdolce (Post 2800433)
I have also noticed that when I listen to Japanese music these days, there's many songs that I just can't listen. I also think that J-pop was its best quality somewhere between 2002-2007. After that it has gone downhill more or less and thus I've started listening to K-pop more. These days I've felt that I'm starting to like less Asian music as a whole and love more English music. It's odd. :D

Completely agreed.

xLitax 9th January 2012 04:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Aditmi Krisnasaki ~II~ (Post 2800364)
yes... the best songs are in 90s (mariah carey took the lead) ;)

:luv2:luv2:luv2

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dreamland2.0 9th January 2012 06:21 AM

No :shrug

If I need new music I just check out other artists. And artists release music pretty constantly in Asia so I'm never bored. Also I don't tire of music as much as other people do.

emi♡ 9th January 2012 06:51 AM

yeah, idk.

Most other people I've heard from say that music today sucks...but idk. 2011 was a pretty great musical year for me.

Lots of new people on the scene, some people coming back, listening more to american music...and even with all the rehashing going on, there's a lot of things that are new and fresh to me, so...meh. I'm not bored, and I don't think it's getting flat...but I do think we're in some sort of transitional period...

mistagrimm 10th January 2012 01:34 PM

This mostly pertains to American music, but probably can be extended to other country’s music.

Pop music will always be pop music. Today’s pop music all tend to sound the same or flat pertaining to this time period. It is different today though because music gets around really fast opposed to the early days where radio, and actually buying vinyl records were the only forms of listening to new music. Today, you have all sorts of mediums to put your music on therefore music getting played over and over at a faster rate. This has the artist producing more songs to stay on top of the charts; most songs sounding similar, borrowing other artist’s formulas, or even doing a cover of older, popular songs. This is how I see it, and this is partly why I think a lot of pre-2000 music has more quality in its production. Take for instance Michael Jackson’s “Off The Wall” and “Thriller” albums or even Lauryn Hill’s “Miseducation of Lauryn Hill” album. Those are great albums and to this day, all of their songs are still played on the radio.

There are plenty of great artists out there from ALL genres, not just the pop category. Electronic, hip-hop, indie, trance, etc. It’s just a matter of discovering those artists that don’t get the hype or playtime on the radio. I mean I listen to just about EVERYTHING that isn’t on the radio because I think the quality isn’t there like it used to. I seek out artists that don’t get the hype because they are not obligated to rush out tracks.

I’ll always love the music I grew up listening to from James Brown to Ayumi(circa—2000), but just because today’s pop music quality has gone down doesn’t mean there aren’t other great artist/music out there. It just takes a bit of time to discover them by pulling yourself away from what you are used to hearing. Just my honest and humble opinion. :D Cheers!

PoetGirl 10th January 2012 09:11 PM

I dont focus on one genre nor popular music. I try to listen to everything and keep my track on little parts of the world and their new releases. So I dont have time to 'be tired' of certain album or artist cause I always listen to something else.

CaseNumber:825 10th January 2012 11:42 PM

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Originally Posted by drdolce (Post 2800433)
I have also noticed that when I listen to Japanese music these days, there's many songs that I just can't listen. I also think that J-pop was its best quality somewhere between 2002-2007. After that it has gone downhill more or less and thus I've started listening to K-pop more. These days I've felt that I'm starting to like less Asian music as a whole and love more English music. It's odd. :D

Completely agreed.

I don't find myself getting bored of K-pop as much as J-pop. I find myself listening to the same J-pop artists I've always listened to since becoming interested in the J-pop scene (so, Ayumi, Koda, Utada, Namie)
I haven't gotten excited or really into any new Japanese artists.

I'm still enjoying K-pop as a whole (well, except for boybands... I hate K-pop/J-pop boybands) and, like you, I'm really getting back into English and American music.

isthisLOL? 11th January 2012 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Aditmi Krisnasaki ~II~ (Post 2800364)
yes... the best songs are in 90s (mariah carey took the lead) ;)

Mariah has great vocals but her music is the definition of generic and flat. She has released a hundred ballads with the same lyrical AND musical themes, all her ballads(and ballads ARE what she is known for) have the same structure and generic instrumental.

xLitax 11th January 2012 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by isthisLOL? (Post 2801380)
Mariah has great vocals but her music is the definition of generic and flat. She has released a hundred ballads with the same lyrical AND musical themes, all her ballads(and ballads ARE what she is known for) have the same structure and generic instrumental.

In your opinion. Her ballads don't all sound the same, even if they do have the same themes. She is known for ballads, because she has amazing vocal which allowed her to sing "a hundred" ballads.

