^Sorry, but, much of those people going to the concert is because a) she represents Kpop, so they would go to the concert no matter the person performing and b) Blackjacks supported CL because she's was part of 2NE1, thus they thought supporting her, they were supporting the group.

SMTown was crowded, Epik High US Tour was crowded. They represent Kpop, it's not that CL is wonderful so that she can sell out tickets because she's so amazing.

CL career is a flop. She debuted already 985457 times and didn't suceed. Dr. Pepper was terrible, Hello Bitches didn't really make her more known and Lifted is pretty dated and got lukewarm response.

She performed on The Late Late Show? So what? Girls' Generation performed on Live with Kelly and Late Show with David Letterman and even so their efforts were fruitless in the US.

Not mentioning that YG played their fans. "Papa YG" knew very well that 2NE1 wasn't coming back when Minzy left, and they stated the 3 girls were working on new music, something that wasn't true. If it was true, there would be no reason not to release it before the end of their contracts. So YG used the fans unconditional support to CL's benefit. Do you really think that being a fan of the group translates into support a solo effort by a member? Tiffany from SNSD knows very well that's not true. Just look at her debut solo sales.

So your friends go wild when listening to Hello Bitches? again, so what? I Am The Best is huge here in Brazil, everybody dances to it in the clubs, but again, ask around to see if anyone invested in getting to know more of 2NE1? No one cares.

So, don't say CL is successful, queen of Kpop, or whatever, because she hasn't done anything noteworthy so far. At most, her english debut has been laughable. Don't forget that Utada Hikaru, BoA and the Wonder Girls conquered a lot more than her and they're nobody when it comes to fame in the US (not counting their previous supporters).

I think the image CL is trying to sell of her to the media is very wrong, misogynistic and xenophobic. I myself would be glad if she didn't suceed in her endeavors because she's not bringing anything new or positive to the table. But, oh well, we shall see.

^yeah, it is YG who is to blame and I can#t believe people just don't see that. Koreans attack idols for like everything, but how about blaming the management for once?

edit: ahtka-chan, you should check your facts! Your are obviously not objective at all. You did not like Dr. Pepper? oh well, i did + it was not even her song, it was a feature (and she had a skrillex song before). You think Lifted is dated? ohh too bad, many critics said it was the actual summer anthem - effortlessly and without trying. Hello bitches was a cool track, not meant as a debut, but rather as track for fans who keep supporting her and wait for the album, Yes, she takes her time, but as said by Louass, that is better than rushing things. Her instagram followers are increasing, her views are increasing, her celebrity fans get more - she did everything that was in her own power right so far. If you just want to bash her, you should maybe visit another place.

+ no one ever said she is the Queen of anything - and that is not the standard to measure things by at all.

CL is definitely not a flop in the US.:laugh
I would say she is doing good but not great. It's not like shes "the next big thing" but she is seeing decent success. Her English songs received mixed to positive reviews from fans and critics alike. She does have a following here and has connections to people in the US entertainment and fashion industries. Yes I am sure that some of the people who attended her concerts just like Kpop and wanted to be involved. But most of the people there went because they love 2ne1 and love CL.
CL has done things that have rubbed me the wrong way too. But nothing so bad that she is now a bad person.:laugh
For me personally, the only thing she has flopped with is her claiming she wants to be this big role model for Asian women. But when I see videos like Hello Bitches and the lyrics of Lifted, I don't really believe her.:no
As someone who is in America, I would say that CL is doing well for a foreign artist. The worst case scenario is that her debut album does okay and only maintains her current fanbase and does not garner mainstream success.

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So Rihanna gave CL a pair of her Manolo Blahniks and OMG NOW ALL I CAN THINK ABOUT IS HOW I BAD I WANT THEM TO COLLAB!
I knew CL had plenty of celebrity friends but I didn't even know she knew Rihanna? And they must be close-ish if she just sent her a pair of super expensive shoes that she designed, lol I doubt she's giving em to everyone.

