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jbrat2219 20th February 2009 11:45 AM

I hope she is on the new ViVi >_<; I usually buy it when she is!

SunshineSlayer 20th February 2009 11:49 AM

^ I totally don't remember that. She performed Jewel on Mstay 3 times if I remember correctly. Fans were discussing if anyone had ever canceled a music station appearance on the day of the show (let alone on the super live) and they said that the only one that came to mind was maybe Tatu. Dreams Come True apparently canceled as well due to illness but she gave them several days notice. If this rumor is true though, its totally ridiculous considering the circumstances. But at the same time, Japan is really big on apologies. Even one of the Ayu fans wrote that if the rumor turns out to be true, she would stop being an Ayu fan. :shock Japan is just crazy serious about that stuff.

edit: just checked my Ayu collection and she did indeed perform Jewel as scheduled on Oct. 13, 2006.

njanjayrp 20th February 2009 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by SunshineSlayer (Post 1834155)
Even one of the Ayu fans wrote that if the rumor turns out to be true, she would stop being an Ayu fan. :shock Japan is just crazy serious about that stuff.

:thud

edit: in the end it might just be that ayu was too busy (being in Hawaii and LA) to shoot the lives and mag. pics.

ayumisrael 20th February 2009 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by SunshineSlayer (Post 1834065)
But if they are really focusing on promoting the album, there should at least be some magazines that are known by now don't you think? Unless they really aren't planning on promoting the album until AFTER it has come out. Also interesting, is that they have apparently filmed at least up until the March 10th episode of Heyx3 (Arashi is going to be on it and fans reported about their appearance) Heyx3 audience is always made up of fan club members, which is how the Japanese Ayu fan sites usually know her tv schedule before Avex posts it. Anyways, so unless they film a last minute segment or something and add her in to one of the episodes, she likely will not be on Heyx3 for at least another couple of weeks. Just really weird considering Ayu's history of promoting on TV imo

But they always post schedule news in ayu's official website 2-3 weeks before the release (maybe even just a week before hand).
NEXT LEVEL is still more than a month away.
They didn't promote Rule/Sparkle on TV/mags but I'm (almost) sure they will NEXT LEVEL.
Maybe they did it in order to give it a better promotion and saved for that.

The NINKI is good, I'm glad it has got some interest.
I hope it will get #1 like in the NINKI.
The sales are predicted to be lower than the usual.

KarenPang 20th February 2009 12:12 PM

NINKI should have been scrapped a long time ago as by right it's not a good indicator at all

it can be very on or off in so many occasions , I lost count to begin with :dead2

njanjayrp 20th February 2009 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by SunshineSlayer (Post 1834155)
^ I totally don't remember that. She performed Jewel on Mstay 3 times if I remember correctly. Fans were discussing if anyone had ever canceled a music station appearance on the day of the show (let alone on the super live) and they said that the only one that came to mind was maybe Tatu. Dreams Come True apparently canceled as well due to illness but she gave them several days notice. If this rumor is true though, its totally ridiculous considering the circumstances. But at the same time, Japan is really big on apologies. Even one of the Ayu fans wrote that if the rumor turns out to be true, she would stop being an Ayu fan. :shock Japan is just crazy serious about that stuff.

edit: just checked my Ayu collection and she did indeed perform Jewel as scheduled on Oct. 13, 2006.

So it wasn't canceled, my bad :)

douggn 20th February 2009 12:14 PM

Go ayu, I wounder if the stock market crashing recession thing is affecting avex and that's why there's not as much promoting going around

Meat Pao 20th February 2009 12:18 PM

The NINKI is quite disappointing :( I hope flumpool or DREAMS COME TRUE won't get #1 because it seems like they have a moderate chance in getting #1 too imo :(

SunshineSlayer 20th February 2009 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by ayumisrael (Post 1834167)
But they always post schedule news in ayu's official website 2-3 weeks before the release (maybe even just a week before hand).

And the Ayu fan sites have it up usually at least a week before the official site does. And for magazines it has to be known several weeks in advance because of how early the mags go on the shelves. But really, everything is just rumor right now as to what is going on - I think a lot of fans are just shocked because this is not how Ayu and certainly not how Avex usually promotes - no matter how you look at it its kinda weird. Even Avex announcing a release date for an album that by and large hadn't been recorded yet is weird. Hopefully the latest is true that at least Dragon Ball is getting an m-topics mention today; its not much, but at least its something.

