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SunshineSlayer 27th March 2012 04:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Andrenekoi (Post 2842566)
Even if the album got #2, #3 or #5... Just yesterday she added a new date to the tour... So, besides all odds, I would say her career is still going pretty well...

The date that was added was in Miyagi - the area most effected by last years tsunami. So, the reason that date wasn't in there originally is probably because the arena wasn't ready yet.

happiholic★ 27th March 2012 05:07 AM

I wonder what this weekly number #2 is going to mean for future releases? Now that she's getting #2, will avex stop caring about her streaks, like with singles and such, and start releasing her stuff when there is competition more often? And what about the fans? The ones who did care about the records, will they stop now? Will #2 for PQ have no impact at all?

Didz-19 27th March 2012 05:24 AM

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Originally Posted by happiholic★ (Post 2842628)
I wonder what this weekly number #2 is going to mean for future releases? Now that she's getting #2, will avex stop caring about her streaks, like with singles and such, and start releasing her stuff when there is competition more often? And what about the fans? The ones who did care about the records, will they stop now? Will #2 for PQ have no impact at all?

You don't have to think too much about this~we'll see in the future~~~:lech

Andrenekoi 27th March 2012 05:27 AM

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Originally Posted by SunshineSlayer (Post 2842620)
The date that was added was in Miyagi - the area most effected by last years tsunami. So, the reason that date wasn't in there originally is probably because the arena wasn't ready yet.

They already had a date booked in Miyagi, on this same arena for this tour... She was already going to perform there one day before this new date... So, the arena not being ready is not a possibility.

And the tour still has 28 dates... far more than any other arena tour she had during her peak...

FoObY 27th March 2012 06:48 AM

The #1 Single streak hasn't been broken yet, so they'll probably try to maintain that.

njanjayrp 27th March 2012 07:01 AM

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Originally Posted by happiholic★ (Post 2842628)
I wonder what this weekly number #2 is going to mean for future releases? Now that she's getting #2, will avex stop caring about her streaks, like with singles and such, and start releasing her stuff when there is competition more often? And what about the fans? The ones who did care about the records, will they stop now? Will #2 for PQ have no impact at all?

GUILTY was #2...Don't forget that ABC is also under avex, if avex cared enough they could've easily manipulated the numbers.

happiholic★ 27th March 2012 07:27 AM

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Originally Posted by njanjayrp (Post 2842659)
GUILTY was #2...Don't forget that ABC is also under avex, if avex cared enough they could've easily manipulated the numbers.

Hm, well, I don't know to what extent the label can manipulate sales. I feel like PQ'ds #2 is a bit different. The release format is different no singles are leading up to the album, her 50th single beat Seiko's record. This era feels more... "new leaf" than Guilty's did.

~ayu-cake~ 27th March 2012 07:46 AM

I know Guilty officially got #2 but wasn't it released at a strange time and technically did hold the #1 spot?? :s. I only half remember??

MissElin_ 27th March 2012 08:15 AM

^No that's right. GUILTY's first real week was #1. There was all these holidays going on that time so they released the album one week before Oricon started counting. So the "real" week (when Oricon counted) was in reality GUILTY's 2nd week and it got "only" #2.

Jason 27th March 2012 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by happiholic★ (Post 2842628)
I wonder what this weekly number #2 is going to mean for future releases? Now that she's getting #2, will avex stop caring about her streaks, like with singles and such, and start releasing her stuff when there is competition more often? And what about the fans? The ones who did care about the records, will they stop now? Will #2 for PQ have no impact at all?

Her future could go either way in terms of future releases. Maybe she'll be advertised more or maybe Avex will stop giving a crap and just let her release something when she wants to (something I've been praying for for years).

I don't think streaks, sales, records or popularity should matter, to be honest. I mean, I'm proud of her achievments and all but I'm just happy she keeps releasing new music that I love.

Party Queen's sales don't bother me at all as long as we keep getting new albums :P

SolarAngel 27th March 2012 10:22 AM

^ That's my main concern as well. Can't help feeling a little disappointed that PQ is not going to get no. 1 but I hope she will just continue to release music and have fantastic concerts.

And maybe singles leading up to the album in future :P

TITANIC 27th March 2012 10:27 AM

Honestly I don't mind she's getting #2 but 1 thing that annoy me is not a big name artist outsold her. It would be great if she competed with EXILE and then lost the battle. I'm so proud when she broke mr. Children's streak when she released Duty on the same day with mr. Children.

SolarAngel 27th March 2012 10:29 AM

^She broke Kinki Kid's streak with RAINBOW in the second week too

SunshineSlayer 27th March 2012 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Andrenekoi (Post 2842633)
They already had a date booked in Miyagi, on this same arena for this tour... She was already going to perform there one day before this new date... So, the arena not being ready is not a possibility.

And the tour still has 28 dates... far more than any other arena tour she had during her peak...

Ahh ok. Didn't realize that. Usually she performs twice at each location though, so maybe there was just some scheduling conflict that she couldn't book two dates there at first. Usually when dates are added, it is for Tokyo area.

The second point though I don't really think is relevant. She could have easily performed 28+ dates at her peak (and in larger venues) but she was just a lot more busy then.

relmy 27th March 2012 11:30 AM

and at her peak she probably made enough (made Avex enough) from CD sales/advertising/tie-ins, now I imagine the main source of Ayu-income is her tours.

and GUILTY got #2 because of the Oricon double week, she was #1 for the first week, but she needed #1 over both weeks, I believe.

mecury2511 27th March 2012 11:38 AM

oh, this week she got #2 weekly, maybe next week she will get #1 weekly because tons of promo =]]]]]]

SURREAL__RAINBOW 27th March 2012 11:42 AM

26/03/2012

#1 MDNA - Madonna 6668
#2 Party Queen - 3735
#3 2012 - Acid Black Cherry 3342

AyuGAME 27th March 2012 11:45 AM

^WOW!!! FINALLY!!!
ABC under Ayu!
maybe the radio tour promotion start to working...

Ayu and Madonna together...like teacher and her pupil..hahaha

and maybe she can take over number one position of this week...
she has +1 day, from Madonna....(just a little hope though)

i hope...this album has longevity...the most important thing is the end result

relmy 27th March 2012 11:56 AM

Haha no way will Ayu get #1 in her second week if she's already down to 3000 a day, even if she wasn't she won't. Anyone who wants the album will have it now, the promo might let it maintain these numbers for a while, but no way will she be #1.

That new Kis-My-Ft2 Johnny's group are releasing their debut album and their singles sold like...3x more than PQ or something.

SURREAL__RAINBOW 27th March 2012 12:03 PM

lol at madge's number, 6668 :laugh


I guess we'll have less then 100k for its first week? Meh, it's sold quite well tbh.


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