Honestly if she had even a small feature in a Rihanna song, or vice versa, I would be the happiest man alive

(Sorry for the TRIPLE post now, lol but no one's posting here and I'm hella excited :shrug)

since Riri is the featuring-whore it might not be to far fetched

not gonna believe the rumour. YG's official statement said Dara and CL renewed their contracts, it means they still belong to YG and how are they supposed to make a new independent album? doesn't make sense.

it is rumoured that YG scrapped the album, because he didn't like it. they recorded like more than 15 songs.

I think they disbanded because everybody had different ambitions and wanted to go each their own way. the problem is that it works with BIG BANG, but he couldn't do the same for girls? wouldn't believe. Bom's scandal placed a big burden on them. and with Minzy being young and wanting to be active, wanting to leave, I can't see how he could have kept them all together. probably by making a new album for them, but he was too busy with iKON. he probably wasn't sure about BLACKPINK, but they did pretty decent, not a boom like, like 2ne1, but they did okay and won some awards, so he decided to scrap the old burden of the group.
He's very greedy and sexist, so don't expect much respect or involvement from his side, tbh.

SHE. DID. THAT! :luv2:luv2
I'm actually very impressed since it feels like forever since she performed and I never thought Dara would come out on stage with a performance like that, haha I was so scared she was gonna fall off the chairs, but she did so good.
Lowkey was hoping CL would come out for a second to rap her part of the song, lol It would've been so good, kinda like a fuck you to YG. Like sure we're disbanded but we're friends so that ain't stopping us

it is rumoured that the songs from the 2ne1 last album sans Minzy are actually those that BLACKPINK debuted with. which makes sense

i found out there were 3 different music videos for Gotta be you O_O it's my ultimate jam and i haven't heard about the other 2 videos earlier :no i feel so ashamed

original, japanese, dance version and one which is different from original (there's no guy parts + more Bom and Dara)

YG confirmed that 2NE1 is going to release their last song GOOD BYE (굿바이) on January 21st with music video filmed overseas. finally YG doing at least something for fans

i've been thinking about Bom a lot lately, i worry for her. she seems to be so fragile and i hope she will come back someday..

on the other hand - one thing that really bothers me about Bom in MAMA 15 is her nose. it looks horrible on that video and pictures taken in MAMA but a day after when she flew back to Korea her nose seems to be fine. and pictures she has been posting has beautiful nose. i can't stop thinking about it for some reason :D why is her nose so different on that one night :tired if you watch fancams (there is 4k quality as well), her nose is not that sharp in them at all :no i think that's creepy

Knowing YG, it's not guaranteed that the song will be released after all :laugh I'm not sure if I'm happy tbh, I'll definitely miss Minzy in the song :(

YG is a mess :/ Which is a shame, because I used to stan a lot of YG groups.

Guess they're gonna have to buy another demo for CL's 983475th debut in US.

that made me a bit worried and little sad tbh... so their last song for us is some CL leftover :no i find CL's US debuts not so good so far so that makes me worry what kind of track it is

i've been watching A LOT of old 2NE1 performances and i have noticed 2 thing. i never liked Minzy, her dances were not sexy (i think that was what she wanted them to look ending up just throwing her hair and twearking cheaply) and she tried too hard to be sexy which didn't fit her imo. second thing that really bothers me is that CL scream offkey over other girls all the fucking time and steal their moment in spot light :no i get that she is the big boss but why don't you let other sing like they let you.

that being said, song being CL song kinda makes me think that it's yet another CL feat. background girls :(

Well I've loved every song CL has dropped lately so at least now I have pretty high hopes for this one. Sucks that YG is slowing down her US album even more tho

I agree, I never really liked Minzy's dancing even from their debut. She was always promoted as the "best dancer" or whatever but there's so many girl groups with way better dancers, lol I think that's why she was trying so hard towards the end, CL was the leader and had a huge image as being a badass rapper, Bom was always the real talented vocals, and Dara is beautiful and can do no wrong, lol Minzy was always just kinda there, for me. Though her voice did sound very nice towards the end of 2NE1