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truehappiness 21st November 2009 09:02 AM

After seeing some people at 2ch mention it, I wonder if they'll switch out the "Christmas card" extra for those who purchase it at mu-mo, since the switch to the 29th makes it completely useless, haha. Perhaps it's proof that there was no intention on moving the single to a later date... but then again, they could make it into a New Year's card or something, right?

SunshineSlayer 21st November 2009 09:03 AM

^ Yeah, that is pretty much further proof. I didn't know about the Christmas card thing; that would have been cool.

Linoa62 21st November 2009 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by AyUmIXx (Post 2162850)
guys..Ayu is not going to attend FNS right?

We don't know yet. FNS site is adding artists one by one. Tohoshinki were added this morning for example. I think Ayu will be announced soon, just check the site from time to time XD

yuki_unmei 21st November 2009 09:14 AM

FNS is the same thing as Kouhaku right?

SunshineSlayer 21st November 2009 09:47 AM

^ No. Totally different. There are several end of the year shows in Japan. FNS is one of the major ones.

Yoake 21st November 2009 10:24 AM

omg the covers are really nice but she is weird on the promo pic O.o

yuki_unmei 21st November 2009 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by SunshineSlayer (Post 2162884)
^ No. Totally different. There are several end of the year shows in Japan. FNS is one of the major ones.

ah ok thanks
was getting confused by that

njanjayrp 21st November 2009 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by SunshineSlayer (Post 2162839)
^ There are plenty of non-JE people that get major tie ins too. :) And a lot of the people that do have major tie ins, don't necessarily need them to sell well either, but they do need them to sell like stratospherically high though. Like B'z didn't exactly need Buzzer Beat for Ichibu to Zenbu to sell well; it would have anyways. But having a successful drama tied with it made it sell even better. Same thing with Ayu probably. Everything else I agree with though. Still though, Ayu having a major tie in for once would be nice. Dandy Daddy though not a huge hit drama was at least a step in that direction. It didn't seem to have a positive effect on her physical sales though maybe it is what helped drive the digital sales.

No no no, you got it wrong, I meant that it seems that major tie-ins are usually (and mostly) the dramas featuring the JE people :) (and I mean no disrespect)

Considering that B'z's 2008 singles couldn't clear 200k either and that their last album barely sold 320k, I'd say yes the song needed a tie-in, else I really doubt it would sell close to the amounts it did. Sure I'd like seeing Ayu get a tie-in like that someday :)

kiseki89 21st November 2009 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by yuki_unmei (Post 2162943)
ah ok thanks
was getting confused by that

kouhaku is the red white competition... a live competition guys vs girls

SunshineSlayer 21st November 2009 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by njanjayrp (Post 2162953)

Considering that B'z's 2008 singles couldn't clear 200k either and that their last album barely sold 320k, I'd say yes the song needed a tie-in, else I really doubt it would sell close to the amounts it did. Sure I'd like seeing Ayu get a tie-in like that someday :)

I used B'z as an example because you said Ayu didn't need a tie in to sell well. B'z single sales last year are comprable to Ayu's - in fact they only had one single last year and it just barely outsold Ayu's last year. So if Ayu's non tied in drama singles are considered selling well enough, then B'z sales as well should also be considered selling well enough is what I mean. :) But just like many artists that don't need a tie in to sell well, the tie in - if good - can make it sell a lot more. Don't know if how I just explained it made any sense though.

njanjayrp 21st November 2009 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by SunshineSlayer (Post 2163038)
I used B'z as an example because you said Ayu didn't need a tie in to sell well. B'z single sales last year are comprable to Ayu's - in fact they only had one single last year and it just barely outsold Ayu's last year. So if Ayu's non tied in drama singles are considered selling well enough, then B'z sales as well should also be considered selling well enough is what I mean. :) But just like many artists that don't need a tie in to sell well, the tie in - if good - can make it sell a lot more. Don't know if how I just explained it made any sense though.

Yes I know and that was exactly what I was trying to say. They didn't sell just well with a tie-in, but extraordinary well :p - considering they were selling as much as Ayu in 2008 :) I wasn't trying to imply B'z wasn't selling well without tie-ins if thats what you meant :)

KarenPang 21st November 2009 01:53 PM

Both A-sides for B'z's Ichibu to Zenbu / DIVE single had really strong tie in's which contributed to the extraordinary sales which it obtained despite the fact that it was only sold in 1 edition

like Ichibu to Zenbu was used to promote Buzzer Beat while for DIVE , it was used to promote Suzuki's Swift compact car

MY LONELY TOWN was released in 2 editions but it's struggling to cross the 250K mark D:

maybe avex should ask Vermillion Records for advise to get better tie in's for ayumi

Aderianu 21st November 2009 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by truehappiness (Post 2162863)
After seeing some people at 2ch mention it, I wonder if they'll switch out the "Christmas card" extra for those who purchase it at mu-mo, since the switch to the 29th makes it completely useless, haha

In my country Christmas begins on January 7 ^^

njanjayrp 21st November 2009 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by LostHeaven (Post 2163083)
In my country Christmas begins on January 7 ^^

yeah, but that's only for us living in the Orthodox Christian countries, it's in December for the rest of the world and I doubt AVEX cares :P

maikaru 21st November 2009 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by SunshineSlayer (Post 2162828)
Same thing with the Tinkerbell movie, it's hard to say exactly in what capacity the song will be used. And once again, its not really an audience that is gonna go out and buy the cd (or even have the means to ^_^). Only if they beg their parents will they get the cd and even then, most children are more likely to beg their parents for a Tinkerbell doll or something I think. :)

there are many teenagers that really love Tinkerbell, and are really looking forward to the movie too, as weird as it could sound. It's a movie for children in America, but many people especially girls who are gyals, really really love tinkerbell, and will go to watch the movie about it.

anyways, they said that you were... is the song of the image of the movie, so I think it will be in new trailers and such. we should get the trailers soon.

behwatch 21st November 2009 03:12 PM

Hey I think the first press edition includes a free kisaeke keitai theme download.

Quote from mumo "きせかえジャケットカードA"

nanakopy87 21st November 2009 03:15 PM

i thought that one is confirm is a changeable cover?no?

behwatch 21st November 2009 03:48 PM

sorry my mistake for my poor japanese language. Its a changeable cover lol. I tot the word kisekae links to keitai only. Anyway haha this time the cover is really good and Both songs are used in movie and drama!

love in music 21st November 2009 04:57 PM

i want them to change her official site layout already. then we can get HQ pics of the covers and nobody will have to deal with seeing the HQ s/s pics on her website anymore

SunshineSlayer 21st November 2009 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by njanjayrp (Post 2163070)
Yes I know and that was exactly what I was trying to say. They didn't sell just well with a tie-in, but extraordinary well :p - considering they were selling as much as Ayu in 2008 :) I wasn't trying to imply B'z wasn't selling well without tie-ins if thats what you meant :)

^ Yeah, yeah that's what I meant. I interpreted your post as meaning that B'z sales were only good with tie ins.


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