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Originally Posted by douggn (Post 1834178)
Go ayu, I wounder if the stock market crashing recession thing is affecting avex and that's why there's not as much promoting going around

I don't think that would be quite the reason simply due to the fact that they put quite a bit of promotion into Koda's album Trick plus, when I was in Japan the first 2 weeks of this month, they had already started doing promotion stuff with Namie even though her single isn't due till mid march she was on several magazine covers, her cms were getting heavy airplay, and then of course the coke zero posters started going up. I was surprised her promotion was starting that early actually. In comparison, a post from 2 ch says that they have yet to see a single cm on tv for rule/sparkle, Dragon Ball, or even the Honda Zest Spark Cm. I'm seriously interested to see how this single will do. Will it be surprisingly high or rock bottom low?

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Originally Posted by Meat Pao (Post 1834185)
The NINKI is quite disappointing :( I hope flumpool or DREAMS COME TRUE won't get #1 because it seems like they have a moderate chance in getting #1 too imo :(

I'm slightly worried about this as well. Ninki has been known to be highly inaccurate and while DCT has not sold super great lately, this is their 20th anniversary single. I'm more worried about Flumpool though. As other have said, its likely to be an upstart group that would eventually take the single streak away since Avex usually won't put her up against big selling established players. It almost happened with Shuchushin and for whatever reason, flumpool has been gaining a lot of attention the last few months.

I'm getting too into this, haha~ Must go to sleep now. :)

popiah 20th February 2009 01:22 PM

Perhaps the next ViVi issue may feature ayu in the cover! If I'm not wrong, when ayu went to Hawaii in Jan, the ViVi editor/team was there too. So hopefully there's at least one mag promo!

freedreamer 20th February 2009 02:29 PM

I believe she'll get number 1?.... :S
NEXT LEVEL is gonna harm sales a lot...

but i hope people who love Dragonball will buy..

Jwiz 20th February 2009 02:33 PM

I think i will just cross my hands and hope that this single will attain #1 with decent sales...

waterballoon 20th February 2009 03:51 PM

Hmm, since NINKI is so unreliable, I guess I'll wait for the single's actual sales to be released then! Just 5 more days!

Melrose 20th February 2009 04:00 PM

Wow, MW was THAT low?

v3lun420 20th February 2009 05:15 PM

I hope this single will have decent sales... at least enough to hold her no.1 consecutive single record. After she broke that record, I honestly won;t be worry too much whether her singles will chart no.1 or not, though I still hope she will continue to have no.1s for the rest of her career.... (I think I ask too much already^^)

SolarAngel 20th February 2009 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by njanjayrp (Post 1833950)
So judging by NINKI, this single could sell pretty much the similar way talkin' 2 myself did, as we predicted. Also it's weird how Aki's releasing an album in the same week (she has also released TODAY in the same week talkin' 2 myself was released, and her first week sales were less than t2m's xD). I guess that considering that this single is meant to promote the album it's ok :)

But MW had only 2/3 of t2m's index and look how that sold. But i guess if you want to be conservative and not get your hopes too high, a t2m estimation is prudent lol... I'm hoping for at least 100k in first week though!

BoBo 20th February 2009 05:19 PM

nothing which isn't expected :)

njanjayrp 20th February 2009 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by SolarAngel (Post 1834415)
But MW had only 2/3 of t2m's index and look how that sold. But i guess if you want to be conservative and not get your hopes too high, a t2m estimation is prudent lol... I'm hoping for at least 100k in first week though!

So would I, but considering everything, I really don't want to get my hopes up xD So I am trying to be realistic :innocent

ALfromHELLSING 20th February 2009 07:55 PM

I'm sure it will sell better than talkin' 2 myself! 'cause overall single is stronger. IMO

SunshineSlayer 20th February 2009 08:21 PM

Continuing with the no promotion saga: It is now apparent since the April Digi Diary came out, that Ayu will not be on the cover of Vivi in either March or April. :( Also, Mstay released the guest list for next week: Still no Ayu (but kinda figured that since we now know she is going to LA again) however, flumpool will be there and Mstay usually gives artists a bit of a sales bump; here's hoping it doesn't bump them too high!


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