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MissElin_ 26th October 2008 10:06 AM

Ayu have ALOT of money, she can afford to put in alot of money in making amazing PVs. And I love her for that! Cuz they often come out really amazing. Like fairyland. :heart
Then offcourse Ayu too can make simple PVs. HEAVEN is just one big clip but OMG so powerful! Love it.

I mean why this diskussion about her spending money on PVs? ITs her choise, they always comes out amazing, so no harm made. I mean, I adore Ayus PVs. Shes the one artist who always gives me amasing PVs. Even if i was misspleased with MW it was still better then many other PVs other artists make. :D

SURREAL__RAINBOW 26th October 2008 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by MissElin_ (Post 1678642)
I mean why this diskussion about her spending money on PVs? ITs her choise

YOU SAID IT!!!

:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D

freedreamer 26th October 2008 10:38 AM

fairyland was AWESOME goodness...sheeshh...
yea WADEVA..it's ONLY your opinion.. so doesn't matter..

GREEN AND Days are gonna use that money or just GREEN?..

o god im seriously gonna freak out if she is merging the two PVs again!!!!

i mean..choreography in China would mean Days is upbeat and its gonna link to GREEN..

sry if im slow...coz i was always expecting 2 seperate PVs..but SUDDENLY this struck me

Keiichi_JPU 26th October 2008 11:27 AM

I don't think she's merging two PV's. look at this:

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DVD Tracklist ("Days / GREEN ver.")

1. Days (PV)
2. GREEN (PV)
3. Days (Making Clip)
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DVD Tracklist ("GREEN / Days ver.")

1. GREEN (PV)
2. Days (PV)
3. GREEN (Making Clip)
Different track order, so she can't really have merged PV's. You can't play Fated before Glitter for example :)

@baby_ayumi: you really think Hikari impresses more people than Fairyland? As a huge Hikki fan myself, I think I'm safe to say Hikari is nothing (PV wise) compared to Fairyland. Of course, it's your opinion that Hikari is better, and I respect that. But I think you have to admit more people will think Fairyland is better.

And I don't think it's a waste of money at all, I love ayu's PV's!

Melrose 26th October 2008 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by ♛_baby_ayumi_♛ (Post 1678415)
:( i wish she wouldnt waste money on her music videos so much. no matter how much she spends, they always look the same and fail to impress anyone. fairyland was such a big waste of money. utada does best, she can take a video like hikari where she's just washing dishes and it comes off a lot better than ayumis expensive videos. she should spend her money on making better music instead. her albums since i am... have been decreasing in quality. she hasnt been the jpop queen for the longest time because of her standards.:no

Sorry but Hikki's known for her bad PVs. wtf is traveling about? JEWEL, Marionette, etc. etc. own those clips ANY day.

(And I like Hikki's music to but that's just the way.)

Ayu's high budget PVs DO tend to turn out the best IMO. Otherwise where does the money go?

freedreamer 26th October 2008 11:30 AM

^o yea...haha i forgot..YAY gd thing...
so now we really gotta see if both are as good as one another? lol

Melrose 26th October 2008 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by pommy408 (Post 1678604)
seriously?...they always impress me!!! and how do you think she can sell CD+DVD versions of her single and albums if she didn't have good enough of a PV to attract the people?
:thud...washing dishes is of course absolutely much better than seeing someone on beautiful beaches and the blue sky...:rolleyes



all the sparkling things in the PV was fake, they were swarovski crystals..so they're expensive, especially when you have a set full of them X_X

Hmm why was my name's WOMEN so expensive then? Just some choreography, bg set and random ppl.

Jwiz 26th October 2008 11:40 AM

^ Something to do with the venue i guess, coupled with the special effects, choreography (may cost a bomb), the huge numbers of people involved, and expensive outfits.

