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destiny_ayu 13th October 2004 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by TeamAyu
Yeah I don't think Namie is more talented than Ayu at all and if anything less talented in the music department...

Namie surely win ayu in the dancing part =P

tetsuo69 13th October 2004 10:04 PM

BoA is fluent :laugh :laugh :laugh :laugh :laugh :laugh :laugh :laugh

yeah! and i'm superman :innocent

sxesven 13th October 2004 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by bulmasman
we're gonna get really annoying kids wh act like they're jpop fans because they've heard the new english stuff -_- it happend with anime and "alternative" rock etc...

So sad, so true.

meichan 13th October 2004 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by voltron
...I don't see how either of the two could sing what they sing if they knew just how wrong it is and what little sense they're makes.

Because they aren't trying to sell the songs in an English-speaking country.

I mean, there are the girls that speak English in Hello! Project - Mika Todd and Ayaka. Almost none of the English in Hello! Project songs make sense, but they sing it anyhow. And they are both fluent in the language.

AfanforXX 13th October 2004 11:42 PM

[IMO]Namie when compared to Hamasaki, has a better voice, more range, no matter what she sings, she sounds good. Her voice is versatile. Not to mention how good her lives are on most songs.

I'll refrain from mentioning her dancing, everyone already knows she's a pro.

While writing lyrics is definetly a plus, there's nothing wrong with singing someone else's song. I mean, people who write songs are usually profesionals, and most of the time they write good songs. Example: Diane Warren doesn't sing, but her lyrics are always great. If Namie isn't comfortable with or can't write lyrics, her voice more than makes up for it.

That article is probably erroneous. Her biggest international singles were her eurobeat songs from pre-avex, correct me if I'm wrong. Anyways, if Concentration 20 was released in the US, it was probably still in Japanese.

...just my $.02

[and no, i'm not a Namie Amuro fanboy, Ayumi Hamasaki used to be higher on my list than Namie, but then she turned into a vibrato monster and I feel out of love, i love all her pre-H songs]

UHPlus 14th October 2004 02:27 AM

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Her sophomore album Concentration 20 was also a hit upon release one year later, and it served as Amuro's American debut in 1997.
i dun think this sentence means that she release a english album of concentration 20 in U.S ..^_^;

it means that her 'concentration 20' album was released into U.S, Australia, taiwan etc and ppl outside Japan started noticed her.....it's sometime like overseas version of the album shipped outside Japan and all over the world....not a english one :no

Calico 14th October 2004 04:24 AM

"this must've been before she got pregnant and married to TK."

Just to clarify...KEIKO from globe married TK, not Namie. Although she was being produced by him up until that time.

And I've heard about this kind of stuff...I've seen Mai's US albums a couple of times, and I know that Yaiko had one released in Europe. It's kinda interesting to see them do this kind of marketing.

And Namie vs. Hikki...oh I can see it now =P

meichan 14th October 2004 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Calico
And Namie vs. Hikki...oh I can see it now =P

Well, I was really disappointed with what Hikki decided to give us for her debut... Maybe if Namie came over she'd be better...

MsMiyabi 14th October 2004 09:20 PM

Namie would give a better English album! Most Jpop artist should know english! Its a they MUST/HAVE TO take in High School

voltron 15th October 2004 12:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Akurei
Namie would give a better English album! Most Jpop artist should know english! Its a they MUST/HAVE TO take in High School

Unfortunately, they don't always learn proper, grammatically correct English in school because many of the teachers aren't fluent enough to be really teaching it.

meichan 15th October 2004 01:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Akurei
Namie would give a better English album! Most Jpop artist should know english! Its a they MUST/HAVE TO take in High School

That's like saying that because us Canadians have to study French from Grades one - eleven that we should all be fluent in the language. And I'll tell you right now, I can say maybe five things in French.
One of them is 'Je suis pain.'
I don't know if you can read that, but it means 'I am bread.'
So you know... I'm not holding too much faith in Japanese people who have to take English in school. (Not that there isn't the bunch that could be fluent. This is just my example.)

MsMiyabi 15th October 2004 01:58 AM

I had french and I hated it!

meichan 15th October 2004 02:03 AM

Exactly. I bet a lot of Japanese people hate taking English as well.

DerrickRocks2004 15th October 2004 02:07 AM

Actually Namie is suppose to be fluent. I heard her speak one time and that was at a press confrence for break the rules. i tried to find the downloads for it and i can't. She was up there with Dallas Austin and Rodney Jerkins.

openingRUN 15th October 2004 02:11 AM

hmm... namie still has enough japanese accent to be misunderstood, in my opinion. her looks and musical style might catch on, but she'd have to have flawless english... or atleast not a serious accent.

MsMiyabi 15th October 2004 02:13 AM

Namie has People from Nyc produced some songs on her album should be able to speak french!

Linzy 16th October 2004 01:52 AM

Amuro can't speak English for the life of her - listen to FISH. Bwahahaha.

DerrickRocks 16th October 2004 02:00 AM

omg FISH!!!!! i still have yet to hear it i am afraid to check it out but then again i heard it is really hard to include english in japanese songs the only person i know that could pull it off was Kuraki Mai,Utada,Melody and sometimes BoA. :(

Delirium-Zer0 16th October 2004 05:12 AM

Her english on "Style" was really inconsistent... in songs like "So Crazy" and "as good as" I could understand almost perfectly. Then on "Fish" i was like, huh? o_O I guess for some songs she worked harder on pronunciation. Actually I've found it's easier to copy someone else's pronunciation, so maybe for some songs she heard an english speaker singing the words, and for others she didn't.

tommy96814 16th October 2004 07:27 AM

yao ming is very fluent in english too! :D


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