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Isthan 26th October 2008 03:19 PM

Hmm...

I'm not fan of Utada Hikaru, I've listened only couple of her songs. I just watched Hikari and I think it was nice and cute. I like glam PVs, like Ayu's JEWEL, but I also like these "normal life" -PVs.

As for Ayu, she has an amazing variety of PVs, there's something for everyone. So it's really up to your personal tastes. For GREEN and Days, I don't really have any particular wishes... suprise us, Ayu!

Melrose 26th October 2008 03:34 PM

@maikaru: I agree with you

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Originally Posted by tourniquet (Post 1678762)
omg, how can someone seriously be so ignorant. look at the songtext of traveling and you understand, and even without, the PV is very fitting to the song name. what the hell is JEWEL about? about ayu sitting in bling bling? ayu understands to hide her messages in nonsensical PVs which show of her beauty but nothing else usually. lately, I was especially disappointed by Together When...'s PV. omg, poor ayu, crying again fake tears. seen that before.

Marionette was her only good PV from the GUILTY era imho.

Ignorant..because I don't like Hikki's PV? While you don't like Ayu's PVs because you can't understand the symbolism, and just call it diva-ish and looking pretty? Hmmm ok! lol~
With "what's it about?" I didn't mean it literally, but as a figure of speech like "why is it so messed up/freaky/ugly?". But still, not understanding an PV, I'd hardly call that ignorant. XD

But anyway LOL that's kind of contradictory, don't you think? Saying that traveling's PV fits the song's title, but that JEWEL's PV makes no sense. Umm, there are JEWELS in the PV? Not to mention that it also suits the lyrics.

Most of Hikki's PVs just give the impression that they lacked skill with making it and they just threw it into "LOLZ lets make it look all weird and messed up and call it artistic! Let's put a lot of people in a train thingie with weird colors and costumes!". She should'a let someone else do the PVs than her "awesome" ex. But then again I haven't seen ALL her PVs. I do really like the Passion PV and Keep Tryin' is kinda cute, though.

As for Together When, I would prefer Ayu's "moving" PVs anyday over Hikki's. Be My Last and Dareka are just so cheesy that it's ridiculous. The hit-with-the-car-scene was like wtf? It looked like a parody on the real PV (if there had been one). o_X PVs like HEAVEN and rainy day are just gorgeously fragile and moving..But that's my personal preference. After having done a take 10 times, who can really cry that perfectly? Maybe her crying just isn't that movie-style-pretty-pretty.

And actually I'm not just a fan of PRETTY PVs, because I did rather like the way they incorperated the chorus and verse timings and the turning on/off of the water crane at Hikari's PV. But it was still so boring lol.

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but hikki's PVs lately suck too. but at least she has some really artistic **** like traveling, SAKURA Drops, Deep River, Keep Tryin' and Passion. I love how fitting they are to her music.
Forgetting Ayu's Endless sorrow, RAINBOW, etc.?

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Anyway it's always easy to say that ayu fans are to defending and then write hikki's PVs are the best, I like them better than ayu. Like they defend hikki and it's ok but when people defend ayu it's not.
Hahaha~ EXACTLY!

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like our new forum friend did.
Would that be me? .____.

Anyways BACK ON TOPIC. XD I can't wait for GREEN and Days. XD

waterballoon 26th October 2008 03:38 PM

I seriously feel like slapping anyone who thinks that fairyland's PV was bad. To me, fairyland, both the song and PV, has a very deep and special meaning to me.

@ baby_ayumi: It would be better if you stop contradicting yourself in your posts. Seriously, if you're not a fan (seeing as how you enjoy bashing Ayu so much; go back to your Hikki forum), then why are you even here? No one's asking you to be devoted to Ayu and love every song and PV she puts out, but, your posts... doesn't seem like you enjoy any bit of Ayu's music.