Meat Pao 26th October 2008 12:05 PM

Especially hiring the Caucasians must have costed a bomb :o

tourniquet 26th October 2008 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Melrose (Post 1678705)
Sorry but Hikki's known for her bad PVs. wtf is traveling about? JEWEL, Marionette, etc. etc. own those clips ANY day.

(And I like Hikki's music to but that's just the way.)

Ayu's high budget PVs DO tend to turn out the best IMO. Otherwise where does the money go?

omg, how can someone seriously be so ignorant. look at the songtext of traveling and you understand, and even without, the PV is very fitting to the song name. what the hell is JEWEL about? about ayu sitting in bling bling? ayu understands to hide her messages in nonsensical PVs which show of her beauty but nothing else usually. lately, I was especially disappointed by Together When...'s PV. omg, poor ayu, crying again fake tears. seen that before.

Marionette was her only good PV from the GUILTY era imho.

but hikki's PVs lately suck too. but at least she has some really artistic **** like traveling, SAKURA Drops, Deep River, Keep Tryin' and Passion. I love how fitting they are to her music.

ayumisrael 26th October 2008 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by ♛_baby_ayumi_♛ (Post 1678415)
:( i wish she wouldnt waste money on her music videos so much. no matter how much she spends, they always look the same and fail to impress anyone. fairyland was such a big waste of money. utada does best, she can take a video like hikari where she's just washing dishes and it comes off a lot better than ayumis expensive videos. she should spend her money on making better music instead. her albums since i am... have been decreasing in quality... . she hasnt been the jpop queen for the longest time because of her standards.:no

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Originally Posted by ♛_baby_ayumi_♛ (Post 1678415)
you answered it yourself.. i just dont like her old albums and new singles.. i want ayumi to go back to her secret and (miss)understood days.. it was so exciting back then, her singles always made me unable to wait. now though i hardly bother..

Contradiction. So which album of her do you like? x_x

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Originally Posted by ♛_baby_ayumi_♛ (Post 1678493)
shes been doing that all this time with her singles. they all sound the same with each other. talking 2 myself, inspire, deicision, memorial address, no way to say, momentum all sound like they were made in the same day. if she can go back making boring rock songs, why cant she return to making really good muisc like RAINBOW and voyage again?? she has been slacking in the industry, and her sales will keep on falling until she does something good again. look at namie, she managed to save her career. unfortunately ayumi doesnt seemto be able to becuase she stopped being creative.

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Originally Posted by ♛_baby_ayumi_♛ (Post 1678426)
im her fan for her music, not her image.. :D if i dont like her music i wont be the fan of an album. those albums are all very poorly made, thats why i think she doesnt deserve it.

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Originally Posted by ♛_baby_ayumi_♛ (Post 1678414)
those are some of her worst albums, they dont deserve to be in the list. i cant imagine any fan buying them and ever listening to them :no: rainbow especially, its extremely bad. they only sold well because she was very popular and it was considered cool to have her cds back then.


This is the gist of whatever you wrote since you are in AHS you ayu troll.
A word of advice, don't waste your life in hating ayu :P lol.
Hopefully you will be banned soon.

Anyway all of her high budget PVs are great (fairyland, JEWEL, my name's WOMEN) so hopefully GREEN will be great as them.

♛_baby_ayumi_♛ 26th October 2008 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by ayumisrael (Post 1678765)
This is the gist of whatever you wrote since you are in AHS you ayu troll.
A word of advice, don't waste your life in hating ayu :P lol.
Hopefully you will be banned soon.

is this how you people handle comments against ayumi? by bashing me for it and calling me a troll? im shocked at the response ive been getting here just from a few comments against ayumi.

A word of advice, don't waste your life hating me. It's you who need to be banned, bullying new members and bashing other peoples comments. just cos you blindly vow to love all her songs doesnt make your opinions superior to mine.

ayumisrael 26th October 2008 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by ♛_baby_ayumi_♛ (Post 1678776)
is this how you people handle comments against ayumi? by bashing me for it and calling me a troll? im shocked at the response ive been getting here just from a few comments against ayumi.