Nu-NRG 11th January 2012 10:35 PM

Honestly music start going down hill when hip hop is infuse with techno/dance instruments/beats..I'm a trance fan but there is has to be a borderline between genre regardless but time has change. I remember back when I was in the 7th grade..hip hop was great but now..it got old real quick.

Piccolo 11th January 2012 10:49 PM

If music is getting flat for you, you're not looking hard enough.

My Rainbow 12th January 2012 02:42 AM

well, music quality nowadays is very very bad... just check MTV and the MTV VMA from the past (prior 2004-5):

Before: Madonna, Cindy Lauper, Whitney Houston, Mariah Carey, Bon Jovi, Guns N Roses, Prince, Michael Jackson, Cher, Kiss, Nirvana, Elton John, Tina Turner, Alanis Morissette, Anastasia, Toni Braxton, Rolling Stones, Sting, U2, Oasis, Christina Aguilera, Britney Spears (before 2005 she was good), etc...

Now: Rihanna, Miley Cyrus, Jonas Brothers, Ke$ha, Lady Gaga, David Guetta, Pitbull, Katy Perry, Chris Brown, Akon, Rebecca Black...

compare, It makes me wanna kill myself...

xLitax 12th January 2012 03:26 AM

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Originally Posted by My Rainbow (Post 2801543)
well, music quality nowadays is very very bad... just check MTV and the MTV VMA from the past (prior 2004-5):

Before: Madonna, Cindy Lauper, Whitney Houston, Mariah Carey, Bon Jovi, Guns N Roses, Prince, Michael Jackson, Cher, Kiss, Nirvana, Elton John, Tina Turner, Alanis Morissette, Anastasia, Toni Braxton, Rolling Stones, Sting, U2, Oasis, Christina Aguilera, Britney Spears (before 2005 she was good), etc...

Now: Rihanna, Miley Cyrus, Jonas Brothers, Ke$ha, Lady Gaga, David Guetta, Pitbull, Katy Perry, Chris Brown, Akon, Rebecca Black...

compare, It makes me wanna kill myself...

... When you put it that way... me too. :laugh

koumori 12th January 2012 09:23 AM

Are you serious? Before all these, we had Westlife, B*Witched, Steps, S Club 7, The Cheeky Girls, Nsync...there's cheesy music that at the time, was labelled "bad" by everyone, but now are seen as "cheesy classics". There's always been "good" and "bad" music, depending on opinion, and these days, it's no different. Lighten up, you music critics :P

To me, I think I switch between music more often because I know it's there, not because it's flat. When I was younger, I was discovering my music tastes, so discovering a new song I loved was so much more amazing than it is now, since it was like discovering a new world. When I was introduced to Ayu, it blew my little twelve year old mind :laugh

isthisLOL? 12th January 2012 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by xLitax (Post 2801461)
In your opinion. Her ballads don't all sound the same, even if they do have the same themes. She is known for ballads, because she has amazing vocal which allowed her to sing "a hundred" ballads.

It's not an opinion. You're mistaking the music being good or not with it being generic and similar or not. One is partly subjective and I did not talk about it, one is purely objective.
I don't care if you like her music, you can like it if you want to. But her music is highly generic so bringing her up in a discussion about music becoming flat and generic is like bringing up Twilight as a positive example in a discussion about well-developed characters.
Her ballads follow highly similar compositional formulas very engraved in mainstream, moreso than those of the vast majority of singers, as do her more upbeat songs but not as extremely, and the same can be said about her lyrical themes. All very limited.

She is a great vocalist though. Even if her headvoice, falsetto and whistle register are rather weak and impressive only for their range. Her chestvoice was really great in the 90s especially.

xLitax 12th January 2012 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by isthisLOL? (Post 2801710)
It's not an opinion. You're mistaking the music being good or not with it being generic and similar or not. One is partly subjective and I did not talk about it, one is purely objective.
I don't care if you like her music, you can like it if you want to. But her music is highly generic so bringing her up in a discussion about music becoming flat and generic is like bringing up Twilight as a positive example in a discussion about well-developed characters.
Her ballads follow highly similar compositional formulas very engraved in mainstream, moreso than those of the vast majority of singers, as do her more upbeat songs but not as extremely, and the same can be said about her lyrical themes. All very limited.

She is a great vocalist though. Even if her headvoice, falsetto and whistle register are rather weak and impressive only for their range. Her chestvoice was really great in the 90s especially.

Great. I'm glad I have your permission.

isthisLOL? 12th January 2012 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by xLitax (Post 2801827)
Great. I'm glad I have your permission.

I love how you ignore every other sentence :innocent
Have you realized now I never judged her music as being good or bad or are you just trying to be witty? :P


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