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Nevada 8th July 2006 09:06 AM

I actually like the song. The last lyric is one of the most powerful I've heard from her..

norain 8th July 2006 09:16 AM

Let us all take a moment to remember this very special line with those who don't understand the language they listen to...

"LOST, in translation" :-D

Jer Sieu 8th July 2006 10:00 AM

@AyuGame : What do you mean too "American"?

All her lyrics are weird? Lol, I never thought her lyrics were weird... For me, they are meaningful... :P

SunshineSlayer 8th July 2006 10:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Syphex
basically, the poster is saying that he doesn't like the lyrics to pride since s/he feels that ayu shouldn't be debating the meaning of her existance with all the freedom that she has--the same freedom that ordinary people struggle to obtain. He feels that ayu is wasting her time by debating such questions since ayu worked hard for her position and should enjoy where she is. Finally, the poster doesn't like how ayu seems to "judge" us when she questions why ordinary people strive for material things or how we should be improving ourselves.

Better? I don't know whether some things are what the poster meant, but I tried to read inbetween the lines as little as possible so I can give a clearer/unbiased picture..

I think what Ayu is saying quite clearly in that song, is that no matter what your station is in life, whether you are an "ordinary" person or someone famous like her, we all want things we can't have. Like she points out that "ordinary people strive for material things", but that even with her station and ability to get any material thing she wants, she still is not satisfied. She's not saying it in terms of Celebrities are better than normal people, she is saying that this is a general trait of mankind no matter who you are.

heyheyderek 8th July 2006 11:17 AM

i don't think ayu has much freedom
She is such a big star that she can't go everywhere that she wants to go~
She is always busy at work and has no time to relax
Perhaps this makes her feel herself lacking freedom

hopeorpain 9th July 2006 12:26 AM

I think ayueyes doesn't like "Pride" very much, lol. But for me it's a good song because of the deep and meaningful lyrics, and of course Ayu's emotional singing. It's certainly different from everything else she has done, but definitely not a bad song.

Also I think in the lyrics Ayu is questioning people's first intuitions about their desires, and perhaps her own?

ayueyes 9th July 2006 06:21 AM

mmm,well.i know what I want to say but maybe I have difficulty in putting it across that had made some of you "(miss)understood"~lol~
i dont mean her lyrics is weird, i like this meaningful and thoughtful style. i just discontented about her answer to the little girl that asked her.
and,to tell the truth about the tune and arrangement, i'm not into this kind- somebody called it American style?i never know.i just remember my schoolmates in school chorus always sing this kinda songs. Anyway,this is not her original style, the most appropriate for her should be songs like evolution or is this love..

michiAki 9th July 2006 06:27 AM

pride is a nice song

Jer Sieu 9th July 2006 11:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ayueyes
mmm,well.i know what I want to say but maybe I have difficulty in putting it across that had made some of you "(miss)understood"~lol~
i dont mean her lyrics is weird, i like this meaningful and thoughtful style. i just discontented about her answer to the little girl that asked her.
and,to tell the truth about the tune and arrangement, i'm not into this kind- somebody called it American style?i never know.i just remember my schoolmates in school chorus always sing this kinda songs. Anyway,this is not her original style, the most appropriate for her should be songs like evolution or is this love..

May be its just coincidence... Anyway, there are english song which actually sound like Ayu's song... I'm sorry... Couldn't explain further cuz I really DID "missunderstood" and still don't understand...

So what do you consider a song sounds "japanese"? Evolution? Is that what you mean?

Mad_Cactuar 9th July 2006 01:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Syphex
basically, the poster is saying that he doesn't like the lyrics to pride since s/he feels that ayu shouldn't be debating the meaning of her existance with all the freedom that she has--the same freedom that ordinary people struggle to obtain. He feels that ayu is wasting her time by debating such questions since ayu worked hard for her position and should enjoy where she is. Finally, the poster doesn't like how ayu seems to "judge" us when she questions why ordinary people strive for material things or how we should be improving ourselves.

Better? I don't know whether some things are what the poster meant, but I tried to read inbetween the lines as little as possible so I can give a clearer/unbiased picture..

Thanks for the translation.. But can you tell what he meant by "school chorus"? o__O

Ani_C 9th July 2006 07:03 PM

I just saw the lyrics rite now and all I have to say is WOW they are amazing :D

chameber80218 12th July 2006 07:32 PM

You know, I really like this song. So, I don't know what are you talking about!


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