A word of advice, don't waste your life hating me. It's you who need to be banned, bullying new members and bashing other peoples comments. just cos you blindly vow to love all her songs doesnt make your opinions superior to mine.

That's how we handle people that coming here only to say bad things about her and he/she doesn't like anything she does. And since you only post such things, it's not the forum for you.

prussian blue 26th October 2008 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by meatpao (Post 1678734)
Especially hiring the Caucasians must have costed a bomb :o

i wonder if hiring them really cause a lot of money? i thought its just like hiring model for a fashion show, but i dont think it will cost until 1 million, right?

njanjayrp 26th October 2008 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by ayumisrael (Post 1678785)
That's how we handle people that coming here only to say bad things about her and he/she doesn't like anything she does. And since you only post such things, it's not the forum for you.

I know what you're saying and I am really ok with it, as else AHS would turn into Ayu's Last.fm shout box, but I don't think _baby_ayumi_ deserves to be banned just based on this, at least not yet.

@_baby_ayumi_ - you have to understand that most of us here are really big fans, and even though we know everyone has the right to think what they want, it annoys us when people bash Ayu in any way and believe it or not some of us do like all of her songs a lot. I don't have a thing against you tough, but your comments are really negative, and as Ayumisreal said, none of your comments were positive, if you don't like anything about her there is no point in posting in this part of the forum :)

tokyoxjapanxfan 26th October 2008 01:54 PM

ummm isn't it avex's money? not ayu's? i don't think she spends her own money on pv's o_o. and it would be awesome if the pv is 1.6 mil xD but...i dont want a joined pv...

ayumisrael 26th October 2008 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by tokyoxjapanxfan (Post 1678801)
ummm isn't it avex's money? not ayu's? i don't think she spends her own money on pv's o_o. and it would be awesome if the pv is 1.6 mil xD but...i dont want a joined pv...

Don't worry it won't be joined since both versions DVDs have

1. Days PV
2. GREEN PV

or

1. GREEN PV
2. Days PV

If it would be connected it would be called xxxx ~xxxx~ (Days/GREEN or GREEN/Days).

XD

maikaru 26th October 2008 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by tourniquet (Post 1678762)
omg, how can someone seriously be so ignorant. look at the songtext of traveling and you understand, and even without, the PV is very fitting to the song name. what the hell is JEWEL about? about ayu sitting in bling bling? ayu understands to hide her messages in nonsensical PVs which show of her beauty but nothing else usually. lately, I was especially disappointed by Together When...'s PV. omg, poor ayu, crying again fake tears. seen that before.

Marionette was her only good PV from the GUILTY era imho.

but hikki's PVs lately suck too. but at least she has some really artistic **** like traveling, SAKURA Drops, Deep River, Keep Tryin' and Passion. I love how fitting they are to her music.

How can YOU be so ignorance???

The whole thing about JEWEL is she is talking about her "treasure," in the last line, she says "My important treasure."
I think it only makes sense for her to be in a winterland of treasures, if she is talking about that.
She is talking about how her treasure made her feel peace and kindness, and she is peacefully and looking kind in the PV.
So I don't know what's the problem of JEWEL...

Did you wanna her to be happy and dancing in Together When...?
How do you know it's a fake? Can you know her real emotions?

Out of all the pv you mention, I think Marionette is the one with least meaning, yet you wanna say its the best? I'm so confused at what kind of pv you like.

don't leave me alone's pv was so good too... except the pants.. ahaha
She was saying how she changes to adapt to things with the change ties,
And how she must always find ways for her to make things feel less hurtful.

