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eriko 22nd July 2004 01:20 PM

her english accent is difficult to understand
anyway she will be better if she learns

kiwik 24th July 2004 03:55 AM

Awww~ she won't be crossing over any time soon then... :(

gakkun 25th July 2004 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Chibinina4
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Or you can look at it this way: Ayu is "fluent" in engrish, not English. (see Real me PV, Everywhere Nowhere, Dolls, forgiveness, LOVEppears commercial where she says "Hamasaki Ayumi. New ah-roo-bah-mooh. Love ah-peee-haaas.") :laugh But at least she tries.

That's not Engrish is it? I thought Arubamu is a real Japanese word.

AyuRlz 25th July 2004 12:04 PM

haha... if ayu had used the dictionary then that would be great cos some of the song titles look superb to mi.. haha.. but i tink ayu remaining as ayu and utada remaining as utada would be better than merging them together as ayutada... :p

evolutionricky 28th July 2004 03:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Phantoma
I wonder... Does Ayu title her songs herself or does she use like an English Consultant or something? :think

I bet she just picks random words from an english dictionary for songs lol.

nmskalmn 28th July 2004 04:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Phantoma
I wonder... Does Ayu title her songs herself or does she use like an English Consultant or something? :think

We've been told that someone at avex helps Ayu choose the song titles.

bernardation 30th July 2004 07:32 AM

the only thing that explains me utada going to a eua career before ayumi is that she knows english. ayu REALLY gotta learn it...

sxesven 30th July 2004 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by nmskalmn
We've been told that someone at avex helps Ayu choose the song titles.

No sjiz. 'Here Ayu, this sounds nice.' 'Kumquat?' 'I'd do it.' 'Okay!' *runs off, cheering*

Dennis 2nd August 2004 04:03 PM

I'm sure Ayu is trying though :yes .

sugarbasil 25th August 2004 08:11 AM

Well, I guess it's kinda like any language. I mean, it's almost impossible (well, at least in the States...) not to know a few phrases in Spanish. Kinda like most people studying Japanese can know a lot but be pronouncing it completely weird. :/

But c'mon, at least it's not as bad as Gackt's. >_<;; Ayu sounded like a local American compared to him when they sang "Silent Night." ^o^

However, on the Utada subject: Utada IS fluent in English. She has a CD coming out in American in October and is having a concert in New York. Unlike Ayu, Hikki was born in American (New York to be precise) so she has no problems.

Chrono 25th August 2004 07:53 PM

yeah, hikki was born in the States. Would be ashaming if she didn't speak english properly. And I don't think it's bad to speak Engrish. An accent is given by birth and is very difficult to get rid off. as long as they speak understandable english, it's ok right? no offence, but english with pakistanian accent is often much more unclear, while grammatically perfect. Just like my english, it has a slight dutch accent, and I just can't get rid of it. even though i learned english through american sitcoms.

But Ayu speaking English, i don't think so. Basic things, of course. But I don't think she could actually have a conversation in English.

kenkamken 25th August 2004 08:28 PM

um, i dont understand...So these sites were to show that some have a hard time to speak/type english. or did ayumi have a part in making em? Cuz it brings up differ sites... :yconfused

Hye Cheon 25th August 2004 10:32 PM

To be honest, Ayu's accent isn't bad at all. It's much better than those who learned English the governmental textbook way (i.e. through the Japanese pronunciation of English, as opposed to the English pronunciation of English). She can pronounce sounds that most can't, for example, like the consonants which don't exist in natural Japanese. Even more awesomely, she can pick out the difference in vowel sounds (which is the most difficult part of learning a new language's accent). I don't think she knows English, per se, but I'm sure she knows more than minor greetings and phrases. I doubt school English did much for her, because she wasn't much of a student in the first place (and didn't she drop out?).

But it's great that she wants to learn more to be more independent with it. Maybe she could improve her accent well enough to sing full songs in English up to American standards and be a success much like Celine Dion was before she spoke English. Tatu had mild (albeit... very... mild) success with their limited English, too. Still, it's just a thought, and probably wouldn't happen at this late point in her career.

"Arubamu" is a Japanese word (though it obviously comes from English), and the younger generations of Japanese people would probably understand "nyuu" (or "new") in context. "Sankyuu" is also a common Japanese phrase among younger generations. It's kind of cute and quirky and playful, compared to the true Japanese word.

TNeilson 26th August 2004 06:44 AM

in Panasonic's "Eye Love Music" commercial....the slogen was sooo perfect...especially "music".....she did not say "miu-zi-ku"....she said "music".... that's awesome.... LoL

PickleCookies 26th August 2004 07:43 AM

I think she's faking her Engrish. I bet she knows it fluently and is fooling all of us. Well, except me, of course.

isaac hiew 26th August 2004 10:06 AM

Since Japanese language were restricted to merely not more than 100 types of vowel pronounciations, it's indeed that they have problems learning foreign languages.

Plus, they only start to learn English on grade 7 (middle school year 1), so it's quite bad.

mcluva420 15th January 2009 08:09 AM

yes she does. her english is improving so much! :O
she speaks better english than when she sings it O____O
i just saw the making of mirrorcle world..she can definitely understand english and speak conversational english. and when she had a CNN interview, i was impressed!
also, she uses english 2 communicate w/ her non japanese fans.
she went 2 france&china, and she spoke english...wow..english is totally the universal language ^___^

KarenPang 15th January 2009 08:15 AM

I think over the past few years her pronounciation & probably grammar has improved although I still have problems understanding her as her Japanese accent will tend to get in the way unlike KAT-TUN's Akanishi Jin where his Japanese accent's not there

I don't think you will be hearing Ayumi ranting stuff like Car Shrimp :rofl (classic one Akanishi :lmfao , before he went to study Eng for 6 months in LA ie. heh :bchuck)

AyUta 15th January 2009 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by tl1029530921 (Post 302749)
i dont think her song titles were in her vocabulary b4 the song was actually made. Someone must've made it up for her. Evolution, surreal, monochrome r very uncommon words and i dubt ayu came up wiht the words herself.


I've always wondered that as well. Someone must have came up with them for her.

KarenPang 15th January 2009 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by AyUta (Post 1781458)
I've always wondered that as well. Someone must have came up with them for her.

or maybe she has on hand electronic or hard covers of Japanese to Eng dictionaries or probably just ask someone to help her on it


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