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Evolution7/4 24th March 2010 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by all.night.raver (Post 2291043)
Ok, nobody can deny that this PV really does scream GaGa. Seriously. It's not necessarily a bad thing, but it's totally GaGa.

Exactly. Nothing wrogn with it. In fact its a good thing cuz I love them both. Shes not ripping her off, its just a very coutoure video and many of the outfits she wore.

Zeke. 24th March 2010 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Anna Willow (Post 2291057)
Making a collage of other people's ideas is not what I think of as creativity.


Even the lightning painted on Gaga's face is a carbon-copy of Bowie.
And I wouldn't say "frightened" more than "annoyed" and "fed up".

And like I said before, people that look at this and think about no-one besides Gaga probably are too young to understand who really is a standard for pop culture and originality. That's my point, period.


This.

Ok well I highly doubt that it's coincidence that GaGa is inspired by Bowie and that period and then all of a sudden Ayu is inspired by that same period. This is a pointless argument because it seems people here on AHS would deny that this PV was inspired by GaGa even if Ayu herself said "YEAH I LOVE GAGA. SHE INSPIRES ME." :rolleyes

Besides, she didn't direct the PV. Maybe the director thought this would be a good thing for Ayu to try.

kumikomishitate 24th March 2010 07:40 PM

I dare anyone to list any artist who has never drawn inspiration from any other artist. If you even want to go to the fundamentals of it all, we can even complain how musicians aren't original because they don't invent their own instruments every god damn time. OMG he's using a guitar? HE'S COPYING EVERYONE ELSE WHO HAS PREVIOUSLY USED A GUITAR! OMG BOY BANDS ARE COPYING THE BEATLES! OMG LADY GAGA IS COPYING MADONNA/DAVID BOWIE BECAUSE SHE'S NOT COPYING EVERYONE ELSE, AND ANYONE WHO IS DIFFERENT IS OBVIOUSLY CHANNELING MADONNA. OMG AYUMI IS COPYING LADY GAGA BECAUSE SHE INCORPORATED ALEXANDER MCQUEEN IN HER PV!

Argh!!!

/rant.

ILoveGeniuses 24th March 2010 07:40 PM

No matter where Ayu got these ideas I'm always happy with Ayu, her life, her courage, her strength, her lyrics etc. All that has made me feel stronger and has helped me through some of the absolute worst experiences and situations of my life. It's always inspired me and gave me the strength to get through everything. I think if i didn't have her I never would've made it through some very horrible things I experienced.

So i honestly could care less where she got the ideas from as long as she keeps being that hero and wonderful person we all know we wanna be ourselves.

GRACE 24th March 2010 07:43 PM

you know, Ayu probably doesn't even know who Lady GaGa IS, her inspiration probably came from something or someone she actually listened to. Hell, it was more likely the director's inspiration, and Ayu just said "Hey, that's really cool!!" and okayed it...

Anna Willow 24th March 2010 07:43 PM

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Ok well I highly doubt that it's coincidence that GaGa is inspired by Bowie and that period and then all of a sudden Ayu is inspired by that same period.
Yeah, 'cause Ayu just started to put a spotlight on fashion in her PVs now, right. Jeez.

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This is a pointless argument because it seems people here on AHS would deny that this PV was inspired by GaGa even if Ayu herself said "YEAH I LOVE GAGA. SHE INSPIRES ME."
I don't think it was inspired by Gaga more than fashion itself and other fashionist artists, but who knows? Personally I think Ayu knows better than the latest hitmaker from US, but we can't know what she'd say about it.

I'm just fed up with people thinking Gaga invented something, and especially annoyed when they start comparing other artists to her, especially other artists that are in the business for like a gazillion years more than Gaga. It's like she's brainwashing people.

Great point here, though:

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No matter where Ayu got these ideas I'm always happy with Ayu, her life, her courage, her strength, her lyrics etc. All that has made me feel stronger and has helped me through some of the absolute worst experiences and situations of my life. It's always inspired me and gave me the strength to get through everything. I think if i didn't have her I never would've made it through some very horrible things I experienced.

So i honestly could care less where she got the ideas from as long as she keeps being that hero and wonderful person we all know we wanna be ourselves.

love in music 24th March 2010 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by all.night.raver (Post 2291043)
Ok, nobody can deny that this PV really does scream GaGa. Seriously. It's not necessarily a bad thing, but it's totally GaGa.

I'm right here, denying it... :yes

Zeke. 24th March 2010 07:44 PM

Being "creatively inspired" by and "copying" are two totally different things! Saying this looks GaGa is not bad-mouthing Ayu. So no need for everyone to get defensive. Lol. I must say when other comparisons to GaGa have come up, I too brushed them off. But this time it's literally right there.
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Originally Posted by SoldierofSilence (Post 2291069)
So i honestly could care less where she got the ideas from as long as she keeps being that hero and wonderful person we all know we wanna be ourselves.

