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Bigtop 29th September 2010 04:53 AM

Well, Avex might recognize the record, but not Ayu, as she might still be busy...

adantatu2 29th September 2010 05:28 AM

Tomorrow (or today?) the first sales for L !!!
i hope really good sales !!!

rakeru 29th September 2010 05:35 AM

What a nice birthday present this should be, seeing L on top of the charts!

Bigtop 29th September 2010 05:54 AM

Any mid-day sales as of now?

chocopockymaster 29th September 2010 05:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Bigtop (Post 2503892)
Any mid-day sales as of now?

It hasn't even been an hour since stores opened. :rolleyes

chu-lips 29th September 2010 06:02 AM

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Originally Posted by chocopockymaster (Post 2503895)
It hasn't even been an hour since stores opened. :rolleyes

really i guesss it's 3 pm on japan right now....

AyuGAME 29th September 2010 06:11 AM

i hope L do a better job than crossroad, it's a better single IMO

Bigtop 29th September 2010 06:14 AM

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Originally Posted by chu-lips (Post 2503905)
really i guesss it's 3 pm on japan right now....

2:14 pm Japan time

chu-lips 29th September 2010 06:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Bigtop (Post 2503911)
2:14 pm Japan time

surely the shop already opened since they open in the morning,,,,

bluegie 29th September 2010 07:01 AM

we should have the mid day sales..
last time someone posted the early day sales (like 11am Japan time sales index) for MOON or You were...

ayumisrael 29th September 2010 12:07 PM

2nd Day
Position: #8
Sales: Up Later
Total Sales: Up Later

Still in top 10 !! ^^

2 Singles on top 10 XD

AyuGAME 29th September 2010 12:57 PM

^still at position 8?!?!
wow...so cool...i think L help crossroad too...

Andrenekoi 29th September 2010 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Ranma Matsuri (Post 2503824)
Yeah, maybe it's because I'm a child of the 90's but it's so weird to see these comments since most (if not all) people I know recognize Mariah for stuff like Hero, Always be my Baby, Vision of Love, Daydream, etc. lol Learn new something everyday, I really am getting old. :P

When it does come down to it, stuff like high sales and rankings really are just there for bragging rights because in the larger picture, do we really need stuff like Oricon and Billboard? Nothing about who's on top says anything about the quality of their music or their relevance in the industry. For older acts though, it can to some extent show their longevity in the industry like "hey we've been around for so-so years and this new act may be the hot thing right now but people still get hype whenever I release something yea". Not true for everyone though, acts like Madonna show their weight more on tour then on music charts but I feel I'm rambling now. lol I personally just think it's good fun and competitiveness and I like to brag about artists I like so to that extent stuff like rankings and streaks matter to me but just for artists I care about. /last thing she'll say on the topic XD

Well, I do find charts a valid way to know how well artists are doing, in the end of the day, sales reflects the impact of the song sometimes... But as Oricon charts only focus on physical sales, they miss some huge digital singles and sometimes a not very popular song reach #1 just cuz the artist has a strong fanbase... And it doesn't even need to be a very big one xD

*braging* About Madonna, she is not really having hits on north america, but as far as I know, she had at least 2 big hits everywhere else in the world on the 00's after Music: Hung up and 4 Minutes... and even in the USA those reach Platinum on downloads xD *fanboy mode off* Still, it's inevitable... at some point of the career, every artist and band will be active for so long general public will not be interested on their new music anymore... For great performers, this mean kicking everyone else butt on tours xD

Paparazzi 29th September 2010 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Nackar_91 (Post 2503574)
That is not wrong. I never said Japan has MORE young people.

It is simply a fact that the average age of the music buyer is YOUNGER than int he rest of the world. I can find numbers if you need them. The buyers are generally younger, more fickle, and are quicker to change their appetite. It's been looked into many times.

Most of America's sales come from Teenagers. In fact, a large chunk of them come from pre-teens as young as 11 and 12. The variable really doesn't change from U.S. to Japan all that much, so It's clearly something entirely different.

AyumiAi 29th September 2010 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Andrenekoi (Post 2503553)
Sorry, but on the same way I really doubt everyone knows every Mariah Carey song (considering she has 13 full albums), I doubt everyone can sing by heart, or even name all of her 18 #1 singles... A hardcore fan? Yeap... A casual listener? Unlikelly... Neither? Nops...

On the same way, I doubt anyone but hardcore fans (and maybe not even those) can name by heart all the singles Ayu has on her streak...

Honestly US and Canada 99% of the people know the lyrics to Most of Mariahs singles. I personally hate hate hate her (im not hating right now im just proving a point so dont kill me fans of mariah) but when a single of hers comes out or when her new album comes you just end up learning the lyrics because EVERYONE at school and on tv is singing her songs. I know most of her songs and yea maybe not every single album song, but yea most of her singles i know the lyrics pretty well, they are always played at clubs with remix and parties(especially her more sexy singles AKA Touch My Body) and her number one singles, are basically in everyones head for about an entire month after she releases them... Even someone like Kesha, who isnt half as popular as Mariah Carey everyone knows the lyrics to ehr singles Tick Tok, Blah Blah Blah, Your Love is My Drug, Take It Off, so if we casual listeners know her singles and their lyrics to someone not as popular as Mariah then i think yea im right. Or Lady Gaga EVERYONE in NA even Mexico (i travel alot between the 3 countires with family) knows 99% of her singles and lyrics to them.
Not only die hard fans
Ps. Im not mad or angry at u at all, im just trying to show my side of things sorry if it comes across as that. :P

Andrenekoi 29th September 2010 11:37 PM

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Originally Posted by AyumiAi (Post 2504754)
Honestly US and Canada 99% of the people know the lyrics to Most of Mariahs singles. I personally hate hate hate her (im not hating right now im just proving a point so dont kill me fans of mariah) but when a single of hers comes out or when her new album comes you just end up learning the lyrics because EVERYONE at school and on tv is singing her songs. I know most of her songs and yea maybe not every single album song, but yea most of her singles i know the lyrics pretty well, they are always played at clubs with remix and parties(especially her more sexy singles AKA Touch My Body) and her number one singles, are basically in everyones head for about an entire month after she releases them... Even someone like Kesha, who isnt half as popular as Mariah Carey everyone knows the lyrics to ehr singles Tick Tok, Blah Blah Blah, Your Love is My Drug, Take It Off, so if we casual listeners know her singles and their lyrics to someone not as popular as Mariah then i think yea im right. Or Lady Gaga EVERYONE in NA even Mexico (i travel alot between the 3 countires with family) knows 99% of her singles and lyrics to them.
Not only die hard fans
Ps. Im not mad or angry at u at all, im just trying to show my side of things sorry if it comes across as that. :P

Relax^^

adantatu2 30th September 2010 12:23 AM

Plz stop with Mariah, i don't care Mariah Carey!!!!!

crossroad in the top 10, that's great !!!

ayumisrael 30th September 2010 11:34 AM

3rd Day
Position: #7
Sales: Up Later
Total Sales: Up Later

joshohhhhh 30th September 2010 11:53 AM

thank you! :D glad to see it rise in position. did we ever find out the sales from yesterday?

ayumisrael 30th September 2010 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by joshohhhhh (Post 2505439)
thank you! :D glad to see it rise in position. did we ever find out the sales from yesterday?

Well. natsu style didn't update (maybe yet). ^^


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