Her PVs are all fantastic to me. Sometimes, reading the lyrics alongside watching the PV makes you read more into the PV. That's the feeling I always get. This was a really unneeded argument in the first place, so... yeah. Peace out.

Melrose 26th October 2008 03:44 PM

^

fairyland was a GREAT PV ^__^ The burning of the photos, the scene in the water, etc.! A great variation on the standard dancing-on-the-peach PVs

LEOyumi 26th October 2008 03:46 PM

The high budget Ayu PVs turn out to be pretty boring imo. Just like fairyland and Mirrorcle World. Sometimes the not so high ones are better, like 1 LOVE, alterna, Ladies Night, Endless Sorrow, RAINBOW, Marionette.. They probably weren't cheap as well, but not as expensive as the other ones..

And I think Hikki has awesome PVs as well, at the same time she has some really boring ones. Heart Station is horrible, and I like these types os PVs that nothing happen (like HEAVEN, that's great xD). But Be My Last, Passion and Keep Tryin', for example, are ones I think are marvelous.

Well, anyway.. In general I think Ayu's PVs are better, but Hikki's ones are good too. =P

ayumisrael 26th October 2008 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Melrose (Post 1678848)

Would that be me? .____.

Anyways BACK ON TOPIC. XD I can't wait for GREEN and Days. XD

I meant to ♛_baby_ayumi_♛ XD.

and me too! I really want to know how Days sounds like!

waterballoon 26th October 2008 03:55 PM

Will Days leak anytime soon? I can't wait for it either!

kumikomishitate 26th October 2008 03:59 PM

All this bashing is ridiculous. .___.

Personally, I prefer Hikki's music (hides) even though I am more of an Ayu fan. I think Hikki has better quality music and although not all of her PVs are great, she does have quite a few that I cannot imagine Ayu ever making.

On the other hand, Ayu is great too. She releases often and generally has good music. Not as experimental as some others but I tend to love her albums. And she does have a decent amount of great videos out there but just because it's got a tiny little bit a symbolism doesn't mean that it's epic artistic masterpiece. I really like in depth symbolism which is why I really like MW but I wouldn't see Hikki pulling out a Glitter PV, get what I mean? If one of them comes out with an equivalent to Glass Skin by Dir en grey, I'll be freaken happy because that's great symbolism that none of them has ever come close to. :)

I don't understand why fans of Ayumi or Hikki hate each other so much. They are both good artists and don't deserve any of this bashing. And for Christ's sake, don't get so hyped up when somebody doesn't worship Ayu. .___. Some "I don't agree because so and so" is perfectly fine but what's up with the threats of banning?

U-GO-BOY 26th October 2008 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Melrose (Post 1678848)
Be My Last and Dareka are just so cheesy that it's ridiculous.

hey the PV to Dareka is connected with the movie Casshern! So it actually HAS a meaning that it's so cheesy >.<"

Raiu-Ayu 26th October 2008 05:01 PM

WOAH! Whats up with all the bashing? Seriously this is not the place to discuss this crap. If you all wanna fight go somewhere else. I'll just say one thing: does baby_ayumi remind anyone else of baby_utada who was banned for posting crap in the Koda Kumi threads about Utada being better than anyone??

I can't wait until I hear the full version of GREEN. The preview just makes me love it more!! It sounds so dramatic!!

kiseki89 26th October 2008 05:04 PM

Have been MIA for 2 weeks... so need a little clarification.
The new single is called Days/GREEN or GREEN/Days or both as stated in the 1st post? Coz the official site has only stated Days/GREEN... but I'm not sure it's for both versions or just one of them like what the 1st post has stated

ayumisrael 26th October 2008 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Raiu-Ayu (Post 1678916)
WOAH! Whats up with all the bashing? Seriously this is not the place to discuss this crap. If you all wanna fight go somewhere else. I'll just say one thing: does baby_ayumi remind anyone else of baby_utada who was banned for posting crap in the Koda Kumi threads about Utada being better than anyone??

