Donna Lewis - I love you always forever

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hYMi2RW1wEk

I wish It was my ringtone

you've gotta be kidding, i used to love that song SO much. :laugh

Jacko's Thiller and Mrs. Spears' Toxic.

One is like, the greatest pop song of all time and the other that ushered in a modern pop sound.

Thriller - Michael Jackson :P

i disagree.. they're pretty pop!!

hahaha! SPICE GIRLS ARE THE GREATEST :)

Well, I didn't say they're not pop, but they did not start it all :).

I agree on that hey are... pretty... pop, lol.

Pretty pop, hehehe, bubblegum pop that's cool stuff u don't get to read it in books...
I remember that song of the SPICE GIRLS "Weekend Love", that was hot, oh! I have to add It's over now by Natasha Thomas and THE REAL THING by GWEN STEFANI

WHat Do I Have To Do - Kylie Minogue

And I'd like to add everything by Gwen Stefani.

Me and my friend sang to that song in her bed and made up hand motions.

We weren't even drunk. I kid you not.

And when it plays at mervyns, I pour my heart out and sing to it!

I wasn't even drunk. I kid you a lot.

YES! Especially "Serious."

Papa Don't Preach (by Madonna, not Kelly Ousborne)

That song is the pure expression of what an excellent pop song is. Used to be my favorite song when I was 5 years old, and nowadays, 20 years after, that song never ever grows old, it still is a favorite. I wonder what hit Madonna when she released TRUE BLUE since some of her most excellent songs are in that album.

Madonna - Like A Prayer
Mariah Carey - Always Be My Baby
Natalie Imbruglia - Torn
Jewel - hands
Cher - If I Could Turn Back Time
Savage Garden - Crash and Burn
Paula Abdul - Opposites Attract

and the list goes on and on...

Me, too. Nobody didn't knew it!
It's not so that all liked it, but they knew it all.

People we should try to post songs that we think that are special among others... Not just the songs we like... I posted lotta songs I don't like...

Here I'll add sum more songs:

PET SHOP BOYS - Go west
ROBBIE WILLIAMS - She's Madonna
ROBBIE WILLIAMS - Kiss me

Well, if it's not for personal tastes, you seriously don't think EASY BREEZY is one of the greatest POP songs of all time among people, do you?

You're both (that's you and immel, who you quoted) halfway right. Pop is a very broad genre, though it's often only considered as the kind of music that is, indeed, on the Billboard Pop Chart. However, like I said, pop is a very broad genre, and includes pretty much everything leave for a couple of genres (e.g. jazz, avant-garde, classical music). Hence, I will include things that could technically fall into genres as rock or folk, but quite untechnically, they're just the darndest greatest pop songs ever recorded:

Chihiro Onitsuka - Tiger in My Love (YouTube)
The Jesus & Mary Chain - Just Like Honey (YouTube)
Utada Hikaru - Final Distance (YouTube)
Joanna Newsom - Peach, Plum, Pear (YouTube)
Pretenders - Brass in Pocket (YouTube)
Fiona Apple - Paper Bag (YouTube)
Animal Collective - Who Could Win a Rabbit (YouTube)
Palace Music - New Partner
Shiina Ringo - Gibs (YouTube)
David Bowie - Life on Mars (YouTube)
Jamie Lidell - Multiply (YouTube
Beirut - Postcards from Italy (YouTube)
Joni Mitchell - A Case of You (YouTube)
Wire - Fragile
Iron & Wine - Each Coming Night
Jon Brion - Strings That Tie to You
Novastar - When the Lights Go Down on the Broken-Hearted (YouTube)
Alamo Race Track - Life Like Fire
U2 - Who's Gonna Ride Your Wild Horses (YouTube)
Aimee Mann - Deathly
Belle & Sebastian - Dear Catastrophe Waitress (YouTube)
Sufjan Stevens - John Wayne Gacy, Jr. (YouTube)
Sigur Rós - Starálfur (YouTube)

Recently, though, I've heard lots about that jazz, classical music, and so on, can be included. It counts as popular music because people listen to it. Especially, there's radio channels with classical music only.

Technically popular music includes everything that a kind of majority listens to.

I think it's about time they actually split it into the genre "pop", which would include the most basic pop sound and anything close enough to be called pop.

And the term "popular music", that includes everything of what pop originally is/means/meant.

Genres is mainly for the ease of categorizing, for the music resellers, anyway :P.

Nothing is certain, especially when it's all so much based on personal taste. It fluctuates with the opinions of the majority, like everything else that has anything to do with language.

I've never liked the classification of 'pop' as popular, even if it's where the word comes from. Popularity is relative, and frankly, every genre is popular, except then with certain crowds.

My points is, you're wrong. I'd love to get technical, but more frankly I actually wouldn't

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What the heck. I'll just copy and paste the quick Wikipedia definition here (which is 100% correct) for starters:

Notice that pop music thus excludes 1/ classical music, 2/ folk music and 3/ art music. What art music denotes is debatable, but if you limit it to jazz and whatever falls under avant-garde (meaning everything from ambient to harsh noise and power electronics) you're pretty safe.

The definition of pop music as 'popular music', meaning music that is considerably popular, is frankly quite nondescriptive and immensily popular among those who have no notion of musical genres and their respective histories. Popular is a completely relative term, and though I understand what's meant by popular, ergo the fact that a considerable number of people appreciate x, it doesn't make for an obvious classification of what pop is. And pop can certainly be classified: as said before, it's everything but classical music, art music and folk. The immense popularity of, say, Miles Davis, or classical composers like Mozart, Bach or Beethoven, or whatever popular folk artist you can come up with, doesn't make them pop. I hope you see the pure absurdity of even considering this.

Of course, all this does not mean that pop is, in the end, a genre with clear boundaries. In fact, it certainly is not. There's plenty of cases imagineable where there's no clear division; plenty of pop artists borrow freely from aforementioned non-pop genres and in some cases it's just incredibly difficult to categorize something. Where does Bob Dylan fall? Pop or folk? Where does Billie Holiday go? Jazz or pop? Not to mention such dubious cases such as Il Divo.

Whatever the case, I hope this at least marginally improves your understanding of pop and non-pop. Thank your for reading.

I never tried to claim to be right, I'm only presenting what I have heard and how my view of it has been, up till now.

My whole point is that I don't care, I love to discuss things to see if or what happens and what I can learn.

I hate the classification of pop as popular, maybe resent would be an even better word.

Pop is pop, in my simple little world.

You're hilarious :D.