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attractive nausea 17th April 2018 10:33 AM

^ The lyrics argument is valid but it's not like it was the very first time her lyrics weren't deep? I mean Sparkle lyrics aren't deep either.

tokyoxjapanxfan 17th April 2018 10:37 AM

^ I agree, but Sparkle also isn't very highly regarded in Japan either haha xD it was far more popular amongst the international fans

koumori 17th April 2018 11:53 AM

The only real complaints I heard back then was that the video was too fun/meaningless, but those complaints were also directed towards the lyrics being too casual (I feel tokyoxjapanxfan already covered this better).

Nick from eneabba was the only person I remember really doing something about being against the message of the PV. He returned a few years ago to speak about this when someone asked about the website, and pretty much stood by his beliefs.

There were likely 2-3 more people who said homophobic comments but nothing stands out in my memory. It'll be hard to find evidence of that in old threads since anything that veers into homophobia/hate speech is removed.

Party_King 17th April 2018 12:03 PM

I'm actually a little bit too lazy to search for it,
but I had a discussion with nick some years ago here on AHS...
He was really mad about my honest words towards him.
Shortly after this discussion he changed the "official reason" why he stopped updating...
His original reason was definitely homophobic shit...

Anyway...
I can't remember Lady Dynamite PV getting a lot of hate...
I think it was just overshadowed by Sexy little things/Microphone and Don't look back PVs.

thesweetseason 17th April 2018 12:08 PM

It was literally just him being homophobic, saying stuff like there are questionable scenes in the men's bathroom etc and he will no longer support Ayu because of it.

I mean really. Who doesn't consider Ayu a gay icon anyway?

Andrenekoi 17th April 2018 12:51 PM

I do think the lyrics are pretty ok for their purpose of being a empowering song for women and (after the video) gay men. It's pretty much saying "we are going to live our lifes as we want, even if thats bothers you", what is not only a good message for those kind of songs as also a recurrent lyrical theme for Ayu.

Or did people had problem with the wording, like in Sparkle?

Sky High 17th April 2018 12:52 PM

Yeah, this sound like homophobia to me.

thesweetseason 17th April 2018 12:58 PM

http://www.eneabba.net/ayu/video/vid...y_Dynamite.htm

He even says the song is good.

KarenPang 17th April 2018 01:33 PM

I remembered back then when Lady Dynamite PV was released , the only thing I remembered from that time was the remarks nick made & they were quite insensitive

I didn't joined in the conversation cos I know things would get bad as some people on here can get very opinionated

Ayu is a big LGBTQ supporter & champions such rights a great deal . Even the staff she works with , some are gay as well

Anyway yes it's true that Lady Dynamite PV was controversial to some extent but for those who don't want to watch the PV , you can choose not to . I mean some of Ayu's recent PVs are so bad that I only bother to watch it just once & that's it

End of the day I don't think the PV is the main reason on why 'many people' lost interest on Ayu , it's a myriad of different factors which EndOfTheWorld listed some of them down & I feel Lady Dynamite PV is not 1 of them

stepYOU1234 17th April 2018 10:51 PM

The worst part of Lady Dynamite was that orange fur coat...!

I remember eneabba completely overreacting to it and as one of the best resources that was a shame but if he is homophobic then he is best out of the Ayu fandom.

alternarist 18th April 2018 12:20 AM

It was sad to see Nick from eneabba leave like that, but I respect his decisions.

and Lady Dynamite is awesome period. Bye Felicia to those who cannot accept it.

freedreamer 18th April 2018 09:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Minerva (Post 3270052)
I appreciated eneabba, it was an amazing website but I think he’s just closed minded.
I remember that he kept making it a big deal, he kept going in different threads saying the same shit.

really a pity :(

Earth_maiden 18th April 2018 01:05 PM

Quote:

but video shot in a gay club with some parts in the men's toilet is quite questionable...
Was this a big deal back in 2010? These days you have RuPaul's Drag Race that makes the Lady Dynamite PV look like Playschool.

Aga-chan 20th April 2018 07:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andrenekoi (Post 3270053)
People really disliked the video direction, but pretty much every video of the director was bashed.

I don't think he really "gets" Ayu. That sexy & fierce image he's going for just doesn't suit her.
And the Mirrorcle World PV is atrocious. LOL It could've been SO GOOD, though.

I have only watched the Lady Dynamite PV once, but it probably was one of his better ones? I can't really remember. Though I don't know why he makes her act so weird. In the beginning of the GREEN PV she walks as if she was going to get a contagious illness from the people around her. lol

As for the lyrics, they don't have to be deep to have a message. ^_-

Andrenekoi 20th April 2018 11:38 AM

^I do like all of his videos :P MW is his weakest one IMO.

oaristos 20th April 2018 09:30 PM

Yeah, I've been following Ayu's career closely since the release of glitter/fated and I don't remember many people being mad at Lady Dynamite for its LGBTQ theme. As many people already mentioned, that text from eneabba is purely Nick's personal reason behind his loss of interest in Ayu. He already explained himself saying that he doesn't support that "lifestyle" and doesn't like that Ayu "promotes" it in her music videos.


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