I can't wait until I hear the full version of GREEN. The preview just makes me love it more!! It sounds so dramatic!!

It's either Baby Utada (which I doubt she is) or someone from AHS who got another account and trying to imitate her trying to make fool of us while she is bashing and dislike every ayu album, single or whatever. Anyway I hope it stops.

I want to hear how Days sounds because we didn't hear anything from it yet XD. GREEN already sound going good. I love the orientalness.

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Originally Posted by kiseki89 (Post 1678917)
Have been MIA for 2 weeks... so need a little clarification.
The new single is called Days/GREEN or GREEN/Days or both as stated in the 1st post? Coz the official site has only stated Days/GREEN... but I'm not sure it's for both versions or just one of them like what the 1st post has stated

It's Days/GREEN! ^_^

It just got 2 versions Days/GREEN, and GREEN/Days where tracklist 10th anniversary songs versions and making offs are different but the main title is Days/GREEN.

Suteisi 26th October 2008 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by kiseki89 (Post 1678917)
Have been MIA for 2 weeks... so need a little clarification.
The new single is called Days/GREEN or GREEN/Days or both as stated in the 1st post? Coz the official site has only stated Days/GREEN... but I'm not sure it's for both versions or just one of them like what the 1st post has stated

If you look on CDJapan: http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/list_from_c...tml?key=246497

You can see the single has two versions.

Days/GREEN and GREEN/Days

I thought the same as you since the website doesn't show any difference, but when I came around to order them, the difference was clear between the titles.

Melrose 26th October 2008 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Zelda-Maker (Post 1678882)
hey the PV to Dareka is connected with the movie Casshern! So it actually HAS a meaning that it's so cheesy >.<"

Wait, what? So because Dareka is connected to a movie, it's cheesy? o_O But..I said it's cheesy? I didn't say it didn't have a meaning. ^^;

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Originally Posted by ayumisrael (Post 1678867)
I meant to ♛_baby_ayumi_♛ XD.

and me too! I really want to know how Days sounds like!

Ooh ok! ^^

Kikaru 26th October 2008 06:23 PM

1.5 mil? Combined or for a single PV?

As for the Ayu vs. Hikki PV debate...ehh, they both got their share of good ones, and their share of crappy ones. Personally I yawned through the Hikari PV (I honestly don't feel like watching someone doing dishes. I see that everyday already at home), and I think DR is where she hit her stride, PV-wise. On the other hand, I found MW dull (although the art history nerd in me loved the architecture and the surroundings)

It's a toss-up, honestly. I don't expect any artist to constantly making good PVs throughout their career. PV, in the end, is just another form of promotion and marketing strategy. It's about target audience and etc...

I wonder how much of the budget was actually for traveling and renting the place for filming...Seeing that everything has gone up lately...Seeing that I think most of Fairyland PV cost are probably in able to buy/rent a place and allow it to burn down and all the security around that.

Max_ZZZ 26th October 2008 06:47 PM

IM SO ANXIOUS FOR THE FULL OF GREEN
when might it be leaked
most songs are exactly a month before... but someone said something about fairyland being 2 months early?

MissElin_ 26th October 2008 06:49 PM

Does anyone have any clues of how Days will sound like? Ballad, up-beat, rockish?

VAL 26th October 2008 07:28 PM

I hope Days will be a Up-beat song ! :)

waterballoon 26th October 2008 07:32 PM

On the contrary, I hope Days will be a ballad. For one, her last A-side ballad single was HEAVEN, which was like 3 years ago?. Besides, GREEN sounds more like a dark-ish rock ballad to me, not something she would perform in Kouhaku, but meh, I will enjoy whatever she puts out (provided if it's good, which it has to be!)

pommy48 26th October 2008 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Melrose (Post 1678707)
Hmm why was my name's WOMEN so expensive then? Just some choreography, bg set and random ppl.

i asked this before and it's because they didn't rent the set, they built from scratch


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