:yes I could care less where she got them from too. It's just irking me to no end how everyone is taking these Lady GaGa comparisons as bullets to Ayu's reputation.

ILoveGeniuses 24th March 2010 07:54 PM

^yeah i can understand. Still, I've found people do this with whatever's the latest thing. I've seen it happen a million times by now. I usually just sit by and watch from the sidelines for the most part.

What i do find funny is when they say something is ripping off something else, when the thing theyre talking about came out before the other if you know what i mean.

GRACE 24th March 2010 07:59 PM

uuugh trolls on youtube lol

oh well :3 I bet PVs will start airing next week, and we'll get an album CM at the end of this/beginning of next week. CM before the PVs air I'd think. I hope it has a preview from every PV like NEXT LEVEL, and not just a behind the scenes of something and some single tracks like (miss)understood's CM was (using (m)u as an example because of the similar amount of PVs)

kumikomishitate 24th March 2010 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by GRACE (Post 2291072)
you know, Ayu probably doesn't even know who Lady GaGa IS, her inspiration probably came from something or someone she actually listened to. Hell, it was more likely the director's inspiration, and Ayu just said "Hey, that's really cool!!" and okayed it...

:S I'm pretty sure Ayu does occasionally turn on the radio. And Lady GaGa's albums have been doing quite well in Japan... so it is doubtful that somebody within the music industry has yet to hear of a current phenomenon.

But again, I doubt Ayumi thought "Let's copy Lady Gaga!" I really don't see the problem with simply incorporating a bit of London-esque high fashion in her PVs. The music video industry has been around since the 1980s; you cannot have a completely unique music video each and every time. So, people should just learn to embrace individual representations of at times similar themes in these videos.

And like others have said, I really don't see being compared to Lady GaGa as a bad thing. They are both talented and sexy. Let them do their thing~

ILoveGeniuses 24th March 2010 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by kumikomishitate (Post 2291096)

And like others have said, I really don't see being compared to Lady GaGa as a bad thing. They are both talented and sexy. Let them do their thing~

i honestly dont find lady gaga sexy whatsoever. her fashion is ugly and i was really turned off when she said that something about wanting to sleep with like every rock star. The only thing i admire about her is about how she stands by the gay/lesbian community.

Max_ZZZ 24th March 2010 08:18 PM

^ LOL AMEN '-___- sorry i'm not hating but then we might as well call ayu a phase and stop listening LOL

ILoveGeniuses 24th March 2010 08:27 PM

theres no sound...

ayufan- 24th March 2010 08:28 PM

hello i want the video from lady dynamite now, i think it's gonna be awsome!

JackieRos 24th March 2010 08:32 PM

sexy little things screams alexander mcqueen yay!

amorphose 24th March 2010 08:35 PM

I absolutely love Microphone. count down sounds wonderful, as well, and Lady Dynamite sounds really good, too! :D I want to like Sexy little things. I'm not sure whether I do or not yet. Half of me says it's really cool and the other half says it's embarrassing and frightening.

ayufan- 24th March 2010 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by amorphose (Post 2291139)
I absolutely love Microphone. count down sounds wonderful, as well, and Lady Dynamite sounds really good, too! :D I want to like Sexy little things. I'm not sure whether I do or not yet. Half of me says it's really cool and the other half says it's embarrassing and frightening.

I like all the songs too! In my opinion count down is the worst song from the new album, from the previews we have heard. But i love Lady Dynamite and Sexy Little things, it is a bit next level album style don''t you think?

ILoveGeniuses 24th March 2010 08:46 PM

^i havent heard LD or count down yet....

Actually, funny thing, but the earliest previews i heard of "my name's WOMEN" i didn't like, but then when i heard the full song I loved it.

ストロボ・EdGE 24th March 2010 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by kumikomishitate (Post 2291068)
I dare anyone to list any artist who has never drawn inspiration from any other artist. If you even want to go to the fundamentals of it all, we can even complain how musicians aren't original because they don't invent their own instruments every god damn time. OMG he's using a guitar? HE'S COPYING EVERYONE ELSE WHO HAS PREVIOUSLY USED A GUITAR!

Haha, I love you!!

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Originally Posted by GRACE (Post 2291072)
you know, Ayu probably doesn't even know who Lady GaGa IS, her inspiration probably came from something or someone she actually listened to. Hell, it was more likely the director's inspiration, and Ayu just said "Hey, that's really cool!!" and okayed it...

You know... that's a possibility. She didn't even know of Tohoshinki until the other day. They're from the same record label and selling way better than her in her own country and she didn't even know about them...


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