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zyoeru 5th May 2009 10:53 AM

^ That's the one! She also covered a Rimi Natsukawa song. :)

ayu_fantasy 5th May 2009 10:58 AM

Wow, thanks for all the opinion....

I have a friend who told me that Cpop is more influential and recognise in the world.... And she used to say jpop sucks like crazy.... especially ayumi hamasaki....

I have nothing against that... But i myself think that Cpop lacked substance and quality. How could they be so influential in the world? No offence.

ayu_fantasy 5th May 2009 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Furashubakku (Post 1929432)
^ That's the one! She also covered a Rimi Natsukawa song. :)

There's alot of chinese singers covering Rimi natsukawa songs too...

Joi chua, a singaporean chinese singer

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fnIzXVMnd1Y#

Fish leong, a malaysia chinese singer and i think there's more....

LacusClyne 5th May 2009 12:57 PM

it depends on the country, if you are talking about Asia, Cpop is the king/queen. Afterall, most chinese listens to cpop more then jpop.

but i prefer the 90's cpop, more substance and longer lasting. My fav are Coco Lee, Jimmy Lin and Jolin, and the first 2 belongs to the 90's

ayu_fantasy 5th May 2009 05:42 PM

I mean the world... Not just a particular region, because different continents have different preference of music. But as a whole, cetain genre can be more influential than another. Coco lee, Elva Hsiao are not too bad... There's substance in their music...

As for Jolin Tsai, not exactly sure why is she even called "the dancing Queen" when her dance moves are not even half of BoA's standard.
There's nothing got to do with the ayuJolin thing, but Jolin alone just don't have the substance.

zyoeru 6th May 2009 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by ayu_fantasy (Post 1929441)
There's alot of chinese singers covering Rimi natsukawa songs too...

Joi chua, a singaporean chinese singer

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fnIzXVMnd1Y#

Fish leong, a malaysia chinese singer and i think there's more....

I like that! Chinese is really pretty. But there's just not enough artists which I can listen to and think "Wow, amazing!"
I like Jolin Tsai a little. But another thing is, I like to know what I'm listening to, and as I'm learning Japanese j-music is easier for me to listen to. But c-music makes me wanna learn Chinese. XD

njanjayrp 6th May 2009 10:28 PM

JPOP, I am not into Chinese music :)

TeeMo 7th May 2009 01:31 AM

J-Pop is much better than C-Pop... And of course J-pop is more influential.:)

Ayumiko 7th May 2009 02:12 AM

I'm chinese and I don't like chinese music. I hear them a lot on the radio and tv...the songs are really boring...mostly ballads, mid tempo songs or cover songs. Most of the time the lyrics sucks...no substance and lack quality. HK artists like all share the same few composers and lyricists. There are a few singers that can actually sing and have talent but overall Jpop is better for variety and quality.

Yum!Fruit_Salad! 7th May 2009 04:41 AM

J-Pop. You never really hear of a Chinese artist/band being invited to an anime convention or asked to join on a big tour like Warped Tour or Family Values or just touring by themselves. A lot of people who listen Asian music listen to J-Pop more than C-Pop, even K-Pop more than C-Pop.

mimi.chan 7th May 2009 05:11 AM

I love JPop more but I love CPop too... my fav. Cpop artists are Nicholas Teo, JJ Lin, BY2 etc...:P

pommy48 7th May 2009 06:47 AM

^ :luv2 BY2

but also about the anime conventions~ anime is mostly for japan anyways

ayumixfan 7th May 2009 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by emiko (Post 1928532)
Yeah.

I think even amongst like...some chinese people overseas, they don't even like chinese music because they feel that it's just bland and ordinary...

which is kinda how some of my chinese friends felt about alan...they said that there was nothing really special about her...that she could be replaced by any other chinese singer that sang in her style.

So I don't know...I really haven't been too exposed to chinese music...so...yeah.

^ I am one of those people that agree with ur friends haha. She may have a voice, but she can easily be replaced. Her style is very ordinary and often done in c-pop. I really think she should change styles and be more unique because she probably can do it.

I think its obvious Jpop is more influential around the world, but C-pop has its points too haha. I think C-pop is very underrated because its really nice, it just lacks variety if you compare it to the US and japanese industries.

AyumiBest 7th May 2009 11:13 AM

I used to REALLY like chinese music but after listening to one more chinese album I didn't like it anymore and Ayu took me to the land of J-pop.
I listen to C-pop every now and then but I only listen to the classics like Teresa Teng and Faye Wong. So I think J-pop is more influential.

mcluva420 8th May 2009 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by ayumixfan (Post 1931971)
^ I am one of those people that agree with ur friends haha. She may have a voice, but she can easily be replaced. Her style is very ordinary and often done in c-pop. I really think she should change styles and be more unique because she probably can do it.

I think its obvious Jpop is more influential around the world, but C-pop has its points too haha. I think C-pop is very underrated because its really nice, it just lacks variety if you compare it to the US and japanese industries.

my DAD agrees too O__O
the unique thing is.. how many cpop singers can wail AND graduate from some extremely competitive music academy, being totally pro at the erhu? shes a very unique musician. i dont really see much c-pop singers playing a stringed instrument for their official songs and singing.. once she writes more music, she'll be even more unique :yes

cosmeticmusic 11th May 2009 03:04 AM

All of you saying C-Pop is uninspiring and lifeless obviously haven't listened to Faye Wong. Have you heard her 90s albums?! AMAZING!

*Petit* 11th May 2009 09:19 AM

Whether or not certain singers are "uninspired" or bad doesen't really matter. I think it's pretty safe to say that japan has the most influence on the rest of the far east asian continent both for historical and economical reasons. The country has been the strongest economical force in the area basically since the MEJI restoration.

Wasen't alan the first chinese citizen to get a daily number one on the oricon recently?

pommy48 12th May 2009 06:01 AM

^ yeah, she broke faye wong's record

mcluva420 12th May 2009 07:03 AM

^WOOO!!! go alan! :luv2

keikeiaznqueen 12th May 2009 11:55 AM

In terms of the WORLD, then it's definitely Japanese music. No doubt in that. :P Just Ayu alone has a larger scope than any Chinese pop artist I know in her generation.

However, if you're speaking quantitatively, as in, in terms of how many followers or fans they have in total, I have to say that because China has such a large population, some Chinese musicians are really influential just in China alone. :P There's no real need for them to expand their target audience really.

And the points about mainstream Chinese music being bland and uninspired isn't exactly false. XD There's no real Ayu equivalent in Cpop, a musician that bears his or her soul in their lyrics! Just doesn't exist. IMO, everything feels really fake here, and the mainstream artists only go famous for a while and then fail afterwards. This doesn't apply to everyone as obviously there are some pretty classic artists here like Faye Wong and Teresa Teng... and hmm, Roman Tam, Sam Hui, etc etc. They're all part of the "oldies" though, except Faye Wong, haha.

Even if we're including Taiwan-pop into the equation (which is still Cpop I guess) I still hold my opinion. :P


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