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freedreamer 17th April 2012 04:56 AM

I dont know what numbers to believe in but these definitely look nice

TITANIC 17th April 2012 06:54 AM

wow very surprise with the result from Avex. I am... sold nearly 1 million more than what Oricon reported and A BALLADS 700K

SURREAL__RAINBOW 17th April 2012 07:06 AM

This is because some shops' sales don't count towards ORICON even though they still sell albums, singles, etc?


Yep, ORICON is mediocre and useless :laugh



EDIT: And not to even mention all the sales that are missing from the concert venues, since ORICON only counts a percentage of them? I still think this is not fair for anybody, if they think the companies are trying to boost their artists' sales (which is fair enough I think), couldn't they have people there making sure they aren't cheating and getting dodgy numbers? The percentage thing is just ****ing stupid, I hate it.

sanzo2011 17th April 2012 07:29 AM

I'm surprised that A Complete hasn't reached million yet!@@!

njanjayrp 17th April 2012 07:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tony G (Post 2853474)
^ clearly stores expected it to sell better than it did. For that time those sales for a best album are very very low.

A BALLADS isn't a best of album, it was a compilation/concept album (like Shimatani's "crossover") with some tracks remixed/re-arranged, so I don't think it falls into the same category as A BEST.

microphone 17th April 2012 09:21 AM

Which albums kept I am... and Duty from topping the year-end rank?

sanzo2011 17th April 2012 09:48 AM

Deep river and Delicious way, respectively!
Utada outsold I am... total sales in its first week!@@!

SummonerXI 17th April 2012 10:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SURREAL__RAINBOW (Post 2853508)
This is because some shops' sales don't count towards ORICON even though they still sell albums, singles, etc?

For example, if I remember correctly, YesAsia doesnt count toward Oricon.

SURREAL__RAINBOW 17th April 2012 10:59 AM

I think they do now but before they didn't :)

emi♡ 17th April 2012 11:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sanzo2011 (Post 2853550)
Deep river and Delicious way, respectively!
Utada outsold I am... total sales in its first week!@@!

crazy how sales were back then.


anyway, ORICON is always stupid. Even their polls suck. I think they've just been outdated for a while...

just like the global music industry though tbh. Guess we can't really blame them.

Heavenly 17th April 2012 11:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SummonerXI (Post 2853554)
For example, if I remember correctly, YesAsia doesnt count toward Oricon.

Not right, YesAsia does count toward Oricon ::

http://www.yesasia.com/global/custom...on-answer.html

maikkun 17th April 2012 06:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Heavenly (Post 2853559)
Not right, YesAsia does count toward Oricon ::

http://www.yesasia.com/global/custom...on-answer.html

That was not always the case.

Deep snow 18th April 2012 12:22 AM

Seeing those high sales, I'm feeling...nostalgic.

microphone 18th April 2012 01:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sanzo2011 (Post 2853550)
Deep river and Delicious way, respectively!
Utada outsold I am... total sales in its first week!@@!

Damn it, Utada...
Give the other artists a chance. She shows no mercy!

DEEP RIVER was a great album and deserved more sales than Distance, in my opinion. I'm just going to assume Ayu outsold the third highest selling album of that year by a large amount of copies. Do correct me if I'm wrong to think that.

Mr Jo' 18th April 2012 01:28 AM

"I am …” album sold 3.14 million Cds"
"FIVE" 250,000 copies

Awww :(

But now i think the only important thing for her is that us, the fan base we're always here to support her ~
Maybe now she don't care about the number of cds she sold...

rakeru 18th April 2012 02:09 AM

This is awesome! I like seeing (m)u over 1,000,000!

jo3mdr 18th April 2012 03:30 AM

For the difference in older releases, you guys should keep in mind that Oricon chart had only up to 100 position untill 2003, when it was extended to 200 and 300. And what if Ayu's releases sold only 1500 copies a week, which surely won't get a position in top 100, but sold steadily for one year... it would make at least 75,000 copies difference.

Refix 18th April 2012 05:49 AM

Wow, seeing Ayu's album sale hit +4 or +3 million is just nostalgic...what a great year back then.

kotora 18th April 2012 06:30 AM

I heard Oricon only counts the CD sales in big retail stores, e.g. HMV, Tower Record, but ignores the small retail stores in Japan.

YUKARI 18th April 2012 10:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zellyx (Post 2853386)
daaang look at the A Ballads difference.
"A BALLADS” (album) 1,710,000--> 1 040 000 copies

woooww that's huge difference :thud


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