I think maybe you gotta re-think about it..
I find a lot of the times Utada Hikaru has really bad pvs.
Much worse than Ayumi. (like Heart Station? Prisoner of Love? ._.); )

I just think you should stop making bad talk about someone which a bbs is dedicated to..
You can take your extreme criticisms of her somewhere who hates her.
Because obviously, people her will defend her so much, so no points.

unless you wanna stir trouble~ LOL

njanjayrp 26th October 2008 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by maikaru (Post 1678806)
How can YOU be so ignorance???

The whole thing about JEWEL is she is talking about her "treasure," in the last line, she says "My important treasure."
I think it only makes sense for her to be in a winterland of treasures, if she is talking about that.
She is talking about how her treasure made her feel peace and kindness, and she is peacefully and looking kind in the PV.
So I don't know what's the problem of JEWEL...

Did you wanna her to be happy and dancing in Together When...?
How do you know it's a fake? Can you know her real emotions?

Out of all the pv you mention, I think Marionette is the one with least meaning, yet you wanna say its the best? I'm so confused at what kind of pv you like.

don't leave me alone's pv was so good too... except the pants.. ahaha
She was saying how she changes to adapt to things with the change ties,
And how she must always find ways for her to make things feel less hurtful.

I think maybe you gotta re-think about it..
I find a lot of the times Utada Hikaru has really bad pvs.
Much worse than Ayumi. (like Heart Station? Prisoner of Love? ._.); )

I just think you should stop making bad talk about someone which a bbs is dedicated to..
You can take your extreme criticisms of her somewhere who hates her.
Because obviously, people her will defend her so much, so no points.

unless you wanna stir trouble~ LOL

Sometimes it's hard to understand Ayu's PVs if you don't understand the lyrics.
Hikki's PVs were cool back in the days when she was married. The pre-Deep River ones, and post UB ones suck terribly and that's a fact ^^, not just a matter of opinion XD

ayumisrael 26th October 2008 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by maikaru (Post 1678806)
How can YOU be so ignorance???

The whole thing about JEWEL is she is talking about her "treasure," in the last line, she says "My important treasure."
I think it only makes sense for her to be in a winterland of treasures, if she is talking about that.
She is talking about how her treasure made her feel peace and kindness, and she is peacefully and looking kind in the PV.
So I don't know what's the problem of JEWEL...

Did you wanna her to be happy and dancing in Together When...?
How do you know it's a fake? Can you know her real emotions?

Out of all the pv you mention, I think Marionette is the one with least meaning, yet you wanna say its the best? I'm so confused at what kind of pv you like.

don't leave me alone's pv was so good too... except the pants.. ahaha
She was saying how she changes to adapt to things with the change ties,
And how she must always find ways for her to make things feel less hurtful.

I think maybe you gotta re-think about it..
I find a lot of the times Utada Hikaru has really bad pvs.
Much worse than Ayumi. (like Heart Station? Prisoner of Love? ._.);)

I just think you should stop making bad talk about someone which a bbs is dedicated to..
You can take your extreme criticisms of her somewhere who hates her.
Because obviously, people her will defend her so much, so no points.

unless you wanna stir trouble~ LOL

oh I love you XDD.
Your posts are always so cute ^-^.

Anyway it's always easy to say that ayu fans are to defending and then write hikki's PVs are the best, I like them better than ayu. Like they defend hikki and it's ok but when people defend ayu it's not.

It's also always easy to find meanings in hikki's PVs and excuse ayu's just for beauty and divaish meanings and not find the true meanings behind them and ayu's crying is always fake while it's a PV and I say - even if she had to fake it, it was for the actual PV who cares if it's fake or not it's for a story/meaningful PV! (and all that because they don't really care for ayu's PVs, but they will care for hikki's even if the whole PV is only about recording a song or sitting in a train which I'm sure they have some meaning in but still not one of her best or interesting PVs.. imo).
Ugh.

I hate those comparisons, they always get the worst of fans (both's fans).
And I also don't like fans of someone who pop somewhere and say "x PVs are better/worst than x" all of a sudden, like our new forum friend did.


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